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China turns back Lao Airlines flight for failing to comply with ADIZ rules

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Finally China did play rough on its ADIZ. I wonder how they will apply on the SCS sea "freedom of navigation".

BTW I feel like this forum has become more like a quarelling ground. Let's post some more news here.
I don't think a lot of heads will turn if China leverages itself to enforce the ADIZ. They do have that right, as do other states of retaliating in equal. The real fireworks will begin when China takes the next step and blocks movement that is fully off its territory.
 
I don't think a lot of heads will turn if China leverages itself to enforce the ADIZ. They do have that right, as do other states of retaliating in equal. The real fireworks will begin when China takes the next step and blocks movement that is fully off its territory.
It has been quite sometimes since China declared ADIZ in ECC, and they finally took actions to prove their capability. At the same time they have live ammo drill in SCS, amid the rising tension (the ongoing case in IJC, Japan considering changing its policy, etc). Isn't that just adding oil to the fire?

Also there are countries not reconigzing China ADIZ (Lao is not one of them however). I can smell an international incident happening.
 
It has been quite sometimes since China declared ADIZ in ECC, and they finally took actions to prove their capability. At the same time they have live ammo drill in SCS, amid the rising tension (the ongoing case in IJC, Japan considering changing its policy, etc). Isn't that just adding oil to the fire?

Also there are countries not reconigzing China ADIZ (Lao is not one of them however). I can smell an international incident happening.
Nothing will happen .
 
A routine press conference of China Ministry of Defence on the 30th, the spokesman Yang Yujun said, recently a Laos airliner when flying over the East China Sea had entered China's airspace. It had subsequently been turn back by Chinese air traffic control. This matter had nothing to do with the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone.

国防部:1架外国客机擅自飞越中国领空被禁入境

2015年07月30日 17:13 来源:中国新闻网 

  中新网7月30日电 在30日的国防部例行记者会上,新闻发言人杨宇军表示,近期一架老挝客机途径东海时擅自飞越中国领空,被中国空管部门禁止入境,此事与中国东海防空识别区无关。

  有记者提问,上周有一架老挝客机在从韩国往老挝的飞行途中,途径东海地区,中方空管部门不许其进入中国的防空识别区,勒令其返回韩国。这是不是意味着中方在外国飞机进入东海防空识别区的问题上会采取类似的举动?

  杨宇军回应称,经向中国民航部门了解,老挝航空公司916航班的航线飞越中国领空,由于该航空公司临时飞行计划申请表述不清,中国民航部门多次 与其联系,但是都没有获得回应。7月25日早间,该航班在没有得到中方计划批复的情况下,擅自起飞并拟飞越中国领空。中国空管部门根据有关工作规定和程 序,禁止该航班入境。

  杨宇军强调,此事与中国东海防空识别区没有任何关系。如果还想了解进一步的情况,可以向民航部门去了解。
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Google Translate:

Department of Defense: a foreign aircraft flying over China's airspace without permission prohibited entry
At 17:13 on July 30, 2015 Source: China News Network

A routine press conference in the Ministry of Defence on the 30th, the spokesman Yang Yujun said the recent authorization of an airliner flying over Laos, East China's airspace when the route is prohibited from entering Chinese air traffic control authorities, this matter has nothing to do with the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone.

A reporter's question, Laos last week, an airliner in flight to Laos from South Korea, approach the ECS region, China's air traffic control authorities allowed it to enter China's air defense identification zone, ordered to return to Korea. Does this mean that the Chinese side on the issue of foreign aircraft to enter the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone will take similar action?

Yang Yujun responded that, after the Chinese civil aviation sector understanding, Lao Airlines 916 flight routes flying over China's airspace, as the airline plans to apply for a temporary lack of clarity flight, China repeatedly contacted the civil aviation sector, but did not get a response. July 25 morning, the flight was not the case in China plan approved, unauthorized take-off and intends to overflights Chinese airspace. Chinese air traffic control department under the work rules and procedures to ban the flight entry.

Yang Yujun emphasize that this has nothing to do with the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone. If you want to know further information, you can get to know the civil aviation sector.
 
It has been quite sometimes since China declared ADIZ in ECC, and they finally took actions to prove their capability. At the same time they have live ammo drill in SCS, amid the rising tension (the ongoing case in IJC, Japan considering changing its policy, etc). Isn't that just adding oil to the fire?

