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Panasonic blames lacklustre Tesla demand for cut to profit outlook​

Japanese electronics group slashes full-year operating profit for its car battery unit by 15%

A Panasonic logo in Japan


Panasonic’s downgrade was spurred by slowing demand in North America for Tesla EVs © Reuters

David Keohane in Tokyo and Peter Campbell in London
Panasonic, the Japanese electronics group, cut its full-year profit outlook at its battery unit by 15 per cent, blaming slower-than-expected sales of high-end electric vehicles at Tesla, one of its most important customers.

The downgrade by Panasonic, which lowered its full-year operating profit forecast for its battery unit to ¥115bn ($771mn) from ¥135bn, was spurred by slowing demand in North America for Tesla EVs, which do not qualify for tax incentives under the Inflation Reduction Act.

“The IRA has a price ceiling up to $80,000 and since the high-end models exceed that level, demand decreased,” said Panasonic’s chief financial officer Hirokazu Umeda on Monday.

Umeda said that Panasonic had cut automotive battery production in Japan — where it produces the batteries for the more expensive Tesla models including the Model S and Model X — by 60 per cent compared with the first quarter as it tried to bring inventories back to normal levels.

Tesla has also placed less emphasis on its flagship models, withdrawing them from right-hand drive markets such as the UK, in order to push its more affordable Model 3 and Model Y cars.

“I think we can expect some recovery going forward. Still we did not expect big growth like what we see in the US plant. So we’ll be running the Japan factory based on that assumption,” Umeda added.

The company also produces batteries for cheaper Teslas, which are benefiting from the IRA, at its Nevada factory. Panasonic is investing billions to build a plant in Kansas.

President Joe Biden’s IRA has led to a flurry of investments in US battery manufacturing, though most new EVs made in the country do not yet qualify, either because they are too expensive or because their batteries are still imported.

The cuts by Panasonic follow other warnings about EV demand globally. Tesla, General Motors and Ford have slowed down their EV factory expansions in expectation of weaker demand for cars owing to higher financing costs and weaker than expected economic growth in China and Europe.

Last week South Korean battery producer LG Energy Solution echoed Tesla chief Elon Musk and warned EV sales were expected to weaken as a result of higher interest rates.

Earlier in the month, Tesla’s third-quarter revenue fell short of Wall Street’s reduced expectations and its core profit margins sagged, as planned factory shutdowns and price cuts dented the US electric-car maker’s performance.

Panasonic’s Umeda said on Monday that, in the second quarter to September, the car battery business made a loss if IRA subsidies were excluded. The unit recorded sales of ¥185bn, not including subsidies, compared with ¥2.1tn for the entire group.

Despite expectations that EV demand will improve in the US, Panasonic, which also makes a wide array of consumer and industrial electronics, cut its operating income forecast from ¥430bn to ¥400bn for the year to the end of March 2024 due in part to the impact of the slowdown in China.

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Panasonic needs to look into Nissan and Toyota now.

It has to do with the particular battery they are making in Japan vs US.

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The high-end Tesla Model S and Model X use this one:
Panasonic 1865..made in Japan.


However the Tesla Model 3 and Model Y use these:
Panasonic 2170/4680..made in US.

The only factories in the world making the Tesla Model S and X are in the US but they have cut production to concentrate on making more Model 3 and Model Ys.

So the factories in Japan making 1865's are seeing a loss in business.



So then you say why make the lower end cars instead of the high margin higher priced cars?
Well demand for the lower price Model 3/Y cars has skyrocketed due to a $7500 tax rebate for the lower end cars that is not available for the higher end Model S/X ones.


Plus the lower end cars are made with the new quick gigapress method of molded body construction while the Model S and X use robots welding large numbers of smaller pieces.


Tesla Q1-Q3'2023 results (YOY change):
  • Total production: 1,350,996 (up 45%)
    • Model 3/Y production: 1,298,382 (up 48%)
    • Model S/X production: 52,614 (up 4%)
  • Total deliveries: 1,324,074 (up 46%)
    • Model 3/Y deliveries: 1,278,169 (up 49%)
    • Model S/X deliveries: 45,905 (down 7%)
 
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