Promoting anti-science via textbooks - by PERVEZ HOODBHOY

marbella said:

If adam and eve came first and had children, whom did their children marry to have more children?
Or did they just marry each other? That also doesn't sound right. Religion does not allow to marry your brother or sister!

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That was an extra ordinary situation and still the discretion was maintained..Just read the Caine and Goliath story and you will know

marbella said:

If adam and eve came first and had children, whom did their children marry to have more children?
Or did they just marry each other? That also doesn't sound right. Religion does not allow to marry your brother or sister!

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There was no religion at that time.

django said:

Unfortunately with the exception of Professor Salam not many if any Pakistani scientists produce work which merits any prestigious award. Sincerely hope this changes.Kudos

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No offense to Dr. Salam, but people give too much credit to the Nobel prize. It is way overrated.

war&peace said:

Hundereds even thousands of Pakistanis have graduated from MIT. I have been visiting that institution as part of my research. So he is not unique. Furthermore, when we talk about scientific contribution, the institution is never asked..research and publications are the main focus...now can you tell me what he has discovered that is unique?

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hahaha you really are impossible
thousand of Pakistani graduates from MIT???
dude there are only 6 Pakistanis in the MIT
and you say you have been there?
like the MIT?? not MUGHOWAL INSTITUTE OF TECNOLOGY
and you are still barging about theory of evolution??
well that says a lot about you then

AshishDelhi said:

That is a theory.
What Gods have told us is that Adam and Eve were created some 10000 years back. Quite strange that in such relatively short span they have such vastly different looking humans.

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well i am not telling you a religious story my friend
it is a scientific theory that hold the answers..
just like gravity is a theory..!! you cant deny that rite

The Accountant said:

But last i remember darwin theory is even rejected by scientists based on the fact there are no intermediary species between baboons and humans ... if there is something as evaluation then there should be some intermediary ...

I dont think why do you people are so much anti religion ... the theory even rejected by scientists and you are condemning islam ...

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You remember wrong, Darwin's theory was never "rejected". First of all long before Darwin it was established that living beings evolve. Darwin's own grandfather was one of the pioneers of the theory of Evolution. Darwin explained what the mechanism for the above was, and so came his theory of evolution through natural selection. The theory proposed by Darwin has evolved over time, with the discovery of DNA helping scientists better understand how this actually happens.

About the baboons and humans example, baboons and humans are distant cousins evolved from same ancestors. I dont understand what intermediary species you are looking for in between them. If you are talking about the common ancestor and the species that they evolved into, there are many many fossils available. You just need to google.

malik_qasim said:

then i cant help you if you do not want to help your own sorry self
dear madni jihadi

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Please avoid calling names, and personal attacks

Khafee said:

No offense to Dr. Salam, but people give too much credit to the Nobel prize. It is way overrated.

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Professor Salam could have and should have won it twice, as a scientist he was up their with the likes of Weinberg. In regards to whether it is overrated or not, I honestly am not in a position to comment one way or another.Kudos

One claim suggest that my ancestors were monkeys and other suggests incest...
Do I have option yo reject them both?
I'd rather accept that alien theory or anything less insulting.

war&peace said:

That was an extra ordinary situation and still the discretion was maintained..Just read the Caine and Goliath story and you will know

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Chauvinist said:

Need to find the gene sequence behind all the phenomenon...
One more thing Their genome is same means.. The alphabets are same but reading pattern is different... Thek ?? Kahin pay wo ditto same read ho kar same protien ban rahi hoti hai kahin pay wo bohat zada differ kar jata hai Human se.

And it took no time.. All the researches are done on mouse... From A to Z.. Either these are drug testing are making an in vitro Organ...!! Mouse is the most favorite research animal..

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Kiddo I don't have time to get my nose engaged with attention seekers like you.. Keep your leg out of my way.. Thats good for you...!!! Otherwise it would be pulled badly...

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Lady you putting out scientific gibberish and then circumcising it
it do not go well with me, and this is a public forum.. Digest it or leave
i cant respect a man or a women who who is so irrationaly blind with faith

django said:

Professor Salam could have and should have won it twice, as a scientist he was up their with the likes of Weinberg. In regards to whether it is overrated or not, I honestly am not in a position to comment one way or another.Kudos

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You just said it yourself - as to why it's overrated.

Khafee said:

Please avoid calling names, and personal attacks

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comment abstained. ;-)

war&peace said:

Sir!!! Dr Atta-ur-Rehman has been awarded the second most prestigious award in science after the Nobel prize but awards are not what we should be focussing...I am talking about the publications and research. Dr Atta-ur-Rehman has ground breaking research in many field of chemistry and more 600 publications.
Now the list of Pakistani scientists is getting bigger.

I want to see some great articles from Pervaiz Hudhud.

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In regards to Hoodbhoy, he has not published anything in years, his protege Amer Iqbal is highly talked of as is Sabieh Anwar from LUMS.

Mrc said:

Darwin theory is a theory... means its not scientifiacally proven so far...
Survival of fitest does not explain why one species evolved into lion (predator) and another in deer (prey).. pleas also consider predator wont survive without prey...but prey can....heck with evolution

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The meaning of word theory is very different from the word theory that we used in conversations. Theory and Laws both are equally scientifically proven and tested, the difference is Law describes how something would happen. On the other hand theory explains why and how it happens. Read a little before you make any claims.

marbella said:

One claim suggest that my ancestors were monkeys and other suggests incest...
Do I have option yo reject them both?
I'd rather accept that alien theory or anything less insulting.

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your ancestors were not monkeys. You and monkeys just had a common ancestor.

malik_qasim said:

Lady you putting out scientific gibberish and then circumcising it
it do not go well with me, and this is a public forum.. Digest it or leave
i cant respect a man or a women who who is so irrationaly blind with faith

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Ohhh Man... I don't need to prove my scientific skills to an attention seeker..

And dude I know better what to do ... Who asked your advice Hmmm???

As I said earlier.. Don't come in my way.. Pachtao gay..!!!

pak-marine said:

mixing religion in education & state affairs and than we get surprised by the end product zombies

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The same thing is done with "religion and politics" and "religion and nationalism"... we should ask ourselves the basic question why an Ahmedi or Hindu cannot be patriotic towards Pakistan. Why do the mullahs blindly promote the meaning of our beloved Pakistan as a supra-islamic bastion rather than a state for equality for all, something even Jinnah stood for. This problem that Pakistan faces is of our own doing, our own feeding the mullahs who know nothing about science and the modern world. They do not even know anything about the libertarian nature of Islam and Ijtehad. Other than their own narrow minded thinking they know nothing. They are a plague upon society.

We also need to rethink our history and challenge the Pakistan studies curriculum. Pakistan wasn't created because Hindus and Muslims could not live together. It was created because the Indians gave us no choice and they imposed their beliefs on us, like cow slaughter ban. They even refused to let our provinces (muslim provinces) vote for their own representatives. The reason for partition was the desperation that muslims were in, not some supra Islamic goal. Jinnah was a staunch secularist.

WE have pushed religion down the throats of others. For years we have oppressed our fellow national Hindu, Ahmedi and Christian brothers in the name of religion. Until we re-adopt our initial secular roots we are doomed to be oppressors like the Indians were our oppressors. Sad state that society is a cult belonging to these mullahs and cannot see the damage they have done to us.