Also there are countries not reconigzing China ADIZ (Lao is not one of them however). I can smell an international incident happening.
Nobody needs to recognize our ADIZ. ADIZ is not territorial airspace. We didn't recognize Japan nor the US's ADIZ. It didn't stop them from sending military jet to intercept. Same wise, we will continue to sent military jet to intercept anyone entering our ADIZ without notifying us in advance. Thanks for your concern, my friend. LOL
 
Nobody needs to recognize our ADIZ. ADIZ is not territorial airspace. We didn't recognize Japan nor the US's ADIZ. It didn't stop them from sending military jet to intercept. Same wise, we will continue to sent military jet to intercept anyone entering our ADIZ without notifying us in advance. Thanks for your concern, my friend. LOL
Confusing! It's not territorial airspace, yet you have the right (you think you have) to deny access to whoever not follow your protocols. I thought if someone does not identify themselves in ADIZ, then they cannot enter China airspace. I don't know if Laos airline fly path pass through China airspace, but I believe Lao has already gave China their flight plan already.
 
Confusing! It's not territorial airspace, yet you have the right (you think you have) to deny access to whoever not follow your protocols. I thought if someone does not identify themselves in ADIZ, then they cannot enter China airspace. I don't know if Laos airline fly path pass through China airspace, but I believe Lao has already gave China their flight plan already.
You need to stop with your nonsense. It is our rights to intercept any aircraft that enter our ADIZ without prior notification. This is to protect our airspace but also to protect incoming aircraft from accident. Imagine a terrorist hijack an aircraft flying in our ADIZ toward our airspace. Of course in that situation, we will radio signal and immediately send jet to intercept. Without response, we will shoot it down.

Lao airline fly in our airspace without prior notification.
 
You need to stop with your nonsense. It is our rights to intercept any aircraft that enter our ADIZ without prior notification. This is to protect our airspace but also to protect incoming aircraft from accident. Imagine a terrorist hijack an aircraft flying in our ADIZ toward our airspace. Of course in that situation, we will radio signal and immediately send jet to intercept. Without response, we will shoot it down.

Lao airline fly in our airspace without prior notification.
As far as I understand ADIZ is not territorial airspace yet. There is nothing wrong with establishing an ADIZ to control aircraft coming and going. However, establishing over dispute area is just asking for trouble. Also your ADIZ needs to be recognized by others, and if I am not wrong, not that many countries actually takes your claim seriously.
 
As far as I understand ADIZ is not territorial airspace yet. There is nothing wrong with establishing an ADIZ to control aircraft coming and going. However, establishing over dispute area is just asking for trouble. Also your ADIZ needs to be recognized by others, and if I am not wrong, not that many countries actually takes your claim seriously.
Stop your double standard bullshit. Look at the Japanese ADIZ and tell me if it's fair for them to extend their ADIZ so close to our territorial airspace that we don't even have a breathing room. Our response is fair and square. You put your ADIZ close to us, we will do the same. Also, my friend, nobody care if an ADIZ is recognized by others. We didn't recognized Japan ADIZ either. When we create our ADIZ, our intention is clear. WE WILL START TO MONITOR INCOMING AIRCRAFT. So our advice is you notify us to prevent accident. Is that CLEAR?
 
Stop your double standard bullshit. Look at the Japanese ADIZ and tell me if it's fair for them to extend their ADIZ so close to our territorial airspace that we don't even have a breathing room. Our response is fair and square. You put your ADIZ close to us, we will do the same. Also, my friend, nobody care if an ADIZ is recognized by others. We didn't recognized Japan ADIZ either. When we create our ADIZ, our intention is clear. WE WILL START TO MONITOR INCOMING AIRCRAFT. So our advice is you notify us to prevent accident. Is that CLEAR?
Capslocking your reply doesn't make it anymore convincing. I seriously doubt that your ADIZ is simply an area to start monitoring. I bet it can become regular patrol flight area too.
 
Capslocking your reply doesn't make it anymore convincing. I seriously doubt that your ADIZ is simply an area to start monitoring. I bet it can become regular patrol flight area too.
Our ADIZ will be no different than the US's ADIZ.
 

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