Burma/Myanmar should be partitioned for greater regional stability & peace

[kalu_miah]

This is a proposal to divide Burma into two parts, in effect a partition, one a place for Bamars, and the other for the rest of minorities, including some of the assimilated Burmese speaking ones like Mon.

Mon people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
8 million
Shan people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
6 million
Karen people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
4 million
Rakhine people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
3 million
Kachin State - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
1.2 million

The new state will have the following states of Burma:

Kachin
Shan
Kayah
Kayin
Mon
Tanintharyi
Bago
Yangon
Ayeyarrwady
Rakhaing

The rump state of old Burma for ethnic Bamar majority will include:
Chin
Sagaing
Mandalay
Magwe

Of course Bamar/Burmans will continue to live in the new state as well, but they will remain a minority and not allowed into the military. Mon's of old Hanthawaddy kingdom will finally be able to revive their old language and culture.

The interested parties for this new state are potentially:

China (PRC)
Thailand
Bangladesh

The motivations are the following:

- Bamar tribe with their past dreams of empire and racial supremacy, are trying to impose their rule on smaller minorities, continuing the history of aggression from past imperial phase of Burma's history where they have come to lower Burma and absorbed the area from older ethnic group Mon's
Hanthawaddy Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Restored Hanthawaddy Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

- the proof for unsound policy of ethnic Bamar's is that the state of Burma still has not stabilized with active ongoing insurgencies by Kachin, Shan, Karen and others
Burma Insurgency

- the best solution is to separate the aggressor Bamars from the victims

- the new two states will also provide China connectivity to sea, Bangladesh connectivity to ASEAN as well as solution to Rohingya refugee problem and Thailand, end of its festering refugee problems at its border with Myanmar and constant flow of Burmese economic migrants to Thailand

- the rump state will be land locked, but it will be allowed to connect and integrate with all neighboring state under ASEAN integration policy of Mekong Delta sub-region

- this will end all insurgencies, as the aggressor is removed and bottled up in the new rump state, but attack from Bamar's will remain a threat from their rump state. Any time there is any aggressive behavior, they will be physically and economically isolated

- the new state will be militarily supported by China, Thailand and Bangladesh

Of course Bamars can decide to address all concerns of their minorities and neighboring states and decide to live peacefully among their neighbors, which will make this kind of project unnecessary, as it will stabilize this region and make growth possible for all concerned. If Bamar majority still cannot solve their issues with their minorities, which I believe they will not be able to for the foreseeable future, then it will be good for China, Thailand and Bangladesh, as well as ASEAN and other global powers to discuss possibility of supporting above partition project for Burma.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

What is this Bangladeshi obsession with partition ?

First partition from India , then from Pakistan . Now they want partition of Myanmar , their neighbouring country .

The country is gradually moving towards democracy and stability . Atleast give them a chance .Partition is not the solution to everything .

 

[kalu_miah]

What is this Bangladeshi obsession with partition ?

First partition from India , then from Pakistan . Now they want partition of Myanmar , their neighbouring country .

The country is gradually moving towards democracy and stability . Atleast give them a chance .Partition is not the solution to everything .

Please read the post and try to debate the points presented. Burma is a semi-failed state full of active insurgencies.

 

[Sasquatch]

Mind telling why this is in the china section ?

 

[INDIC]

What is this Bangladeshi obsession with partition ?

First partition from India , then from Pakistan . Now they want partition of Myanmar , their neighbouring country .

The country is gradually moving towards democracy and stability . Atleast give them a chance .Partition is not the solution to everything .

It would be better if Burma conquer whole of Chittagong region.

 

[livingdead]

kalu mian, you can use your natural talent in real estate ( land, plotting, partition) business.

 

[kalu_miah]

Mind telling why this is in the china section ?

Because China is the main party that can make it happen. If China is not interested it will not happen.

 

[Roybot]

Thread reported.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Because China is the main party that can make it happen. If China is not interested it will not happen.

And you think by putting this suggestion in China sub-forum , you are going to get the Chinese government to act on this proposal ?

Anyway , Myanmar deserves a chance , plain and simple . Let them try out the new direction they are taking atleast for a few years .Why are Bangladeshis feeling insecure of Myanmar ?

 

[neutral_person]

Partition = mass migration and mass murder in the process. There will be ethnic cleansing of minorities in partitioned land (like non-Muslims in Pakistan, Bengalis in pre-1971 Pak), Then the partitioned countries will forever hate one another and fight wars (India - Pakistan). Partition causes more problems than it solves.

 

[Sasquatch]

kalu weren't you for ASEAN Unity and Bangladesh joining so why this ?

 

[Banana]

BSF and Burmese Army aided by Air Support for A2G = Long Range Strategic Nuclear Bombers and Mig 29s and Air Support A2A = Su 30 MKI are ready on Forward Operating Bases.

Remember this Bangladeshi:

 

[Sasquatch]

Because China is the main party that can make it happen. If China is not interested it will not happen.

why partition Myanmar ? it would only make suffering worse I could see taipei supporting this due to their land claims.

 

[kalu_miah]

Partition = mass migration and mass murder in the process. There will be ethnic cleansing of minorities in partitioned land (like non-Muslims in Pakistan, Bengalis in pre-1971 Pak), Then the partitioned countries will forever hate one another and fight wars (India - Pakistan). Partition causes more problems than it solves.

There is already ongoing insurgency wars in Burma, never stopped since 1940's.

kalu weren't you for ASEAN Unity and Bangladesh joining so why this ?

Because I think Burma in its current form will remain an obstacle for regional peace, stability and economic integration. Note the insurgencies there are on going and none of the heavily armed minority groups disarmed, some still fighting.

why partition Myanmar ? it would only make suffering worse I could see taipei supporting this due to their land claims.

That green area is the Kachin and parts of Sagaing state of Myanmar.

Kachin Independence Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In October 2010 KIA commanders informed the BBC that they have "10,000 regular troops and 10,000 reservists", but the BBC had no way to confirm this,[3] and in 2009 Thomas Fuller of the New York Times estimated their numbers at about 4,000 active soldiers.[4] The soldiers are divided into five brigades, plus one mobile brigade. Most are stationed in bases close to the Chinese border, in strips of territory held by the KIO.[4] One brigade is stationed in northern Shan state, where there is a large Kachin population.[citation needed]
In 2011, general Sumlut Gun Maw confirmed renewed fighting in the state of Kachin for independence.[5][6]

 

[anon45]

why didn't you bring this up before Myanmar started becoming more western friendly?