Armata - Russia’s Top-Secret Battle Tank Captured on Video

Prechko said:

It`s first tank designed to be mass produced with unmanned turret rather than being just a demonstrator for starters.

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You mean a world,s first tank which do not need a crew for loading the gun shells?

SecularNationalist said:

It looks like an ordinary tank ,what,s so special about it?

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Unmanned turret. No other tank in the world has that feature. Apart from that the crew is locked together in one capsule away from ammo and fuel. Even if the turret gets penetrated or even the mid to aft part of the tank the crew should not be harmed.

ptldM3 said:

Unmanned turret. No other tank in the world has that feature. Apart from that the crew is locked together in one capsule away from ammo and fuel. If the turret gets penetrated or even the mid to aft part of the tank the crew should not be harmed.

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That,s great The brilliant russian minds never stopped to amaze me .
The americans and other NATO jokers call russians as drunkards but there are still few things they can only dream about and only the russians acheived those things.

SecularNationalist said:

You mean a world,s first tank which do not need a crew for loading the gun shells?

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It already uses a auto loader. So it has, unmanned turret, auto loader, and supposedly it should have blow away panels in case the ammo compartment is breached and it might also have the ARENA active protection system that defeats RPGs before they make contact with the tank.

There seem to be several expected design for the Armata tank
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And judging the "leaked" video of the Armata tank, the size of the cover over the turret seems to indicate that the new tank is based on or similar to the design of picture 2.

Cossack25A1 said:

There seem to be several expected design for the Armata tank
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And judging the "leaked" video of the Armata tank, the size of the cover over the turret seems to indicate that the new tank is based on or similar to the design of picture 2.

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one more design

SecularNationalist said:

That,s great The brilliant russian minds never stopped to amaze me .
The americans and other NATO jokers call russians as drunkards but there are still few things they can only dream about and only the russians acheived those things.

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Thats nothing. The Russians aren't the only ones to achieve this.

Oldman1 said:

Thats nothing. The Russians aren't the only ones to achieve this.

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Only three countries proved capable to make such platforms , Russia-US-Germany for now. No one denies US is capable to produce the same and it has.

Difference is Russia is first to make it beyond tech demonstrator to whole new level by actually mass producing it for armed forces.

Penguin said:

I wasn't talking about the Merkava.... see post #34.

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My bad..
Actually, from the #34 post, i can say that the engine will be in front..(if it is the armata) , as you can see that the exost system of engine is on the right side of the tank, it mostly happens when the engine is in front of the fighting vehicle..
You can check it on Puma, Tulpar and as we discussed, in Merkava..

ptldM3 said:

Unmanned turret. No other tank in the world has that feature. Apart from that the crew is locked together in one capsule away from ammo and fuel. Even if the turret gets penetrated or even the mid to aft part of the tank the crew should not be harmed.

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Prechko said:

Only three countries proved capable to make such platforms , Russia-US-Germany for now. No one denies US is capable to produce the same and it has.

Difference is Russia is first to make it beyond tech demonstrator to whole new level by actually mass producing it for armed forces.

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how About Japan? or France? i dont really think it is hard to make..

Prechko said:

Only three countries proved capable to make such platforms , Russia-US-Germany for now. No one denies US is capable to produce the same and it has.

Difference is Russia is first to make it beyond tech demonstrator to whole new level by actually mass producing it for armed forces.

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No, they are not the first to mass produce it.

Víðarr said:

I don't know. Is the Stryker MSG really in the same category as the Armata? If so then we'd have to included the Rooikat, AMX-10 and M1128 in this discussion too, and that just doesn't seem right.

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These aren't true tanks, kind of tank hybrids - commonly known as tank destroyers. They have the fire-power of tanks, the mobility of an IFV and the protection of an IFV, but their guns are less effective than an true tank and their armor and mobility less than an IFV.

The Stryker MSG and M1128 are bada** though!!!

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Talking about the turret itself with a big gun. Unmanned remote control with an autoloader as well as being mass produced.

Kamil_baku said:

how About Japan? or France? i dont really think it is hard to make..

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Probably they would be capable , but they didn`t make anything in that direction. Only US, Russia and Germany so far showed capability with tech demonstrators..

Oldman1 said:

No, they are not the first to mass produce it.

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I`m talking about MBT category.

USA , TTB based on M1 Abrams



Germany NGP-EGS (it has turret weight simulator not actual turret)



Soviet Union , project "Molot" (Hammer)



Russia , Object 195



This are known projects plus probably more existed but are classified info.

Stryker's crew inside the turret. So it can't be considered as an "unmanned turret"

Oldman1 said:

Talking about the turret itself with a big gun. Unmanned remote control with an autoloader as well as being mass produced.

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The Stryker is not a tank. It's an IFV, IFV's have had remotely controlled tower mounts for a long time. We are talking about a tank, no tank in production has an unmanned turret.


The Stryker is pretty similar in basic philosophy to the T-14's automated turret but there are differences, the Stryker does not appear have a ammunition bustle, the stryker also has a 105mm canon while the T-14 has a 125mm cannon, smaller cannon are lighter, smaller and have less recoil. Turrets with larger cannons have to deal with larger auto loaders, room is a problem, larger rounds, again room is a problem. Engineering a weapons bustle separate from the carousel. Now the challenge is actually putting everything together and still having a turret that is lighter and smaller then a manned turret.

Barmaley said:

Stryker's crew inside the turret. So it can't be considered as an "unmanned turret"

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Good find, for a moment it looked like the stryker turret was actually automated and controlled from a separate compartment. This is nothing like the T-14.

Our new tank will appear this year, too
Hope to give you guys a surprise.