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When India and the United States sign a $2.6 billion deal today to procure 24 MH-60R Sea Hawk helicopters, it will be after a tense 14-year wait for the Indian Navy. Six of the Sikorsky-built helicopters will be delivered early next year, with the remaining 18 to follow in batches over two years. For the navy, they couldn’t possibly be arriving sooner. And the journey to this point, like several other procurement programs, highlights the troubling stomach the Indian armed forces are compelled to have for delays.

Confirming that the deal would be signed today, US President Donald Trump said in Ahmedabad yesterday, “I am pleased to announce that, tomorrow, our representatives will sign deals to sell over $3 billion in the absolute finest, state-of-the-art military helicopters and other equipment to the Indian Armed Forces.”

The second deal that will be signed today, that Trump refers to, is for 6 AH-64E Apache attack helicopters for the Indian Army as options on an earlier IAF procurement. But it is the deal today for MH-60Rs that merits a closer look back.

The 24 Sea Hawks being contracted today are a twisted culmination of an erstwhile Indian Navy procurement program called the Multirole Helicopter (MRH) that was first articulated in 2006-07. The MRH sought to quickly, but competitively, choose and procure 16 naval helicopters to augment and replace the Indian Navy’s Sea Kings. The navy operates Westland Sea Kings and a flight of Sikorsky UH-3H Sea Kings that came as part of the USS Trenton supply deal in 2007. It was amidst plans to upgrade and extend the life of its Sea Kings that the navy decided at the time to forward plan for replacement helicopters.

Five years passed before the contest reached anywhere close to finality, with India left to decide between the European NH90 and Sikorsky’s S-70B Sea Hawk. A protracted and unusually ill-tempered contest, it seemed that amidst the turbulence of an annoyed Indian Navy and the AgustaWestland helicopter scandal (AgustaWestland’s parent company owns 32% of NHIndustries), it seemed for a while that the Indian Navy was being empowered to award the program to Sikorsky for 16 S-70Bs.

All through the contest, Sikorsky had pitched the MH-60R, a higher capability helicopter based on the same Sea Hawk airframe as the S-70B, but the Indian Navy had held off on the offer, saying it would consider the more expensive Romeo helicopters for the the separate Naval Multirole Helicopter (NMRH) program that sought to procure 44 helicopters. In 2015, Sikorsky was bought out by Lockheed-Martin Inc., which put significant energies into persuading the Indian government that the MH-60R was the way to go in a no-fuss government-to-government deal. In consequence, the troublesome MRH procurement then went into familiar limbo for two years, with no official word on whether the Indian MoD planned to announce a decision one way or the other. During this time, there was significant debate within the Indian Navy whether to abort the program entirely, or keep it alive.

In August 2017, the Indian Navy made a dramatic announcement. The erstwhile NMRH requirement was rebooted, with the number of airframes nearly tripled from 44 to 123, and a degree of detailing in terms of a split between multirole utility and special operations. But what about the dormant MRH? Almost exactly a year later, things became clear.

In August 2018, days before the crucial ‘2+2’ dialogue between India and the United States, the Indian MoD cleared the Indian Navy to pursue the acquisition of 24 Sikorsky MH-60R helicopters. Less than two years later, that deal will be signed today by India and the United States under the latter’s Foreign Military Sales (FMS) program. The MRH program was never officially laid to rest, but with the 24 Romeos to cost $2.6 billion, the navy will be hoping it can keep the NMRH program for 123 such helicopters alive. The latter program is to be executed under India’s ambitious Strategic Partnership (SP) model.

On the back of today’s deal, the MH-60R will hold an obvious advantage going into the NMRH program, if and when it happens as proposed. Not surprisingly, the NH90 which vied for the original MRH program won’t be a player in the NMRH. Instead, NHIndustries’ majority shareholder Airbus Helicopters has decided to pitch the H225M Caracal. The latter is also a contender for the Indian Coastguard’s procurement competition for 14 twin-engine heavy helicopters (TEHH) cleared by the MoD last year. The Caracal goes up against Sikorsky’s S-92.



