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I do not think the game is simple, in fact if you read Indian reports during Feb 27th they had half their Navy running around hunting a single Pak Agosta. That is how the game is played, make them use a massive amount of resources to hunt for a small number of subs. What you are advocating is...

You do not need long range strike to do that. Subs are much better suited for diverting IN assets, PN knows this hence the heavy investment in AIP subs.

Yes ur rit lets all use text spk! Laterz.

Have to say, failing to keep a pro Indian Afghan Government in power is the biggest failure of Indian power and diplomacy in the last 20 years. They has 12 "consulates" at one point, invested billions, trained many Afghan officers and had US/NATO security umbrella for 20 years and now are...

Rather then be condescending you may want to point out what part of your post I may not of read. This will help the debate, and incidentally help you in life in general, as well as maybe getting rid of the text speak. Thanks

Indians seem to think Talib memories of their support for Northern Alliance are very short.....

Chance to grab around 12 C-130J for very low price as RAF are retiring them, but we will need US permission

The upgrade to the P-3Cs was carried out around 2005-2007 time. About 15 years ago. You contradict yourself when you say the P-8 has an edge over them yet did not detect our subs. This was due to PN operating the P-3C for 20 years, and IN being very new to the P-8 (as you state) The upgrade was...

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????? Qatari Army is 40,000 men

I find this very hard to believe. In just a couple of years we may well be the only P-3C operator in the world. Every US ally is or will replace them with P-8. Operators like Chile, Argentina may flog them to say 2030 max, but beyond that airframe life and spares will be a big issue. Sub...

Never gonna happen. Full stop. The jet is massively underpowered, to ask a Jag with the Adour engine to fly with a bomb load in summer conditions is impossible, so forget hanging on BVR missiles to it. Also the airframe was never designed for air combat.

That would involove replacing almost every single systems on a Chinese made and equipped ship with complete Western systems. May as well just buy new hulls.

Nigeria operates quite a few MI-24s, this is probably for basic training though as they lack training helicopters. Probably no space at Pak Army Helicopter training school

Amazing to think in 2-3 years these F-22Ps will be very much second line ships for PN....

PN will have a much bigger sub and MPA fleet then both the Turks and the Egyptians, almost same size as Indian Navy.

If the 5th boat is followed by another 3 of the same design this will give PN the following fleet in 5-6 years 4 Type 054 4 MILGEM 4 Jinnah class 4 F-22P 2 Yarmook 8 Hangor subs 3 Upgraded A90B subs 10 Seat Sultan MPAs 4 ATR MPAs That is probably the most powerful Navy in the Indian Ocean...

No, the whole post and thread is misleading news. Pakistan is on a Tier 2 watch list, the original article implies it will be sanctioned.

Never the most capable jet, but for a long time gave us numbers and in the 2002 confrontation kept IAF at bay. Played no part in Feb 27th but I will miss this plane. For me it epitomised everything about PAF, making the best of limited resources. Do not forget these men and these machines, they...

Nice tank, actually quite good. Shame it will never enter widespread Indian service and now IA have put a tendor out for Future Armoured tank. Nice pictures though.

Smells like another order for the Yarmook class coming up....