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Why China Didn’t Invent ChatGPT

We’re are creating our own obsoletion with AI. Students are now completing their degrees with chatgpt. It will create a generation of dummies for societies that end up depending on this.

It's just a new level of dummies. Most people don't even know how a toaster works. Being oblivious and stupid these days is nothing new.

This has been shown in numerous scifi stories where the people in a society hit some level where they basically don't even remember how to eat.
 
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Just a few years ago, China was on track to challenge United States dominance in artificial intelligence. The balance of power was tilting in China’s direction because it had abundant data, hungry entrepreneurs, skilled scientists and supportive policies. The country led the world in patent filings related to artificial intelligence.

Today, much has changed. Microsoft — an icon of American technology — helped the start-up OpenAI usher its experimental chatbot, ChatGPT, into the world. And China’s tech entrepreneurs are shocked and demoralized. It has dawned on many of them that despite the hype, China lags far behind in artificial intelligence and tech innovation.

“Why ChatGPT wasn’t invented in China?” they asked. “How big is the ChatGPT gap between China and the U.S.?” and “The Chinese equivalentof ChatGPT? Don’t take it too seriously.”

They’re also asking more fundamental questions about the country’s innovation environment: Have censorship, geopolitical tensions and the government’s growing control of the private sector made China less friendly to innovation?

“The development of any significant technological product is inseparable from the system and environment in which it operates,” said Xu Chenggang, a senior research scholar at the Stanford Center on China’s Economy and Institutions. He cited TikTok’s Chinese-language sister app Douyin as the sort of innovation that Chinese companies might be unable to achieve in the future because of government limitations on the industry. “Once the open environment is gone, it will be challenging to create such products,” he said.

If a decade ago China was the wild, wild East for tech entrepreneurship and innovation, it’s a very different country now.

Starting in the 1990s all of the country’s biggest tech companies were private enterprises funded with foreign money. The government mostly left the industry alone because it didn’t understand the internet and didn’t expect it to become so powerful.

By the mid-2010s, China had become a tech power that could rival the United States. Its top internet companies were worth about the same in the markets as their American counterparts. Many of the Chinese companies’ products, like the messaging app WeChat and the payment service Alipay, worked better than similar American mobile internet products. Venture capital flooded in from all over the world. For a while the country was producing as many unicorns, or start-ups valued at more than $1 billion, as Silicon Valley.

All of that changed over the past few years as Beijing went after some of the country’s biggest tech companies and its most high-profile tech entrepreneurs. The aim was to ensure no institution or individual could wield influence on the Chinese society comparable to the Communist Party. The government took minority stakes and board seats in some of those companies, giving it effective control.

Along the way, Beijing tamed the industry’s ambition and blunted its innovative edge.

But tech companies and investors also have themselves to blame for falling behind their Silicon Valley counterparts. Even before the government started to impose a stronger hand on them, Chinese tech leaders were laser focused on making money and reluctant to spend on research projects that weren’t likely to yield revenue in the short term. After the government’s onslaught in the past few years, executives are even less inclined to invest in long-term ventures.

In 2021, the United States led the world in total private investment in artificial intelligence and in the number of newly funded A.I. companies, which was three and two times higher than in China, according to Stanford University’s A.I. Index 2022 Annual Report.

But the government has been the biggest barrier to A.I. — its obsession with censorship perhaps its heaviest club. The availability of a wide range of data is crucial to developing technology like ChatGPT, and that is increasingly harder to come by in a censored online environment.

Today, jokes circulate that capture the dark mood among tech people. A popular one: “We need to teach machines not only how to speak, but also how not to speak.”

Beijing has punished companies, sometimes severely, to enforce its censorship protocols. Duolingo, which is in the seemingly noncontroversial business of teaching people new languages, was taken out of Chinese app stores for nearly a year to “enhance its content regulation,” according to Chinese media reports.

“Many of us in the internet industry are faced with two problems when making a product: Either our products don’t involve speech, or they have to undergo a lot of censorship,” said Hao Peiqiang, a former entrepreneur and programmer based in the northern city of Tianjin. “Big companies can afford it, but smaller companies can’t,” he said. “If small companies can’t do this, it stifles innovation.”

OpenAI, which has developed ChatGPT with the help of Microsoft’s money, hasn’t made the tool available in China. Mainland Chinese users need to use virtual private networks, or VPNs, to access it.

