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India’s missile defence system can bankrupt Pakistan
30 May 2016 RAKESH KRISHNAN SIMHA
By ratcheting up spending in ballistic missile defence, India can apply the squeeze on the Pakistani economy.

SCO to consider Iran's accession after India, Pakistan
aad_launch_crop.jpg

India’s development of a missile defence system will complicate the Pakistani military’s war planning. Source:wikipedia.org

India’s claim that its indigenously designed ballistic missile defence (BMD) system – successfully tested on May 15 – can defend the country from a nuclear attack is being contested by a Russian expert.

According to Petr Topychkanov, Associate at the Carnegie Moscow Centre’s Non-Proliferation Programme, despite heavy investments in developing BMD systems, India may not be able to fully defend itself in a conflict from strikes by Pakistani missiles.

“Even in 10 years and with the huge budgets that India plans to spend on the development of nuclear weapons and capabilities, it is difficult to imagine it will be able to defend its territory from possible strikes from Pakistan in case of conflict,” he says.

Topychkanov’s observation isn’t wrong. Although India is now only the fourth country after Russia, Israel and the US to successfully test a BMD system, it is currently taking baby steps in ballistic missile development. BMD technologies are complicated and it will take years – and perhaps decades –before India gets a reliable system.

Even the superpowers with huge economic and technological resources at their disposal did not erect iron domes over their territories. During the Cold War, despite thousands of Russian nuclear-tipped missiles pointed at its cities and strategic nerve centres, the US abandoned its lone BMD site, in North Dakota. The Russians also built just one system, over Moscow, with the difference that it stands to this day.

In fact, Dmitri Rogozin, Russian Deputy Prime Minister responsible for the military-industrial complex, has declared: “Missile defence is an illusion – no matter how much money you invest in it.”

But Topychkanov’s opinion doesn’t provide the complete picture. India’s BMD programme is not a zero-sum project that will either protect the country or won’t. Rather, it is part of a strategic escalation that will have far-reaching geopolitical impact, especially on Pakistan.

Playing strategic chicken
A detailed study titled 'On the Strategic Value of Ballistic Missile Defence' by the French Institute of International Relations explains how BMD works to unhinge the enemy’s strategy. According to the study, BMD:

  • Creates uncertainty about the outcome of an attack in the mind of the attacker.
  • Increases the raid size required for an attack to penetrate, thereby, undermining a strategy of firing one or two and threatening more thus reducing coercive leverage.
  • Provides some assurance against risks of precipitate action by the aggressor.
  • Buys leadership time for choosing and implementing courses of action, including time for diplomacy.
  • Reduces the political pressure for pre-emptive strikes.
In short, a robust missile defence system helps to put the burden of escalation in an emerging crisis on to the adversary. When a crisis has become a hot war, then missile defence again has various strategic values. It:

*Helps to preserve freedom of action by selectively safeguarding key military and political assets.

*Increases time and opportunity to attack adversary's missile force with kinetic and non-kinetic means, potentially eliminating his capacity for follow-on attacks or decisive political or military effects.

Pakistan’s conundrum
India’s development of a missile defence system will complicate the Pakistani military’s war planning. The Indian Army’s Cold Start strategy, for instance, has put huge pressure on the Pakistani economy by forcing Islamabad to crank up the production of nuclear weapons as well as delivery systems such as ballistic, cruise and tactical missiles.


The latest Indian test is likely to create more insecurity in the Pakistani military establishment. A report by the World Politics Review, states: “India’s pursuit of strategic technologies, including BMD capabilities, has created extreme paranoia in the Pakistani defence and security establishment. Pakistan has already drastically increased its nuclear arsenal in recent years in response to India’s BMD efforts.”

Pakistan is not content with having an adequate number of nuclear weapons to deter India from launching an attack. It wants to match India nuke for nuke. The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists saysPakistan is on course to have the world’s fifth-largest inventory of nuclear weapons, and is spending more than $2.5 billion on nuclear weapons annually.

