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Remembering the soldiers of the First World War, 100 years on.


By Dr Irfan Malik and Michael Noble (The Centre for Hidden Histories, University of Nottingham)

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A nineteenth century cannon sits at the centre of a Pakistani village. Here we take a look at the story of the Dulmial Gun.

Dulmial is a village approximately a hundred miles south of Islamabad, in the Salt Range region. A century ago, the area was part of British India, which meant that its inhabitants were drawn into the Great War on the side of the Allies. A settlement steeped in military history, Dulmial sent 460 of its men to fight in the British Army, including both of Dr Malik’s great grandfathers. The largest single participation of any village in Asia. Nine gave their lives. In recognition of the significant military service and sacrifice, in 1925 the British Government offered Dulmial an award of their choosing. The man in charge of choosing was Captain Ghulam Mohammad Malik, the highest ranking and most decorated soldier of the village. The Captain was a man of great experience, having commenced his military life in the Derajet Mountain Battery and participated in Lord Roberts’ famous march from Kabul to Kandahar in 1880. His photograph and achievements are documented in the book ‘The History of the Indian Mountain Artillery’ by Brigadier-General Graham published in 1957. A career soldier, Captain Malik eschewed the British offers of land, money and water facilities, choosing instead to have Dulmial’s contribution recognised with the presentation of a cannon.
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The British agreed to this selection and provided Dulmial with a twelve pounder. The cannon itself was made at Carron ironworks, in Falkirk, Scotland in 1816. Its stand was built in Cossipore Gun Foundry, India, under the leadership of Captain A. Broome, in 1847. The gun was first collected from the First Punjab Regimental Centre in Jhelum, from where it was carried by train to Chakwal. There the gun was dismounted and loaded in a cart to be pulled by three pairs of oxen for the remaining 28 kms. The roads were semi-mountainous and the passage was difficult. It would take the ox carts two weeks to cover the distance. From 5 kms out, at ChoaSaiden Shah, the route became more difficult still and Dulmial had to dispatch five additional pairs of oxen to relieve the initial six to complete the gun’s journey.
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Safely in Dulmial, the gun was placed at the centre of the village and a photograph taken with the local commissioned officers. It remains there today, a reminder of the contribution that Dulmial made in the First World War.
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Dulmial is now known within Pakistan as the ‘village with the gun’, but is rather less well known in the UK. This is because little has been written or published about the village in English. Dr Malik in collaboration with Michael Noble, The Centre for Hidden Histories, University of Nottingham aims to research the First World War history of the village as it played such an impressive part during that period. Since that time Dulmial has continued to produce many generations of high ranking, distinguished Army officers. It is our intention to bring this hidden history to a wider audience and help to share the reasons of just what a nineteenth century Scottish cannon is doing in the Salt Range region of Pakistan.

After informing the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in London of Dulmial’s significant history, several representatives of the village attended the First World War Centenary reception at the British High Commission, Islamabad, Pakistan, on 10th November 2014. This is a great honour and privilege for the inhabitants and worldwide descendants of Dulmial.


DULMIAL, PAKISTAN – The Village with the Gun

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I found the thread interesting, gleaned some more on this topic. A lot of men volunteered for WWII also and this incident is from then...
Quoting from another source
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Haji Malik Muhammad Khan was one of those men. Now 91 years of age, the old soldier is still fit enough to take a daily march across the village.

"I was recruited in the British army on December 11, 1940," he told AFP. "Everybody from our village was going to fight because there was great poverty around here."

Khan's service with a Punjab infantry regiment fighting the feared Japanese took him to some of the toughest theatres of the war in the east -- Burma (now called Myanmar), Indonesia and Malaya (now Malaysia).

There were many difficult times during the war," he said. "Many a time we had to eat the roots of banana plants to quell our hunger."


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/af...akistani-village-gave-sons-fight-Britain.html
 
Mr. Sharf Din, appointed as honorary lieutenant for Land Forces in the British Indian Army on first August 1933 with the order of King of England George fifth.

Lieutenant Sharif Din was resident of village Changa Bangyal, near Gujar Khan, Rawalpindi. He died in 1950.

