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So two Block 2s for flying (with one as backup) and a Block 3 for static display?

Pilots have no say in what they get to fly. No more block 3s due to funding. You have to budget for their construction from what revenue the govt gets. J-10s are on loan payments and tomorrow's problem. But you won't see many more of those either for a while

A very informative video for anyone interested

Because they can't pin it on PTI and Imran Khan

The blanket hatred I see on this thread by some members is the same as hatred amongst Israeli Jews against Palestinians. Quite an embarrassment for any Pakistani Muslim with an iota of regard for humanity and dignity. Many Pakistanis are going to be on the same page when it comes to...

Unbelievable how easy it is to get you all bickering at each other. Simple misdirection from the army and you all fall for it. On a personal note, kicking out refugees before the onset of winter is deplorable.

Wonder what the three aircraft they destroyed were.

Looks like Pakistanis out of their love for their army under a chutiya chief martyred 18 or so soldiers in Balochistan but somehow were thwarted doing the same to PAF. How much of the population will have this brewing hate increase against the army, only time will tell but it will not be...

They would be spotted on their way to Pakistan which means most have not been delivered

Exactly, so all this talk about Turkish engine tech being great and of a Western standard is too soon to comment about.

What's the MTBO for the said Turkish turbofans?

Might is their right. It's how it works

chadar dekh kar payr philanay chahiyan. Pockets are empty so most like none after the 20 we have for some time.

Poorer (in comparison, not poor) engine tech mean longer fighters ... one can see that in Chinese jets as well. As they mature, engine sizes will come down along with fighter lengths.

Easy, dont believe the 180km claim

Not need to get excited. It will turn out to be a licensed production of SD-10. That much we should know by now if history is our guide

Don't need dual seat jets for training anymore. You see any F-22s or F-35s with dual seats? By now the tech is advanced enough to allow proficiency in sims before ever getting into a cockpit. Dual seaters can use however b used for other specialized roles. PAF did just fine with no JF-17B for...

Yes but can only be used in a very limited number of their block 30 aircraft, and most of their fleet in block 40/50.

Not entirely true re Mig-29 vs F-16s. Nato users learned how to negate its effectiveness by learning the weaknesses of those early gen migs. Of course early on it takes practice to go against a new weapon system. Practice makes perfect in this case. Makes you wonder why Russia never got a red...

Why the different grays used in J-10 & JF-17 vs other PAF fighters? If this smog filled shot is any indication, the darker schemes blend in better