Given the Pakistani obsession with matching India weapon for weapon, it is likely Islamabad will try and develop a Made in Pakistan BMD. At the same time, it will attempt to buy systems from outside as a hedge against failure.

Either way the impact on the Pakistani economy will be immense. The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute lists India as the fifth largest military spender with an annual budget of $51 billion. In contrast Pakistan's military budget is a paltry $7.6 billion. In overall economic terms, India's GDP of $2 trillion is the seventh largest and dwarfs Pakistan's $269 billion economy which is ranked 41st in the world.

Considering such economic disparities, there’s no way Pakistan can match India missile for missile. Overspending on defence could well bankrupt Pakistan, especially in the backdrop of western economies no longer having the inclination or the capacity to bail it out as they did in the past.

Will Islamabad take the bait?
Pakistan’s military leadership is obsessed with growing its atomic arsenal to the detriment of its economy. Terrence P. Smith of the Centre for Strategic and International Studies says that for Pakistan, nuclear weapons have become a “psychological equaliser”.

Says the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists: “In working to double the size of its already substantial nuclear arsenal, Pakistan continues to place a disproportionate focus on its nuclear programme ahead of other key security concerns. This behaviour is far from new. In 1972, Pakistani President Zulfikar Ali Bhutto famously proclaimed, ‘Even if we have to eat grass we will make nuclear bombs’. Four decades later, Pakistan continues to pursue this strategy of nuclear build-up at any cost, thereby diverting resources away from other programmes that could attempt to address the country’s internal security and economic threats.”

India’s BMD could be the proverbial straw that breaks the back of the Pakistani camel.

Spinoffs for India
In 2013, a BMD radar in Armavir, in southern Russia, detected the launch of two ballistic missiles in the Mediterranean Sea, which later turned out to be part of Israel’s test of its missile defence shield. Russia has also begun testing a new radar, designed to detect highly manoeuverable aerial targets, including cruise missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles, at a range of up to 3,000 km. India’s BMD research could also take it

While any military spending is wasteful, it is a bit like paying insurance premiums – it hurts, but when there’s a crisis you are glad you had a policy. Besides the obvious benefits, missile defence research could have lucrative spinoffs. Russia’s extensive R&D in strategic missile defence led to the development of battlefield missile defence systems such as the S-300, S-400 and S-500, of which the first two are in great demand worldwide. Similarly, India can be an exporter of low cost battlefield missile defence systems.

In 2012 Russian President Vladimir Putin, explained how Russia’s defence sector could pull the rest of the economy out of the woods. “The renewal of the military industrial complex will become a locomotive that will pull the development of various industries: metallurgy, mechanical engineering, the chemical and radio-electronic industries, the entire [information technology] and telecommunications range. The task is to multiply Russia’s economic power, create an army and military-industrial complex that will secure Russia’s sovereignty, the respect of our foreign partners and lasting peace.”

Similar benefits could accrue to India through investments in BMD and the wider defence industry.

http://in.rbth.com/blogs/stranger_t...e-defence-system-can-bankrupt-pakistan_598529
 
Two absolute truths:

1. There will never be a nuclear war now or in the future.

2. No country can be 100% secure from BMDs however sophisticated. Some missiles will always be able to get through. And even one missile could spell disaster.
 
Its India spending money to develop Missile shield because of Fear of Pakistan Nuclear weapons.
Pakistan is not going to bank crypt,since we spend money where it is necessary instead of wasting billions on projects which ultimately fail to materialize.Be it Akash, Be it LCA, Be it Kewari, Be it Nirbhay, Be it Arjun.
Better worry about your starving nation instead of worrying how Pakistan will manage to neutralize this so called Ballistic Missile defense system which is still in very initial stage of development and testing....................
 
