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    Putin: Russia 'Working on' Dalai Lama Visit

    It is my private opinion based on the history of Tibet. It was a country. But Tibet had been integrated into China since 1950 or 1951 when the Chinese army defeated the Tibetan army. Chinese army is much more stronger than 1950 and there is no Tibetan army. China has no reason to fear Dalai Lama.
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    I am very sorry if I hurt you or others. However, I am not the one to bring up the problem of Manchu. I will not continue to dicuss about it.
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    I think it is more clear with provinces belonging to than ''Directly''. I did not hear province directly before. The Manchu state was founded in the early 17th century. If the Qing empirors did not integrate it into China, it was still a state. That's why I said that Qing empirors did not...
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    Is the following explaination right or wrong? "直省" is the map of all provinces belonging to the empire and is the full map. The misssing parts in comparison to others or the full map of China now a days are only due to the fact that the Qing empire did not consider them as the...
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    Putin: Russia 'Working on' Dalai Lama Visit

    Tibet was an independent country. It is nothing wrong if someone especially for the old leader tries to get the indepence for his country. Dalai Lama is not the official leader of Tibet any more, Chinese govement just considers the visit as a normal visit of a normal person and does not need to...
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    I guess they did not get your idea of ''full map'', neither did I. For me, the map of all provinces belonging to the empire is a full map. The misssing parts in comparison to others or the full map of China now a days are only due to the fact that the Qing empire did not consider them as the...
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    South China Sea Forum

    1. The historical evidence of China your posted is only for fun. As one Vietnamese guy said Discovery (but do nothing with sovereignty) -> Fishing (but do nothing with sovereignty) -> Someone passed there (but do nothing with sovereignty). The Chinese map 1904 is a very strong evidence to show...
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    The name of the map was all provinces belonging to the empire i.e. Manchu empire. Am I right?
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    Just looking at the link I gave you, then you will understand of the Manchukuo. I use the history of Manchukuo to give the explaination for the name of the map.
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    Manchukuo was a country anyway and has its own history. Due to the divison, the name of the map was all provinces belonging to the Manchu empire or we can say the Han-Chinese.
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    It is not. Simply, 直省 is belonged provinces. Manchukuo was a country of Manchus from Manchuria. According to Wiki The Qing Dynasty, which replaced the Shun and Ming dynasties in China, was founded by Manchus from Manchuria (modern Northeastern China). However, the Manchu emperors...
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    Yes, it is very related. You can look again at the history of Manchukuo. Manchukuo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    直省 is 直省. It is not 中原. you can blame your ancestor since they did not write 中原 to the map. They were honest. You should not betray your ancestor.
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    As I understand, the map was named the map of all provinces belonging to the empire. The main reason is the Qing Dynasty, which replaced the Shun and Ming dynasties in China, was founded by Manchus from Manchuria (modern Northeastern China). However, the Manchu emperors did not fully integrate...
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    This means you did not know or did not hear the international conferences or workshops about the south china sea. For example First International Workshop
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    I only suppose that a national map is a strong evidence of the sovereignty of that country. If you look at the map 1904, it clearly shows that Hainan island belongs to China. Or do you mean although Hainan island was in the national map of China, it belonged to Vietnam or Philippine?
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    Grab is grab. However, your explaination for China's grab is quite interesting. Imagine one simple situation, you spend a night at your neiborgh's house, and then you rob the house because you want to continue to sleep there. For me, it is not reasonable but it may be reasonable for the brave...
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    I understand what you mean. However, we have a map (original document) here and are dicussing about it. Let your doubts about Vietnamese's sovereignty since 16th century in another topic.
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    I am not sure that I am right. So I only asked you if you agree with my conclusion. If you say that the Chinese maps shown here are toilet papers, then I am wrong.
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    1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratly not Chinese territory

    Your comment about ''All lands under sky ... '' is so funny, at least for me. If you have any map, please upload it. It brings knowledge to all of us. It is not nice to Vietnamese with such a comment. Do you admit that China robbed the islands from Vietnam?
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