Rosatom chief: Akkuyu construction has started!!!

[Oublious]

Anybody know why they didn't get them earlier seems abit late I would have expected them to be operating some already.

Didn't you forget? Whe shot the fighter down...

 

[KediKesenFare3]

I know why you're saying that, but have you ever thought about storing nuclear waste for the next 1000 years?

We don't have to store it in the first place.

 

[Deliorman]

Can't we invite mister A. Q. Khan and ask him how to properly store the nuclear waste? I'm sure he has the right knowledge about it.

Pakistanis are so lucky with having a hero like him...

 

[razgriz19]

We actually have Uranium and Thorium deposits in Turkey: http://www.enerji.gov.tr/en-US/Pages/Uranium-and-Thorium

It's just not economical to start mining in these fields. However, some political desicion makers could think differently regarding this issue.


İt all depends on one vital question:

If the spent nuclear fuel is staying in Turkey rather than sending it back to Russia, Erdoğan did something very, very good for the future of Turkey. If not, he's just dump.

Spent fuel just sits in the bottom of an old mining shaft, packed in concrete.
CANDU reactors use uranium that only needs to sit on site for 10 years after being used before they can be SAFELY stored underground for good. Russian reactors use more potent fuel, they would have to be stay longer on site in irridiated water bays before they can be stored underground permanently.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Spent fuel just sits in the bottom of an old mining shaft, packed in concrete.
CANDU reactors use uranium that only needs to sit on site for 10 years after being used before they can be SAFELY stored underground for good. Russian reactors use more potent fuel, they would have to be stay longer on site in irridiated water bays before they can be stored underground permanently.

There are no publicly released information regarding the storage of spent fuel from the Akkuyu Plant.

Though originally TAEK required reactor vendors to take back used fuel, the question of whether used fuel for Akkuyu will remain in Turkey or be repatriated to Russia in line with normal practice for Russian plants in non-weapons states had not been settled (by May 2014).
http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-t-z/turkey.aspx

Actually, this is very interesting. If there is no agreement, it will definitely remain in Turkey under the control of the Turkish government.

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Nuclear issues, Nuclear Russia, Radioactive waste and spent nuclear fuel

Rosatom’s vague plans could create radwaste crisis in Turkey, environmentalists fear

As Russian state nuclear corporation Rosatom continues site preparation for the Akkuyu nuclear power plant in Turkey, environmentalists have raised alarm over radioactive waste and spent nuclear fuel issues the sweeping deal leaves unresolved.

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The $22 billion plan to build four VVER-1200 type reactors was inked in 2012. But the deal so far skirts any of the typical considerations for storing or reprocessing the spent fuel and waste Turkey’s first nuclear power plant would generate once it goes into operation in 2022.

Andrei Ozharovsky, a Russian nuclear expert who works with Bellona and who has travelled to Turkey to discuss the nuclear plant’s plans, says failing to figure out what will happen with the spent nuclear fuel now could lead to a crisis later.

A flyer for a protest against the Akkuyu Nuclear power plant. (Photo: sabah.com.tr)

The agreement between Turkey and Rosatom created a joint stock company called JSC Akkuyu Nuclear, which is responsible for building the plant and eventually handling its waste and decommissioning later this century.

Rosatom has said the company submitted plans to Turkish nuclear officials offering some details of how radioactive waste and spent nuclear fuel could be dealt with. One possibility is an agreement with Rosatom that could repatriate spent fuel from Turkey to Russia for reprocessing.

But Ozharovsky points to two problems with that. First, he says that what plans there are for spent nuclear fuel at the plant are being developed in near secrecy.

Second, even if Russia does consider taking the Turkish spent nuclear fuel for reprocessing – which is not uncommon for plants the Soviets built in Ukraine and Bulgaria – Russia would by its own legislation be able to return to Turkey each year several tons of highly radioactive waste products arising from reprocessing Akkuyu’s fuel.

At best, then, whatever vague plans Rosatom and Turkey are considering for dealing with spent nuclear fuel from the Akkuyu plant might only postpone a radioactive waste crisis for Ankara, and a costly one at that.

And that’s not accounting for eventual political differences that could cloud Rosatom’s obligation to the Akkuyu plant, and Turkey would be wise to consider this because it’s happened before. In 2015, Rosatom halted construction

preparationson Akkuyu following the downing of a Russian jet flying sorties over Syria near the Turkey-Syria border.

The site preparation activities at Akkuyu resumed again shortly after Ankara’s position on Syria took a more Moscow-friendly line, but that was only the latest incident illustrating Russia’s growing comfort with using nuclear power deals abroad as a tool for political strong-arming.

At the height of EU-Russia tensions over Moscow’s annexation of Crimea, the Kremlin threatened to cut nuclear fuel supplies to Ukraine’s Soviet built reactors, raising the specter of Moscow forcing a nuclear accident. Rosatom eventually walked the threat back, but the lurid message was clear.

To avoid a pile up of radioactive waste and spent nuclear fuel, Ozharovsky says Turkey should be developing a long term strategy for handling spent nuclear fuel and radioactive waste and coming up with some estimated for how much that would cost. Russia, he said, is unlikely to provide its fuel services for free.

 

[Saithan]

hm... well like it was pointed out we do have small reactors for research purpose, so the lame dissing of past politicians is unneeded. I also believe that it was due to feasibility studies that Turkey didn't get a nuclear powerplant in the past. This could be due to the windwill and solar panel potential we have. Though we just recently starting building windmill farms and such.

Some of the problems we might face if we have enrichment is IAEA control, which isn't a problem. But political drama that iran went through. It's P5+1, and I don't think they're ready to be P6+1 anytime soon.

 

[revojam]

hm... well like it was pointed out we do have small reactors for research purpose, so the lame dissing of past politicians is unneeded. I also believe that it was due to feasibility studies that Turkey didn't get a nuclear powerplant in the past. This could be due to the windwill and solar panel potential we have. Though we just recently starting building windmill farms and such.

Some of the problems we might face if we have enrichment is IAEA control, which isn't a problem. But political drama that iran went through. It's P5+1, and I don't think they're ready to be P6+1 anytime soon.

Better to stay away from any deal include 'International Obligations' phrase.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Spent fuel just sits in the bottom of an old mining shaft, packed in concrete.
CANDU reactors use uranium that only needs to sit on site for 10 years after being used before they can be SAFELY stored underground for good. Russian reactors use more potent fuel, they would have to be stay longer on site in irridiated water bays before they can be stored underground permanently.

Turkey should've gone with the CANDU solution too. So many advantages, and can help with a possible "future nuclear weapons program" too as it produces plutonium as part of the reactor byproducts.

Does Pakistan now have the expertise and the know-how to construct a reactor of this type? If so why not make and offer Pakistani commercial powerplant solutions and compete with the likes of Areva, Rosatom, Westinghouse, etc?

 

[dBSPL]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1549820439920271360

The foundation of the 4th Reactor of AKKUYU, which will be one of the largest Nuclear Power Plants in the world, is laid tomorrow.

AKKUYU NPP will be commissioned in 2023.

The power plant, which will consist of 4 units and have a total installed power of 4,800 megawatts, will produce approximately 35 billion kilowatt-hours of electricity annually.