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well its obivous india is ahead of them but the pakistanis wont be complaing much. heck their missile can reach all of india with abm countermeasures cruise missiles and supposedly slcm's they only need abm' for the agni 2/3 and the shorter range prithvi missile. where the hq-19 would come in and the hq-9 for long aircraft.
so they coverd most aspects and all offensive missiles they only need abm's and long range sams which can be purchased of the shelf. once the economy is healthy then you can look at slbm's but thats beyond 2025​

Its India speeding money to develop Missile shield because of Fear of Pakistan Nuclear weapons.
Pakistan is not going to bank crypt,since we spend money where it is necessary instead of wasting billions on projects which ultimately fail to materialize.Be it Akash, Be it LCA, Be it Kewari, Be it Nirbhay, Be it Arjun.
Better worry about your starving nation instead of worrying how Pakistan will manage to neutralize this so called Ballistic Missile defense system which is still in very initial stage of development and testing....................
how do we know the babur and the raad is good how many failed launches have they not told us about?
 
Two absolute truths:

1. There will never be a nuclear war now or in the future.

2. No country can be 100% secure from BMDs however sophisticated. Some missiles will always be able to get through. And even one missile could spell disaster.

ANOTHER Truth is that launching a Nuke is NOT an easy decision at all

It cannot be done in as easy a manner as it is SAID here -- every other day

Will the Pakistani Elite leave the Country before launching nukes on India
 
The self serving and bravado of these Indian presstitudes is fu***** hilarious. Ask these morons, if not only matching Indian nuke program but surpassing it hasn't bankrupted Pakistan, the response to so called "indegenious" missile defence would be walk in the park.
 
India’s missile defence system can bankrupt Pakistan
30 May 2016 RAKESH KRISHNAN SIMHA
By ratcheting up spending in ballistic missile defence, India can apply the squeeze on the Pakistani economy.

SCO to consider Iran's accession after India, Pakistan
aad_launch_crop.jpg

India’s development of a missile defence system will complicate the Pakistani military’s war planning. Source:wikipedia.org

India’s claim that its indigenously designed ballistic missile defence (BMD) system – successfully tested on May 15 – can defend the country from a nuclear attack is being contested by a Russian expert.

According to Petr Topychkanov, Associate at the Carnegie Moscow Centre’s Non-Proliferation Programme, despite heavy investments in developing BMD systems, India may not be able to fully defend itself in a conflict from strikes by Pakistani missiles.

“Even in 10 years and with the huge budgets that India plans to spend on the development of nuclear weapons and capabilities, it is difficult to imagine it will be able to defend its territory from possible strikes from Pakistan in case of conflict,” he says.

Topychkanov’s observation isn’t wrong. Although India is now only the fourth country after Russia, Israel and the US to successfully test a BMD system, it is currently taking baby steps in ballistic missile development. BMD technologies are complicated and it will take years – and perhaps decades –before India gets a reliable system.

Even the superpowers with huge economic and technological resources at their disposal did not erect iron domes over their territories. During the Cold War, despite thousands of Russian nuclear-tipped missiles pointed at its cities and strategic nerve centres, the US abandoned its lone BMD site, in North Dakota. The Russians also built just one system, over Moscow, with the difference that it stands to this day.

In fact, Dmitri Rogozin, Russian Deputy Prime Minister responsible for the military-industrial complex, has declared: “Missile defence is an illusion – no matter how much money you invest in it.”

But Topychkanov’s opinion doesn’t provide the complete picture. India’s BMD programme is not a zero-sum project that will either protect the country or won’t. Rather, it is part of a strategic escalation that will have far-reaching geopolitical impact, especially on Pakistan.

Playing strategic chicken
A detailed study titled 'On the Strategic Value of Ballistic Missile Defence' by the French Institute of International Relations explains how BMD works to unhinge the enemy’s strategy. According to the study, BMD:

  • Creates uncertainty about the outcome of an attack in the mind of the attacker.
  • Increases the raid size required for an attack to penetrate, thereby, undermining a strategy of firing one or two and threatening more thus reducing coercive leverage.
  • Provides some assurance against risks of precipitate action by the aggressor.
  • Buys leadership time for choosing and implementing courses of action, including time for diplomacy.
  • Reduces the political pressure for pre-emptive strikes.
In short, a robust missile defence system helps to put the burden of escalation in an emerging crisis on to the adversary. When a crisis has become a hot war, then missile defence again has various strategic values. It:

*Helps to preserve freedom of action by selectively safeguarding key military and political assets.