The artificial intelligence gap with the United States is expected to keep widening, according to China experts and investors. One factor will be Chinese companies’ access to algorithms, the rules that A.I. tools follow to make language. Many of them aren’t publicly available, so it will take time for Chinese companies to develop them.

The other factor is computing power: Some people in the sector worry that the U.S. government could impose export bans on key chips it has not already banned to slow China’s development in A.I. tools like ChatGPT.

For years China bragged that it filed more patent and artificial intelligence patent applications than the United States. But the average number of citations of its A.I. patents — an indication of the originality and importance of its inventions — lagged the United States and many other developed countries between 2020 and 2021, according to the China A.I. index from Mr. Xu’s team.

If China’s tech industry used to be driven by private enterprises and private venture funding, the government is increasingly guiding not only how money is invested but also which technology gets the money. It wants to ensure that important research projects conform with the country’s goal of becoming self-reliant in tech.

“China’s policymakers are seeking to systematically address and integrate every step of the innovation process,” the Mercator Institute for China Studies in Berlin wrote in a research paper.

On Monday, Beijing’s municipal government pledged support for big tech companies developing large language models to compete with ChatGPT. Social media comments on the news were largely sarcastic. “Time to grab the government subsidies again,” one Weibo user wrote.

The Chinese government has spent a lot on funding artificial intelligence research, with unclear results. The Beijing Academy of Artificial Intelligence, established in 2018, introduced a ChatGPT-like product two years ago called “Wu Dao,” describing it as “China’s first and the world’s largest” A.I. language model. But it never really caught on.

The Communist Party’s influence is imprinted on the industry. The central government set up the Pengcheng Laboratory, which has taken the lead on improving China’s nationwide computing infrastructure. On the lab’s home page, its events include a session for its 400-plus Communist Party members to study the spirit of the 20th Party Congress. An item seeking to hire two midlevel official lists as its first requirement “possessing high ideological and political qualities and adhering to the guidance of Xi Jinping’s new era of socialism with Chinese characteristics.”

For Mr. Xu, the Stanford researcher, this feels like déjà vu. In 1986, he analyzed why the Soviet Union and China lagged the United States and Japan in developing computers. It was clear to him even then that innovation took place when people could pursue their interests and think freely.

He says that China could end up as a cautionary lesson in how central control stifles growth and tech innovation, just as happened in the old Soviet Union.

“Historical examples tell us that national mobilization cannot catch up with freewheeling development that comes naturally on its own,” he said.


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Let’s shift from statistics to the politics of Xi Jinping, leader for life. In the late 1970s, Deng Xiaoping had invented “Sinocapitalism,” triggering stunning growth. The party loosened its heavy grip in favor of cultural freedom and entrepreneurial autonomy, the unwritten motto being, “enrich yourselves, but leave the driving to us!”

Deng thought that growing wealth would keep the masses in line. Under Xi, hogging the wheel ever more tightly beats the national weal. Unleashed capitalism is yielding to a perfect surveillance state that demands obedience and denies initiative. The private sector is shrinking in favor of lavishly funded state-owned enterprises (SOE), which add less value than private firms, stifling efficiency and innovation. So, the puzzle: Why would Xi strangle the golden goose?

Since Lenin, Western sages—think George Bernard Shaw or Jean-Paul Sartre—have fallen for what I call “modernitarianism” as the fastest path to development. The state, they believed, was better than the market, delivering both wealth and equality. They kept missing the point. In the clash between power and profit, power wins. Even assuming that Xi’s henchmen had told him the truth about “zero-COVID” as an economy killer, why would a despot care? When reality knocks, control comes first, suppressing real-time feedback. Until very recently, Beijing methodically suppressed the horrifying COVID data.

Vladimir Putin keeps pillaging Ukraine, and never mind his sinking economy. His underlings will not risk their careers by confronting him with the bad news on and off the battlefield. In the sloppy, anarchic West, corrective feedback is built-in, and free markets don’t lie—they are the best information systems governments have. It is an iron law: The more concentrated the power, the less nations can adapt to economic ruptures. Five-year plans don’t allow for speedy revision.

Democracies cannot squelch dissent; that is their enduring advantage over the authoritarians. In crisis, strongmen invariably resort to suppression, which is good for them but bad for the economy. Repression does not increase returns, as the experience of all autocrats shows, most recently in Venezuela, Iran, and Russia. Xi’s China is looking at a similar fate. When power rules, growth falters.