The 24 MH-60Rs and the 123 NMRH helicopters (if that numbers holds steady) will operate off aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya, the upcoming indigenous aircraft carriers Vikrant, the three Shivalik-class stealth frigates, the follow-on P-17A frigates as well as current and future destroyer types, the Delhi-class, Kolkata-class and Visakhapatnam-class.
https://www.livefistdefence.com/202...it-ends-with-india-us-chopper-deal-today.html
 
Actually it old news.But today it confirmed.
14 years looool

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Statment from SIkorsky Today

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While world is providing relief to its human population, bhart is trying to provide relief to its army.

Indian military is like stubborn child who want to get every expensive toy that it sees with other kids, while it's siblings suffer.
 
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While world is providing relief to its human population, bhart is trying to provide relief to its army.

Indian military is like stubborn child who want to get every expensive toy that it sees with other kids, while it's siblings suffer.
Once deal signed you can't back off.
 
While world is providing relief to its human population, bhart is trying to provide relief to its army.

Indian military is like stubborn child who want to get every expensive toy that it sees with other kids, while it's siblings suffer.

This deal was signed in February
Maybe the OP was sleeping under some rocks

Indian Navy currently operates 33 Sea kings and 13 Mi28 Helix in ASW roles
These 24 Helis will replace 17 Seakings which were inducted in 1995-96
 
$2.6 billion for 24 MH-60R Sea Hawk helicopters,108million one
It's more expensive than the f35. India is rich
 
This deal was signed in February
Maybe the OP was sleeping under some rocks

Indian Navy currently operates 33 Sea kings and 13 Mi28 Helix in ASW roles
These 24 Helis will replace 17 Seakings which were inducted in 1995-96
I heard some news about navel version of Dhruv also back in town.
 
While world is providing relief to its human population, bhart is trying to provide relief to its army.

We are providing all the vital medication for 200 million Pakistanis. Many many thousands would perish horribly without India Pharmaceutical Industries saving the lives of thousands if not millions of Pakistanis


Medicines and vitamins imported from India, shows ministry’s document
Ikram JunaidiUpdated May 12, 2020

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Pakistan suspended trade with India after Delhi annexed held Kashmir in August last year. — AFP/File
ISLAMABAD: While a directive has been issued by the prime minister to his aide on accountability Shahzad Akbar to probe the import of over 450 medicines from India, a document of the Ministry of National Health Services (NHS) shows that a number of vitamins, drugs and salts were imported from India.

After India’s decision to annex held Kashmir on August 5, 2019, the federal government on Aug 9 suspended all kinds of trade with India. Initially, the pharmaceutical industry had appealed to relax the government’s decision for clearance of those goods already imported from India before the government decision and reached the country’s airport/seaport. In the wake of the appeal it was decided by the government to relax the rules and goods were cleared.

However, as a large number of medicines and its raw material used to be imported from India, the pharmaceutical industry started demanding that the ban should be lifted on Indian medicines and the raw material because otherwise within a few weeks, the country might face a severe shortage of medicines especially life-saving drugs. So, in order to avoid the severe crisis regarding availability of life-saving drugs in the market, the federal government lifted the ban on import of medicines and raw material from India.

Pakistan suspended trade with India after Delhi annexed held Kashmir in August last year

Later, a hue and cry started that all kinds of medicines were being imported in the name of life-saving drugs.

The document of the Ministry of National Health Services (NHS), presented before the federal cabinet on May 5 and available with Dawn, states that the prime minister in his capacity as Minister In-charge for NHS sought a list of drugs being imported from India.

The document, signed by MHS Secretary Dr Tanveer Ahmed Qureshi, shows that a number of vaccines, including BCG, Polio and Anti Tetanus Vaccine, have been imported. Moreover, a number of vitamins, including B1, B2, B6, B12, D3, Zinc Sulphate Monohydrate, were also being imported from India.

An official of the Drug Regulatory Authority of Pakistan, requesting not to be quoted, said that initially it was claimed that cancer patients would suffer if import of medicines and their raw material from India were banned.

“However, later all kinds of medicines were imported from India due to which we have been transferring the foreign exchange to India. The govt should ensure that the medicines and their raw materials are manufactured in Pakistan as it will allow us to save the precious foreign exchange and ensure export of medicines abroad,” he said.

