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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    Kasrkin, I thought you had been given an answer by JK, but I guess you are now trying to distinguish between what is alleged and what is proved. In my view, that is a side issue to the main point which is respect for the law by the public as well as those who are responsible to uphold the law...
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    Salim, It seems to me that this discussion is pointless. Clearly you believe in another form of logic in which 1 + 1 does not equal 2 because of your perceived shades of gray. In one breath you are saying you believe that the rule of law and that checks and balances should never be...
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    Osama Bin Laden's Son Calls for the Destruction of USA, U.K.

    HAHAHA.....LOL.... What a bunch of liars and how stupid people must be to believe this nonsense. And who have replaced Zawahiri in this fictitious gang as the lieutenants? Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy?
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    That is quite a disingenuous response. Clearly you are contradicting yourself and justifying it by saying "Life or any issue cannot be either black or white. It is in shades of grey." Dude...its pretty simple....you are either for the rule of law in ALL circumstances, or you believe that the...
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    Thank you AG, that is exactly what I was trying to do; make a few points that applied regardless of whether we're talking about a non-ideological vs ideological ("theocratic") state. The point was that the rule of law, openness, transparency and checks and balances must remain in place...
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    1 & 2. Salim, let us please leave the subject of religion aside from our discussion of the law for the time being. Since you agree that the law should not be abandoned, that it is meant for the guilty, and to regulate their punishments........then you must agree that kidnapping people, murdering...
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    Salim, There are such deep contradictions in your statements and the values that you are professing to believe in just in those few posts of yours. However, I think the discussion of these issues, secularism, and the Khilafat are not the point of this thread which is based more on our current...
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    I will respond to your question with the obvious answer, but I think I'll wait until you've responded to the points that I have raised since the answers to your question lay there.
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    Really Mustafa? You are going to take an enormously complex event such as the War between Iraq and Iran and reduce that to the imaginary cause and affect that you just described. Do you really feel that in those two lines above you have proved a conclusive relationship between secularism and...
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    Niaz, The way you are seeing it is extreme in my view. You seem to be seeing a "Shock and Awe" policy on one side and a totally do nothing on the other. You do realize that between those two insane extremes is a world of reality that includes all the things that we've been discussing on this...
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    You asked for a debate...but in my view a discussion, debate, or exchange of ideas usually only works when there are some common sense principles involved. For example, I have already provided my solution but I will repeat a part of what I wrote to re-answer your question..but my answer to your...
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    Baloch Assembly protests against dam project endangering a Hindu temple

    The temple is actually literally a 6' x 10' semi-constructed room which could very easily be lifted up without much expense at all and moved anywhere that is acceptable. I've been camping to that area so many times and I will miss the valley as a natural beauty and a national park....we are...
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    Salim, I find that your reasons for there is not a civil war are more along the philosophical lines of 'why there should not be a civil war in Pakistan' and there is a difference between the two. One is what is actually happening and the other is an idea of why it should not be happening...
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    Although it sounds like you are repeatedly questioning my motives, I will attribute that to miscommunication. No offense taken. I also think there has been further miscommunication....you seem to have missed the point entirely. If I was to sum what I wrote into a few words, these are it...
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    Official: ISI Fan Club

    I did say that this group controlled Bollywood until the last decade so there is no inaccuracy in my information, you are in fact agreeing that that was the case until a decade ago. Much of the finance for movies came from these guys, so I don't know if you call owning something controlling it...
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    Official: ISI Fan Club

    My dear, you can laugh it off if you wish...but a fact is still a fact. Out of 10 names I can think of from just the top of my head, here is one; Dawood Ibrahim. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the scene, but Sanjay Dutt, Dilip Kumar, Rekha and pretty much anyone who was anyone in...
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    Meeting Pakistan's most feared militant

    I've provided my response in the form of a new thread title 'Selling Civil War to Pakistan'.
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    Ermmm...its actually a post, not an article and I wrote it...so this is the link. And thank you btw.
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    The world was laughing at the Americans when they were changing the name of French Fries to Freedom Fries. Can you believe their Congress actually met and passed a resolution to this effect?! This is while the President who ran on promises of health care, and Congress, didn’t even bother to hold...
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    Career in the ISI

    I'm a nobody who means absolutely nothing. Thank God! You wouldn't find me in their movie collection.
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