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    Treason to work against Pakistani nuke program?

    Apologies, I meant Vanunu rather than Pollard. Regarding the laws...I'm inquiring as to whether anyone here knows of any such laws that would apply to the situation in Pakistan. For example, if some academic was broadcasting to the world the location of our nukes and the details of our...
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    Treason to work against Pakistani nuke program?

    Dont you think that the approach you outlined assumes that everyone will be clearly aware of who the implant is and who isn't? let's suppose that we're talking about an eminent professor who regularly writes in major newspapers and has a certain level of acceptability among some people. Let us...
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    Treason to work against Pakistani nuke program?

    Salaam Everyone, Its been a long time since I've visited this site. I was thinking about the idea of having some laws in place that would make it illegal to work against the nuclear program of the country. Since I dont know much about the subject, I thought the most appropriate forum would be...
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    Pakistani side has used suicide bombers (indirectly and directly) as strategic depth Afghanistan and Kashmir. We all supported Taliban and Al Qaeda when they served the purpose that we wanted from them. The US supports Jundallah to carry out operations against Iran. India has its own vested...
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    What do Pakistanis have in common?

    You are just one example and are unrepresentative of Pakistani in this way. All you need to do is take a look at the demographics of our cities and I think that constitutes much stronger proof than your anecdotal evidence. And being Pakistani cannot be the answer to the question, "What do...
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    What do Pakistanis have in common?

    Most people in Pakistan do not speak Urdu.
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    What is Salafism? (the Wahabi myth)

    What are you saying...that the way some oor and uneducated person practices his religion to the best of his knowledge should be used by you to judge Islam? Thats not whats being discussed here and you keep wanting to do this because you want an opportunity to throw mud. Why don't you start a...
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    Mainstream media and first responders on the day of 9/11 - PROOFS!

    The alleged hijackers are still alive. They have been on TV, they have been in the news...I dont know what else you want. BBC and Telegraph are two mainstream western media sources and they have reported these truths. You seem to be suggesting that they should be on every day in order for it to...
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    Mainstream media and first responders on the day of 9/11 - PROOFS!

    And one from the telegraph....of course.....STOLEN IDENTITIES....why not?...it fits the official story....but did they recant the story of the 19 hijackers and tell the world that the story isn't exactly like that anymore? They still refer to them as the 19 Saudi hijackers. So if these guys are...
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    Mainstream media and first responders on the day of 9/11 - PROOFS!

    This one is from BBC. Please tell me what you think of this. Also...please note that FBI Director Mullen even admits the identity of the hijackers was thrown into doubt way back in 2001. BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Hijack 'suspects' alive and well Hijack 'suspects' alive and well Waleed...
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    What is Salafism? (the Wahabi myth)

    People who are Salafis don't call themselves that. Nor do they call themselves Wahabis...in fact...that is deemed rather insulting to be named after a person. The reason a label is frowned upon is because we consider ourselves Muslim and not this or that. Some words that are often used to...
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    If that's the way you're gonna spin this then one could also say that India and Africa have a monopoly on poverty because of the sheer number of people that live in both places combined as a percentage of the total. Similarly, because India is home to over 180 million Dalits....although the...
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    What do Pakistanis have in common?

    Karachi is pretty much the only cosmopolitan city in Pakistan with Islamabad possibly being an exception. Karachi is the only city in which you have all the people of Pakistan in large numbers so lets take a look at it: 1. Banaris is where Pathans live 2. Korangi is where Muhajirs live 3. Lyari...
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    What is Salafism? (the Wahabi myth)

    I dont understand what you are trying to prove. You and Salim keep showing up on threads related to Islam to throw in Red Herring arguments or to quote extremist groups to throw in controversy into these discussions. On top of that, you already said on this thread that you will not respond to me...
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    Every side uses suicide bombers...nobody has the monopoly on the use of them as you seem to be suggesting. Indians use them, as do Sri Lankans, as do hard line Islamic groups, as do agencies that seek to create instability. It is a leap of logic to say that because it was a suicide bombing, it...
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    Selling a civil war to Pakistan

    This is essentially what I'm saying in my 'Selling a civil war to Pakistan' thread...but surprisingly many people are falling into the trap and handing blank checks to the government to go into 'Secret Overdrive Mode' in this whole War on Terror nonsense. I don't doubt that foreign interests are...
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    Secular India is a myth

    Wow....what a leap. So you say that it is ok to burn the Quran and that those who are offended by that are the extremists and murderers? But I do remember you making some pretty strong statements about mosques that preach hatred, and banning them for making political statements or preaching...
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    What is Salafism? (the Wahabi myth)

    I feel sorry for the mods too....some subjects just attract all the haters. Saudi Arabia is not what Salafiism is meant to be, neither was the Taliban, neither is Pakistan. Again, it is something that we aspire to and we hope to establish somewhere in the world where it will gain mass...
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    What is Salafism? (the Wahabi myth)

    Salim, Lets ask you this. If you put up a thread to discuss the misconceptions of Hinduism on an Indian site and a Muslim from Pakistan comes to that site and posts something that says, "The deviousness of the Hindus" and the rest of what you said except replacing Salafi or Islam with...
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    What do Pakistanis have in common?

    I think this is more of an elite/upper middle class society point of view...its not true at all for the masses. Most people in Pakistan marry within their own ethnic groups and its considered rather scandalous for it to be otherwise among the lower classes. Nationalism isn't going to work...
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