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F-16 we see today is the result of hard work of 40 years compared to that jf-17 is just a little boy. Give thunder a decade or a half more and you'll see wonders happening with it.

They might have been handed over if not 5 may b a couple of them. The airforce breaks the news when the have enough planes to equip a squadron and while they are inducting them.

You certainly cannot compare China with India, China is in different league. Similarly we cannot compare JF-17 with J-20, JF-17 is a 4th gen plane and J-20 5th. Well i am not saying that i am an expert in these matters but to me 2016 looks way too early.

I agree J-20 will be a big milestone but 2017-2019 is the planned date and J-20 will face delays, may be 2025 but nothing could be said for sure. Enemy of your enemy is your friend. USA never attacked Soviet Union but always helped countries that were fighting against Soviet Union directly or...

China wants to do it but it wont be that easy. Any such actions will pull US in and thats when things will get ugly.

PAF should have got J-10s by now but it looks like we left it so that the funds could be used in thunder program. Moreover if things goes smoothly and economy improves we might see the features of J-10 in block-3 of the thunder or even an upgraded block 2 that has AESA, more powerfull variant of...

First of all China and Israel will never fight a war they are on pretty good terms and Israelis often lend a hand in chinese defence projects. Even J-10 is very close to IAI Lavi and some people say J-10 is a further development of cancelled Lavi project. Secondly if we talk about the quality...

Any idea when would JF-17 get chinese engine. Thunder with chinese engine would be good news.

Can anyone tell why does overhauling an MKI costs 1/3 of its price? Thats too much isn't it?

Su-30 is claimed to be the best fighter and a nightmare for paf and yet has problems like automatic seat ejections. Either iaf should improve their training or declare Su-30 as a tiger on paper.

If there is nothing to worry then why did your parliamentary panel stated "With regard to the existing squadron strength, we are down to 25 squadrons today while Pakistan Air Force has 26 squadrons of operational combat fleet," they said PAF where as they could have said PLAAF as well. And then...

Every thing goes according to plan and after 5 years IAF will have its first 5th gen fighter, first of all that would never happen even F-35 program has seen delays and so would PAKFA. Even if there are no delays don't you think IAF would at least need 10 years from to getting first PAKFA and...

Any news about the subs deal with china?

I don't understand why indians think in order to counter IAF PAF needs to be having same number of aircrafts if not more. PAF can counter IAF even if IAF has twice as many squadrons because India can never use all its force against Pakistan because it has to keep an eye on dragon as well...

I totally agree with you that 2nd hand F-16 are our best option, PAF should sweep all the 2nd hand F-16 they can find either from USA, Turkey or any other country that is ready to sell them.This would not only fill the gaps but provide JFT the time to mature. However as far as Russia is...

JF-17 is a very potent fighter but the reality is that it has to go a long way before it becomes something like F-16. F-16 is possibly the best fighter ever built, it is still the bench mark against which every aircraft is measured. JF-17 can definitely become something like F-16 but that would...

Can you please tell the other 2 locations apart from PAC Kamra where thunders will be built? Don't you think 75% capability of block 52 is a bit more to expect from block 2 of thunder? Lastly more MLUed F-16 are possible but block 52, Mig-35 and Su-37 is never gonna happen.

When will PAF get the first JF-17 block 2? I heard first 5 will be delivered by the end of the year i.e, 2014.

F F-16 C/D block 52 is bvr capable and JF-17 block 2 will be.

Saudi equipment and Pakistani training if these 2 get together i don't think Israel stands a chance.