*Increases time and opportunity to attack adversary's missile force with kinetic and non-kinetic means, potentially eliminating his capacity for follow-on attacks or decisive political or military effects.

Pakistan’s conundrum
India’s development of a missile defence system will complicate the Pakistani military’s war planning. The Indian Army’s Cold Start strategy, for instance, has put huge pressure on the Pakistani economy by forcing Islamabad to crank up the production of nuclear weapons as well as delivery systems such as ballistic, cruise and tactical missiles.


The latest Indian test is likely to create more insecurity in the Pakistani military establishment. A report by the World Politics Review, states: “India’s pursuit of strategic technologies, including BMD capabilities, has created extreme paranoia in the Pakistani defence and security establishment. Pakistan has already drastically increased its nuclear arsenal in recent years in response to India’s BMD efforts.”

Pakistan is not content with having an adequate number of nuclear weapons to deter India from launching an attack. It wants to match India nuke for nuke. The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists saysPakistan is on course to have the world’s fifth-largest inventory of nuclear weapons, and is spending more than $2.5 billion on nuclear weapons annually.

Given the Pakistani obsession with matching India weapon for weapon, it is likely Islamabad will try and develop a Made in Pakistan BMD. At the same time, it will attempt to buy systems from outside as a hedge against failure.

Either way the impact on the Pakistani economy will be immense. The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute lists India as the fifth largest military spender with an annual budget of $51 billion. In contrast Pakistan's military budget is a paltry $7.6 billion. In overall economic terms, India's GDP of $2 trillion is the seventh largest and dwarfs Pakistan's $269 billion economy which is ranked 41st in the world.

Considering such economic disparities, there’s no way Pakistan can match India missile for missile. Overspending on defence could well bankrupt Pakistan, especially in the backdrop of western economies no longer having the inclination or the capacity to bail it out as they did in the past.

Will Islamabad take the bait?
Pakistan’s military leadership is obsessed with growing its atomic arsenal to the detriment of its economy. Terrence P. Smith of the Centre for Strategic and International Studies says that for Pakistan, nuclear weapons have become a “psychological equaliser”.

Says the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists: “In working to double the size of its already substantial nuclear arsenal, Pakistan continues to place a disproportionate focus on its nuclear programme ahead of other key security concerns. This behaviour is far from new. In 1972, Pakistani President Zulfikar Ali Bhutto famously proclaimed, ‘Even if we have to eat grass we will make nuclear bombs’. Four decades later, Pakistan continues to pursue this strategy of nuclear build-up at any cost, thereby diverting resources away from other programmes that could attempt to address the country’s internal security and economic threats.”

India’s BMD could be the proverbial straw that breaks the back of the Pakistani camel.

Spinoffs for India
In 2013, a BMD radar in Armavir, in southern Russia, detected the launch of two ballistic missiles in the Mediterranean Sea, which later turned out to be part of Israel’s test of its missile defence shield. Russia has also begun testing a new radar, designed to detect highly manoeuverable aerial targets, including cruise missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles, at a range of up to 3,000 km. India’s BMD research could also take it

While any military spending is wasteful, it is a bit like paying insurance premiums – it hurts, but when there’s a crisis you are glad you had a policy. Besides the obvious benefits, missile defence research could have lucrative spinoffs. Russia’s extensive R&D in strategic missile defence led to the development of battlefield missile defence systems such as the S-300, S-400 and S-500, of which the first two are in great demand worldwide. Similarly, India can be an exporter of low cost battlefield missile defence systems.

