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Unlikely they would have seperate facilities for VIP in a aircraft the size of MI-17, but I could be wrong

Expect Indian media in next hours or days to go over the Augusta scandal for new VIP choppers again. Basically they were being bribed to buy AW101, ordered a few, shelved the order and were told to make do with MI-17s for VIP transport. Very indicative that Pak Army and AF no longer use MI-17s...

True, I suspect they are awaiting official declaration of deaths, but a simple look at the pictures indicates it would be a miracle if anyone survived, none of the airframe seems intact. Its all tiny burnt out bits, indicative of a major impact and explosion, but I am no expert on this.

They wont be able to blame Pak, it would mean we can shoot down MI-17s all the way in Tamil Nadu or we have infiltrated the IAF Unit that services it's VIP Choppers. India will never admit to either of these, even in order to make a false flag.

Scenes look bad, I suspect the "badly injured" may be dead they just cannot confirm officially.

You started by asking a question that you then proceeded to answer yourself (with perhaps little knowledge of facts) and bemoan the state of the PN and how we maybe at the mercy of IN. Well last time that happened we still have a video of a Sub. My sense of smell is very accurate.

Can smell a troll from miles away....

Couple of points 1) This order (if the planes are made in France) means any IAF follow on order may take 4-5 years to fufil 2) These jets will not be delivered for another 3-4 years, UAE will slowly start phasing out Mirage 2000-9 then, but this technology may be old hat by then (no AI, no AESA...

I think for ships already we are getting decent equipment from Turkey/China, amd Jinnah class will keep us occupied here. Nothing significant the Italians can provide that Turkey and China cannot in terms of hulls. Where Italy excels is Helciopters, missiles, electronics and radars. Basically...

Think this is his second or third visit, maybe here to inaugrate new navy choppers like AW139>

IAF MI-17 Chopper crashed/shot down just now.

Exactly, great move. Most Indian and Pak standard troops will find it hard to tell the difference between friend and foe and if IFF fails then it can come down to visual ID. In past wars both IAF and PAF have lost aircraft due to friendly ground fire. This shows the high level of training we are...

Every other Navy has old ships and new choppers, PN has new ships and old choppers!

Nice post mate. Personally I am unsure if the US will totally give up any leverage over Pak Mil by doing this. As we know Sea Sultans will fully replace P-3Cs AH-1s are on the way out via Chinese/Turkish/Russian solution F-16s then gone in 10-15 years. So for for the first time in around 60...

I'm not so sure, does seem US is still enabling F-16 support contracts as recently as last week and last month https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/2824774/ https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/2786993/ Also more Sniper pods on the way. I would think...

Yup, and American power is in relative rapid decline. India may end up paying the price of this, in many ways it already is

Yup, Russia will be loving this, gets to sell S-400 to India and now everyone will demand a waiver. Turks will be able to point out the hypocrisy and US seen as toothless.

I guess getting knocked out of T20 WC means they will have more time on their hands to post more BS on here....

Either way is a win for the rest of the world. If India fail to get waiver then happy days, if US gives waiver it is basically admitting the CAATSA sanctions are total BS and gets (yet another) blow to US credibility.

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