When contacted, a senior officer of the Ministry of NHS, said that it was not appropriate to comment on it as Special Assistant to the Prime Minister on Accountability Shahzad Akbar had been assigned to look into the issue.

“Moreover, the Ministry of Commerce is also involved in it so we have decided to let Mr Akbar look into the matter,” he said.

Published in Dawn, May 12th, 2020

Dawn
 
$2.6 billion for 24 MH-60R Sea Hawk helicopters,108million one
It's more expensive than the f35. India is rich

The price tag includes the weapons package, training, simulators , maintence infra development at 2 bases as well as 5 years spares contract
 
They waited 14 years for this?


It's the first new ASW Helicopter Purchase since the 2006 acquisition of 6 Seakings and 9 Mi31

So training etc costs 4x more?
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why we let them scam us?

THE S70 Sea Hawk used to cost 28 million USD in 2010
The ones we are getting is the MH60 Romeo
Which is a new Helicopter all together except certain airframe commonalities

Also u need to take into account inflation
Prices don't stay the same for ever
Which is why the first Su30KMIs used to cost 200 crores in 2010 and the ones inducted in 2020 cost upwards of 350 crores
 
We are providing all the vital medication for 200 million Pakistanis. Many many thousands would perish horribly without India Pharmaceutical Industries saving the lives of thousands if not millions of Pakistanis


Medicines and vitamins imported from India, shows ministry’s document
Ikram JunaidiUpdated May 12, 2020

5eba1c009f58a.jpg

Pakistan suspended trade with India after Delhi annexed held Kashmir in August last year. — AFP/File
ISLAMABAD: While a directive has been issued by the prime minister to his aide on accountability Shahzad Akbar to probe the import of over 450 medicines from India, a document of the Ministry of National Health Services (NHS) shows that a number of vitamins, drugs and salts were imported from India.

After India’s decision to annex held Kashmir on August 5, 2019, the federal government on Aug 9 suspended all kinds of trade with India. Initially, the pharmaceutical industry had appealed to relax the government’s decision for clearance of those goods already imported from India before the government decision and reached the country’s airport/seaport. In the wake of the appeal it was decided by the government to relax the rules and goods were cleared.

However, as a large number of medicines and its raw material used to be imported from India, the pharmaceutical industry started demanding that the ban should be lifted on Indian medicines and the raw material because otherwise within a few weeks, the country might face a severe shortage of medicines especially life-saving drugs. So, in order to avoid the severe crisis regarding availability of life-saving drugs in the market, the federal government lifted the ban on import of medicines and raw material from India.

Pakistan suspended trade with India after Delhi annexed held Kashmir in August last year

Later, a hue and cry started that all kinds of medicines were being imported in the name of life-saving drugs.

The document of the Ministry of National Health Services (NHS), presented before the federal cabinet on May 5 and available with Dawn, states that the prime minister in his capacity as Minister In-charge for NHS sought a list of drugs being imported from India.

The document, signed by MHS Secretary Dr Tanveer Ahmed Qureshi, shows that a number of vaccines, including BCG, Polio and Anti Tetanus Vaccine, have been imported. Moreover, a number of vitamins, including B1, B2, B6, B12, D3, Zinc Sulphate Monohydrate, were also being imported from India.

An official of the Drug Regulatory Authority of Pakistan, requesting not to be quoted, said that initially it was claimed that cancer patients would suffer if import of medicines and their raw material from India were banned.

“However, later all kinds of medicines were imported from India due to which we have been transferring the foreign exchange to India. The govt should ensure that the medicines and their raw materials are manufactured in Pakistan as it will allow us to save the precious foreign exchange and ensure export of medicines abroad,” he said.

When contacted, a senior officer of the Ministry of NHS, said that it was not appropriate to comment on it as Special Assistant to the Prime Minister on Accountability Shahzad Akbar had been assigned to look into the issue.

“Moreover, the Ministry of Commerce is also involved in it so we have decided to let Mr Akbar look into the matter,” he said.

Published in Dawn, May 12th, 2020

Dawn
You don't save anyone. Your pharma companies are just businesses who happen to sell drugs to Pakistani importers. Your country makes $$$ on that which you use to buy weapons against Pakistan.
 

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