First Block 2 JF-17s under construction in Pakistan
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I still have my opinion. I don't necessarily agree even with Oscar, but I don't want to argue this further.
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Do not know what the consequences will be with a fleet of 500 JF-17, all blocks included, with strong dedicated squadrons, Blocks 1 and 2 with current radar (a good one), and the next blocks with AESA radars on them. And this besides the other existing and potential platforms like more F-16s and the possibility of the M2K-9 from the UAE.
I know it will take a better economy than now , but Pakistan is heading straight towards that with the Gas pipeline with Iran, the Gwadar port and the massive investments in mega projects jointly with China.
The 500 number is not farfetched, since tiny Usrael has at least 600 modern warplanes in its inventory.
It will take around 10 billion dollars for these 500 JF-17s to be manufactured at an average cost of 18 million each, with accelerated production rates to up to 50 a year, the current potential with the current economy is up to 25 a year, with a better economy this rate can increase gradually to be doubled. When we see that KSA is paying 80 billion dollars for less than 100 warplanes, although they are the most advanced and sophisticated in the world currently as generation 4.5 or 4.75. The 10 billion dollars Pakistan can pay for these JF-17s, spread on 10 to 15 years is not that much and can be afforded if the choice is made, that is around 700 million to a billion Dollars a year, to build an almost (if not) invincible deterrent air force fleet.
And since air superiority is the key to wnning a war, I am all for it, and you Pakistanis?
I know it will take a better economy than now , but Pakistan is heading straight towards that with the Gas pipeline with Iran, the Gwadar port and the massive investments in mega projects jointly with China.
The 500 number is not farfetched, since tiny Usrael has at least 600 modern warplanes in its inventory.
It will take around 10 billion dollars for these 500 JF-17s to be manufactured at an average cost of 18 million each, with accelerated production rates to up to 50 a year, the current potential with the current economy is up to 25 a year, with a better economy this rate can increase gradually to be doubled. When we see that KSA is paying 80 billion dollars for less than 100 warplanes, although they are the most advanced and sophisticated in the world currently as generation 4.5 or 4.75. The 10 billion dollars Pakistan can pay for these JF-17s, spread on 10 to 15 years is not that much and can be afforded if the choice is made, that is around 700 million to a billion Dollars a year, to build an almost (if not) invincible deterrent air force fleet.
And since air superiority is the key to wnning a war, I am all for it, and you Pakistanis?
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Underestimation of BVRs I must say. The ranges you mentioned is correct (20-25 km) when the fight happens at very low level. There is a high chance of exchanging blows well in higher altitudes which will be the preference of heavy air superiority fighters who gave top cover. Forget the RCS, any shot less than 45 km is a dangerous one, however all good pilot choose to come as close as possible in maximum speed to get the Non escape zone widens. Even the on board radar+ tail chase range of most BVRs will be 10-15 km.
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No problem your opinion heard, do understand this time no arab, iranian or some other air force is going to send their inventory to help us out. Whatever PAF has would be used to its fullest potential in various roles/scenarios against anything IAF sends across the border.
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Not an under estimation of BVR.. The whole new era of fifth generation(f22,f35,pmf,j20....) is based on BVR theory.. See early, approach as near as possible without detection, ensure a kill with bvr, make incoming missiles blind by stopping radar activities..etc etc..
But here the scenario is different.. Both jft and su 30 are non stealth.. Claiming killing su30 first only because of its RCS makes no sense.. I countered that.. Then what is the need of such an expensive plane in such big numbers..
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We got a little Air Force and a little Navy only thing which keeps us going is some of our Tech and Training.
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yup jf-17 is 4th generation jet and we are not under estimate mki ... we know mki is better and bigger aircraft with good load ... but dear you are don't under estimate JF-17 thunder abilities...
PAF trying to include all latest and good load in jf-17 thunder which will be used in future
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Yeah right
190~ interceptors
130~ mirage 3 5 multirole fighters
78 F16 fighting falcons Blk52 and MLU
and 60~ JF17 multirole Fighters and counting
Thats really tiny
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That still small compare to USA, Russia or even China.
Bro the medium size which we need now at this time of Destruction is at least 600 jets.+ upgraded and crew Well Trained.
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The topic is not comparison and numbers, PAF is not projected to be a Global Force used for any Invasion or Intl War aspirations.
However PAF is modernizing upgrading being a regional force to protect its Nation and Assets and fight any misadventure from across the borders.
North Korea has 1200+ Aircrafts all vintage would you consider it into top 15?
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It's been 10 months since Block-1 production ended.
Blk-2 will be made in Pakistan not in china.
So the 50-50-50 production schedule has not been changed?
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When you know about such arrangement, what was your purpose of asking, " how many blk 2 will be made by CAC in China " ?
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