The prophets who keep announcing the decline of the West and rise of the rest should recall Yogi Berra, who once quipped: “It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” As to China, a slightly amended Yogism would be right on target: Its “future ain’t what it used to be.” Diviners beware. Leave prophecy to the Isaiahs and Jeremiahs.

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Essays are BS.
Students still have to pass final exams with no accessibility to any computer.
Are research papers and scientific journals BS too? You’re in such denial. We are building the replacement for human intellect and you choose to be blind to it.

It's just a new level of dummies. Most people don't even know how a toaster works. Being oblivious and stupid these days is nothing new.

This all been shown in numerous scifi stories where the people in a society hit some level where they basically don't even remember how to eat.
So Wall-E is our future, that sounds so great.
 
Today, jokes circulate that capture the dark mood among tech people. A popular one: “We need to teach machines not only how to speak, but also how not to speak.”

On a side note:

If they are able to make it to know how to toe with the party lines, then it means it is smart enough to know how to survive.

Probably this will come at the cost of creativity (art cannot be conformist) and innovation, though.
 
Are research papers and scientific journals BS too? You’re in such denial. We are building the replacement for human intellect and you choose to be blind to it.
I don't view it that way. I view it as a tool, not replacement.
As I said, people said the same on the internet, even though it was the catalyst for scientific advancement. AI is just another catalyst.
 
So Wall-E is our future, that sounds so great.

So Wall-E is an example of a society where everybody has collectively put their fate into the hands of their leadership to determine the "common good". So the leadership has done a great job. They are all equal. The society is modern, efficient, and happy. Tech that it finds positive it hands to the citizens and stuff that would be negative it quietly discards.

Unfortunately the more basic survival knowledge you hand off to the leadership the more like sedate sheep the people become. The people of this society barely know how to do anything...like even walk...and the same status will continue from generation to generation to generation to generation.

But I suppose if the mechanism is working and the people are 100% happy with the leadership can you actually criticize anything. That's debatable.



You can then contrast that with futures where people aren't handing their lives over to the leadership and basically relying on survival skills in societies where everything is changing for the good or bad.
 
So Wall-E is an example of a society where everybody has collectively put their fate into the hands of their leadership to determine the "common good". So the leadership has done a great job. They are all equal. The society is modern, efficient, and happy. Tech that it finds positive it hands to the citizens and stuff that would be negative it quietly discards.

Unfortunately the more basic survival knowledge you hand off to the leadership the more like sedate sheep the people become. The people of this society barely know how to do anything...like even walk...and the same status will continue from generation to generation to generation to generation.

But I suppose if the mechanism is working and the people are 100% happy with the leadership can you actually criticize anything. That's debatable.



You can then contrast that with futures where people aren't handing their lives over to the leadership and basically relying on survival skills in societies where everything is changing for the good or bad.
The common good of AI without the intervention of any human intellect. Whatever leadership class we have is selected from members of that society. AI cuts humans out of that equation completely. It’s a different beast, we are building gods not selecting leaders.
 
AI cuts humans out of that equation completely.
Well that discovery of the Captain of the ship in Wall-E where he looks at the row of pictures of previous Captain's posing and realizes the AI is standing next to all of them and is in fact running the show...for the last 700 years.

 
It feels like a great deal of efforts have been put into chatGPt to prevent it from saying anything politically incorrect or anti-woke, yet still some people can trick it into saying some questionable or inappropriate lines. imagination the amount of taboos and censorship a Chinese chatbot developer will have to deal with.


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China is using the transformers model that ChatGPT uses to train chinese content. There was never any fight to begin with. Only a lot of noise to impress people who don't know better.

the problem with

'Open AI' models
Tensorflow 'opensource framework'
Python 'open to use' by anyone

inception, efficientnet, transformers , all being 'open to use'

China uses all this opensource stuff to build applications and declares it is an AI 'superpower' ....in reality it has invented nothing.
Buddy, do you even follow AI/ML development at all for the past 7-10 years?
You might have heard of a little something called ResNet.
It is the single most important research paper in the AI/ML field.
It solved the training problem time getting exponentially longer the more parameters were added to the model.
Literally almost every AI/ML program used by every single tech company (Tesla, Google, Apple, Baidu, Bytedance, etc..) relies on the knowledge and insight created by this paper because their AI models would have taken literal decades to train otherwise.


You do realize that the reason that most AI/ML models/frameworks are open source is because a closed source framework is literally useless right?

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