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The Pakistan village that sent all of its men to fight in WWI - and was nearly airbrushed out of history

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Officers from the village of Dulmial in Pakistan, who fought alongside the British in the First World War CREDIT: ANDREW FOX/ANDREW FOX

Joe Shute
25 OCTOBER 2018 • 6:40AM


Dr Irfan Malik was just five years-old when he left his native Nottingham to visit his ancestral village of Dulmial in Pakistan. Aside from the heat and the dust and privations of this small agricultural village in the Salt Range Region of the Punjab 100 miles south of Islamabad, one particular detail registered in his young mind: a 12lb British cannon, mounted on a marble plinth ‘in recognition of services rendered by all ranks from this village’ during the First World War.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/...sent-men-fight-wwi-nearly-airbrushed-history/


Cant get the rest of the story...Anybody?
 
The Pakistan village that sent all of its men to fight in WWI - and was nearly airbrushed out of history

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Officers from the village of Dulmial in Pakistan, who fought alongside the British in the First World War CREDIT: ANDREW FOX/ANDREW FOX

Joe Shute
25 OCTOBER 2018 • 6:40AM


Dr Irfan Malik was just five years-old when he left his native Nottingham to visit his ancestral village of Dulmial in Pakistan. Aside from the heat and the dust and privations of this small agricultural village in the Salt Range Region of the Punjab 100 miles south of Islamabad, one particular detail registered in his young mind: a 12lb British cannon, mounted on a marble plinth ‘in recognition of services rendered by all ranks from this village’ during the First World War.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/...sent-men-fight-wwi-nearly-airbrushed-history/


Cant get the rest of the story...Anybody?

Kirthari are very hard to defeat.
 
The Pakistani village that gave its sons to fight for Britain
By AFP

PUBLISHED: 04:41 BST, 11 November 2014 | UPDATED: 04:41 BST, 11 November 2014

Down a broken road winding through a corner of Pakistan's Punjab province lies a silent graveyard, the resting place of hundreds of soldiers who fought for Britain in two world wars.

Nestled in the rocky hills of Punjab's salt ranges, blasted by heat in the summer, the village of Dulmial is a far cry from the freezing mud of the Flanders trenches.

But the village, around 150 kilometres (90 miles) from Islamabad, gave 460 men to fight in the 1914-18 conflict -- more than any other single village in what was then British India.


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A resident displays a photograph of captain Malik Ghulam Muhammad, a veteran of WWI, in the village of Dulmial in Pakistan's Chakwal district on October 29, 2014 ©Aamir Qureshi (AFP/File)

By the end of World War I, nearly 1.3 million men from across the Indian subcontinent had volunteered for service, with 74,000 giving their lives in the fight against Germany and its allies.

As part of commemorations of the 100th anniversary of the start of World War I, the British High Commission in Islamabad unveiled a plaque on Monday honouring Pakistani recipients of the Victoria Cross.

Three soldiers from what is now Pakistan were awarded the VC, Britain's highest military honour, for extreme bravery under fire.

Dulmial's contribution to Britain's war effort is recognised with a historic 12-pounder artillery gun, made in Scotland, installed on a marble platform in 1925 as a memorial and still kept an immaculate, gleaming black.

A few metres away, the primary school building has another plaque placed on a monument.

"From this village 460 men went to the Great War 1914-1919. Of these 9 gave their lives," the plaque reads.


- Proud history -

Dulmial's military tradition continues to this day -- the district is still a fertile recruiting ground for Pakistan's armed forces.

The WWI centenary has sparked interest in the village's history and the sacrifice made for the colonial rulers, who governed the subcontinent until it was divided into India and Pakistan at independence in 1947.

A one-room museum in the former home of late WWI veteran Fateh Muhammad Malik houses mementoes of the village's proud heritage -- a captured Italian battle flag, old military equipment and photos of soldiers.

"Three soldiers of our village received Indian Order of Merit (IOM) medals for their bravery and valour shown for the British forces during various wars," said Riaz Ahmed Malik, president of Dulmial's history society.

"The IOM medal was equivalent to the Victoria Cross because this top British military medal was not awarded to Indian soldiers before 1911."