In 2012 Russian President Vladimir Putin, explained how Russia’s defence sector could pull the rest of the economy out of the woods. “The renewal of the military industrial complex will become a locomotive that will pull the development of various industries: metallurgy, mechanical engineering, the chemical and radio-electronic industries, the entire [information technology] and telecommunications range. The task is to multiply Russia’s economic power, create an army and military-industrial complex that will secure Russia’s sovereignty, the respect of our foreign partners and lasting peace.”

Similar benefits could accrue to India through investments in BMD and the wider defence industry.

http://in.rbth.com/blogs/stranger_t...e-defence-system-can-bankrupt-pakistan_598529
now thats the worst kind of loud mouth yellow journalism by media presstitutes "gao bassa nahee chor pehle aa gye"

now how can a defensive weapon bankrupt another nation rather it will put some sense in warmongers in that nation and they will invest more in there own devlopment than thinking about agression on so called "enemy nation"

my requast to @WebMaster and @Manticore and other respected mods to close this thread :coffee:
 
Pakistan nahi hogaya kaam wali maasi ho gae. Jitna india walay missile system main invest kartay hain utna to Pakistan main aik siasatdan aik din main corruption karta hay.
 
The assumption is Pakistan will inexplicably rachet up our defence spending until it bresks us

Pakistan is a growing economy and as our economy grows so does our purchasing ability, look how much we have achieved on a few billion only


BMDs are no where near reliable not for the U.S, Russia, Israel let alone india with its hodgepodge of dodgy local maal and foreign missiles


Pakistan needs to develop marv, mirv and intelligent missile systems anyway this wont bankrupt us but keep us on track

Pakistan still has a little way to go to increase its air defence coverage but if HQ 9 is purchased it will provide some much needed cover


As indias BMD comes online so will the array of Pakistani counters
 
with deu respect sir i mean you on this and other forum said you are not Pakistani but a british national but here you are taking sides with pakistan ... so i ask then why you show only british flags in your DP .... SIR .... no offence
im not taking sides i have told of a pakistani user for trolling. i am saying my opinion
look at post 5 where i quoted the pakistani member
 
Pakistan actually believes and invests in smart solutions. For example when Indian had spent billions on Cold Start Doctrine and announced that its ready, Pakistan responded with a test of Nasr. That sent ripples in strategists in India and that prompted India to go for likes of S-400, even though its indigenous BMD program was already in on ground.
Morale of story is: Pakistan aint engaging in arms race with India but would keep on coming up with smart solutions when needed.
 
im not taking sides i have told of a pakistani user for trolling. i am saying my opinion
well its obivous india is ahead of them but the pakistanis wont be complaing much. heck their missile can reach all of india with abm countermeasures cruise missiles and supposedly slcm's they only need abm' for the agni 2/3 and the shorter range prithvi missile. where the hq-19 would come in and the hq-9 for long aircraft.
so they coverd most aspects and all offensive missiles they only need abm's and long range sams which can be purchased of the shelf. once the economy is healthy then you can look at slbm's but thats beyond 2025


OK sir i rest my case and got the answer but not using your nations flag is a sign of inferiorty complex low self esteem and for a senior meber its not good ... cheers mate no offence
 
well its obivous india is ahead of them but the pakistanis wont be complaing much. heck their missile can reach all of india with abm countermeasures cruise missiles and supposedly slcm's they only need abm' for the agni 2/3 and the shorter range prithvi missile. where the hq-19 would come in and the hq-9 for long aircraft.
so they coverd most aspects and all offensive missiles they only need abm's and long range sams which can be purchased of the shelf. once the economy is healthy then you can look at slbm's but thats beyond 2025


OK sir i rest my case and got the answer but not using your nations flag is a sign of inferiorty complex low self esteem and for a senior meber its not good ... cheers mate no offence
no problem pal.
 
Pakistan actually believes and invests in smart solutions. For example when Indian had spent billions on Cold Start Doctrine and announced that its ready, Pakistan responded with a test of Nasr. That sent ripples in strategists in India and that prompted India to go for likes of S-400, even though its indigenous BMD program was already in on ground.
Morale of story is: Pakistan aint engaging in arms race with India but
 

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