Troops from the village were also honoured for bravery fighting in France in 1915, he said.

"Besides 460 men of our village who fought in WWI, at least 736 went to fight in WWII," Malik said.


- 'We ate roots' -

Haji Malik Muhammad Khan was one of those men. Now 91 years of age, the old soldier is still fit enough to take a daily march across the village.

"I was recruited in the British army on December 11, 1940," he told AFP. "Everybody from our village was going to fight because there was great poverty around here."

Khan's service with a Punjab infantry regiment fighting the feared Japanese took him to some of the toughest theatres of the war in the east -- Burma (now called Myanmar), Indonesia and Malaya (now Malaysia).

"There were many difficult times during the war," he said. "Many a time we had to eat the roots of banana plants to quell our hunger.

"Once our whole regiment was surrounded by the Japanese in the forests of Burma. As intelligence officer, I was assigned to get us out of the siege and thank God I succeeded."

Almost 70 years after the end of WWII, Khan wants no one else to go through the horrors he witnessed as a young man.

"Disputes should be solved through talks. There should be no war. War destroys countries, lands, crops, people. War is a very bad thing," he said.

But for Malik, wars have put their village on the map, making it stand out from the thousands of others that dot Punjab.

"This cannon installed here is our pride. If we did not have this gun for our martial services, our village would have been like all others," he said.

"Our village sent the highest number of soldiers in WWI from Asia and we are proud of our history."


His mission now is to build a monument to accompany the gun, commemorating soldiers from the village who fought for Pakistan, as well as the British Empire.


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A resident displays a photograph of veterans of WWI and WWII in the village of Dulmial in Pakistan's Chakwal district on October 29, 2014 ©Aamir Qureshi (AFP/File)


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Riaz Ahmed Malik, general secretary for the social welfare society of his village, diplays the medals awarded to his late father subedar Muhammad Khan Malik by The British Raj, a veteran of WWI and WWII, in Dulmial on October 29, 2014 ©Aamir Qureshi (AFP/File)


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Schoolchildren play beside a cannon placed in the village of Dulmial in pakistan's Chakwal district on October 29, 2014 ©Aamir Qureshi (AFP/File)


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Riaz Ahmed Malik (L), general secretary for the social welfare society of his village, offers prayers at the grave of Captain Malik Ghulam Muhammad, a veteran of WWI, in the village of Dulmial in Pakistan's Chakwal district on October 29, 2014 ©Aamir Qureshi (AFP/File)


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/a...akistani-village-gave-sons-fight-Britain.html

Cant believe a tabloid had to produce this! Cant find much in mainstream papers!
 
Dulmial: the Pakistani 'village with the gun' honouring WW1 soldiers who fought for Britain
Posted on centenarynews.com on 25 November 2014

A cannon displayed in the Pakistani village of Dulmial honours 460 soldiers who fought for Britain in the First World War. Dr Irfan Malik and Michael Noble, of the Centre for Hidden Histories at the University of Nottingham, tell the remarkable story.

Dulmial is a village approximately 100 miles south of Islamabad, in the Salt Range region. A century ago, the area was part of British India, which meant that its inhabitants were drawn into the Great War on the side of the Allies.

A settlement steeped in military history, Dulmial sent 460 of its men to fight in the British Army, including both of Dr Irfan Malik’s great grandfathers. It was the largest single participation of any village in Asia. Nine gave their lives.

In recognition of the significant military service and sacrifice, in 1925 the British Government offered Dulmial an award of their choosing. The man in charge of choosing was Captain Ghulam Mohammad Malik, the highest ranking and most decorated soldier of the village.

The Captain was a man of great experience, having commenced his military life in the Derajet Mountain Battery and participated in Lord Roberts' famous march from Kabul to Kandahar in 1880. His photograph and achievements are documented in Brigadier-General C.A.L. Graham's book 'The History of the Indian Mountain Artillery', published in 1957. A career soldier, he eschewed the British offers of land, money and water facilities, choosing instead to have Dulmial’s contribution recognised with the presentation of a cannon.

'Twelve Pounder'

The British agreed to this selection and provided Dulmial with a twelve pounder. The cannon itself was made at Carron ironworks, in Falkirk, Scotland, in 1816. Its stand was built in Cossipore Gun Foundry, India, under the leadership of Captain A. Broome, in 1847.

The gun was first collected from the First Punjab Regimental Centre in Jhelum, from where it was carried by train to Chakwal. There the gun was dismounted and loaded in a cart to be pulled by three pairs of oxen for the remaining 28 kilometres (17 miles). The roads were semi-mountainous and the passage was difficult. It would take the ox carts two weeks to cover the distance. From five kilometres out (three miles), at Choa Saiden Shah, the route became more difficult still and Dulmial had to dispatch five additional pairs of oxen to relieve the initial six and complete the gun’s journey.

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(Photo, by Dr Irfan Malik, from an original picture, displayed in Dulmial village)

Safely in Dulmial, the gun was placed at the centre of the village and a photograph taken with the local commissioned officers. It remains there today, a reminder of the contribution that Dulmial made in the First World War.

Dulmial is now known within Pakistan as the 'village with the gun’, but is rather less well known in the UK. This is because little has been written or published about the village in English. Dr Malik in collaboration with Michael Noble, The Centre for Hidden Histories, University of Nottingham, aims to research the First World War history of the village as it played such an impressive part during that period.

Since that time Dulmial has continued to produce many generations of high ranking, distinguished army officers. It is our intention to bring this hidden history to a wider audience and help to share the reasons of just what a 19th century Scottish cannon is doing in the Salt Range region of Pakistan.



After informing the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in London of Dulmial’s significant history, several representatives of the village attended the First World War Centenary reception at the British High Commission, Islamabad, Pakistan, on November 10th 2014. This is a great honour and privilege for the inhabitants and worldwide descendants of Dulmial.


© Centenary Digital Ltd & Authors

Images courtesy of Dr Irfan Malik & the village of Dulmial

http://www.centenarynews.com/article?id=3097


Er.. they went to fight for an enemy occupying their country..?:unsure:
At that time it was the govt...They went to fight from their land for who...well that depends how you see it...If during the ancient times people went to fight for the Ottomans....What did you call that?
 
We need to stop being proud of such shit. This wasn't out war and we merely got dragged into it.
Its not about the war it is about the dedication and also sacrifices of the people of this land! When bastards say go back to your land...MANY now can say our grandpa's saved yours so shut up!

Apart from that....Many of these people arent even acknowledged by our own like you for instance and the next generation isnt being told as said below:

Strange that we don't have this stories published in our newspapers or even discussed in Media..


Always be proud of your heritage..You can view the coin from either sides its still a coin!

You can view this as other people's war or our people's dedication and sacrifice ...the bottom line is it is our history , culture and tradition...OWN IT!
 
At that time it was the govt...They went to fight from their land for who...well that depends how you see it...If during the ancient times people went to fight for the Ottomans....What did you call that?

The Germans occupying Poland were also the 'government' but the Poles fought against them, not for them. As for comparing them to the Ottomons, is this a joke. The caliph represented all muslims, regardless of your personal beliefs. I have little sympathy for slaves fighting for the very people that are oppressing them.
 
Strange that we don't have this stories published in our newspapers or even discussed in Media..
Yes! And the proud lines in which the article/ tabloid pens it...and again in telegraph.co.uk sends a bright msg of how Pakistanis did sacrifice and always will! How we are important and always will be!

The Germans occupying Poland were also the 'government' but the Poles fought against them, not for them. As for comparing them to the Ottomons, is this a joke. The caliph represented all muslims, regardless of your personal beliefs. I have little sympathy for slaves fighting for the very people that are oppressing them.
1) it was an example
2) We also fought against the British....we were called terrorists not freedom fighters
3) No joke...Ottomons were still foreigners semantics!
4) Caliph WAS SUPPOSED TO BE...but many had palaces and concubines -
(A) Palaces means wealth was not being distributed properly = against Islam where wealth has to circulate
(B) concubines? Do I need to say more?

As for slaves fighting...It wasnt the best thing but because this village did so...It is on the map! Even today's Pakistani army recruits from there coz these people know their history and are proud fighters IRRESPECTIVE of whom they fought with/ against!
 

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