Can Saudi Arabia Create an Indigenous Defense Industry?

[AmirPatriot]

If we HAD to and were forced to do reverse engineering of mostly Russian, North Korean, Ukrainian weaponry (nothing that we created) we could very well be in the same boot as Iran.

Maybe. But a better idea would be to cultivate your domestic industry while you have access to foreign cooperation. The sooner the better.

(nothing that we created)

Sounds like you are saying none of Iran's weapons are designed by itself. We may utilise reverse engineering, but your statement is inaccurate as we do have an extensive number of our own designs.

Maybe because its old news or inaccurate? Not the first time that we see nonsense reports is it?

Maybe it is old news, (it isn't inaccurate as that source is the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency) but it strikes me as odd that a country would order 600,000 20 mm shells just a few short years before it made its own. If you provided a date with source of when Saudi started making 20 mm ammunition that would be helpful.

Syria, Iraq, Egypt and a few other Arab countries were more developed militarily than Iran less than 20 decades ago.

No sanctions.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

antonov did all the world and ksa get some credit

The same ignorant barking illiterate idiot with his moronic one-liners.

I guess those Saudi Arabian engineers directly involved in the project fell down from the sky in the middle of the winter somewhere in Ukraine, right?

As did this joint project:

This was an important step towards creating an competent indigenous aerospace industry.

Antonov rolls out An-132 demonstrator ​

20 DECEMBER, 2016

SOURCE: FLIGHTGLOBAL.COM

BY: STEPHEN TRIMBLE

WASHINGTON DC
Antonov rolled out the new An-132D multipurpose turboprop transport on 20 December in Kiev, Ukraine, as the SaudiaArabia-backed project prepares to enter the flight test phase.

The roll-out of demonstrator comes about two years after Antonov launched the project, which updates the 40-year-old An-32 design with Honeywellavionics, Pratt & Whitney Canada PW150A engines and other improvements.

Assembly of the first aircraft is in Ukraine, but series manufacturing will transition to Riyadh, with the involvement of Taqnia Aeronautics and the King Abdulaziz City for Science and Technology. The Kingdom owns a 50% share of the intellectual property invested in the design of the An-132.

The An-132 is designed to carry up to 8t of cargo at altitudes up to 28,000ft. It comes equipped a suite of updated technologies, including Dowty propellers and a Liebherr air management system.

The development programme has helped Antonov survive amidst the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, the company’s former biggest customer and still a major supplier. Attending the event in Kiev included leaders of both countries involved in the An-132D programme — Ukraine president Petro Poroshenko and Saudi Arabia’s prince Turki Saud Mohammed Al Saud.

For Saudia Arabia, the programme is part of a larger effort to develop an indigenous aerospace industry ranging from supply parts to assembly aircraft.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/antonov-rolls-out-an-132-demonstrator-432607/

Why do I even bother wasting my time on those clowns?

 

[Awan68]

The caliphate went to baghdad during the time of the first 4 caliphs, and the ottomans were turks if u wanna talk ethinicity and do i need to post pics of pakistani trainers instructing ur army, u have no capability beta accept that fact, judging from the fact that u decided to completely snub my discussion on the alsaud family it seems im talking to a pro al saud family asshole, well here's a fact u incompitent idiot we will depose ur stupid alsaud family when the time comes and it will probably take us 3-4 days, u camel jockeys cant even handle a rag tag bunch of yememi houthis and talking big about capability..

It belongs to those who build those empires and caliphates and ruled them which were people from modern-day KSA and Arabia mostly.

I don't care if you claim to be a Pakistani Arab or whatever you have written (I did not read). What I do react to are unmotivated insults and idiotic trolls talking mumbo jumpo on topics that they have absolutely no clue about.

I provided sources throughout the entire discussion which none of the trolls with their empty and moronic mumbo jumpo have done so far. There is nothing to discuss.

 

[Attila the Hun]

In 2012, Saudi Arabia had a weighted fractional count (WFC) of 52.84 in the index, sitting behind Turkey, Iran, Mexico, Chile and South Africa. In four years it rose 86.8% to reach a WFC of 98.67, leapfrogging all these countries to compete with Chile and Argentina globally. Saudi Arabia ranks at number 31 in the world in terms of WFC — up from 39 in 2012.

This is wrong. Saudi Arabia is a poor backward hellhole.

 

[theman111]

Arabs are nothing without Oil. This is the truth.
Be thankful for cheap Indian labour too.

you right

 

[Russell]

You got rid of stupid and despicable (learn to spell) Bangalis after getting your butts handed to you. Then again, you lot seem to love rewriting history and 'Alternative Facts' are all the rage atm

 

[Saif al-Arab]

antonov did all the world and ksa get some credit

The same ignorant barking illiterate idiot with his moronic one-liners.

I guess those Saudi Arabian engineers directly involved in the project fell down from the sky in the middle of the winter somewhere in Ukraine, right?

As did this joint project:

This was an important step towards creating an competent indigenous aerospace industry.

Antonov rolls out An-132 demonstrator ​

20 DECEMBER, 2016

SOURCE: FLIGHTGLOBAL.COM

BY: STEPHEN TRIMBLE

WASHINGTON DC
Antonov rolled out the new An-132D multipurpose turboprop transport on 20 December in Kiev, Ukraine, as the SaudiaArabia-backed project prepares to enter the flight test phase.

The roll-out of demonstrator comes about two years after Antonov launched the project, which updates the 40-year-old An-32 design with Honeywellavionics, Pratt & Whitney Canada PW150A engines and other improvements.

Assembly of the first aircraft is in Ukraine, but series manufacturing will transition to Riyadh, with the involvement of Taqnia Aeronautics and the King Abdulaziz City for Science and Technology. The Kingdom owns a 50% share of the intellectual property invested in the design of the An-132.

The An-132 is designed to carry up to 8t of cargo at altitudes up to 28,000ft. It comes equipped a suite of updated technologies, including Dowty propellers and a Liebherr air management system.

The development programme has helped Antonov survive amidst the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, the company’s former biggest customer and still a major supplier. Attending the event in Kiev included leaders of both countries involved in the An-132D programme — Ukraine president Petro Poroshenko and Saudi Arabia’s prince Turki Saud Mohammed Al Saud.

For Saudia Arabia, the programme is part of a larger effort to develop an indigenous aerospace industry ranging from supply parts to assembly aircraft.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/antonov-rolls-out-an-132-demonstrator-432607/

Why do I even bother wasting my time on those clowns?

The caliphate went to baghdad during the time of the first 4 caliphs, and the ottomans were turks if u wanna talk ethinicity and do i need to post pics of pakistani trainers instructing ur army, u have no capability beta accept that fact, judging from the fact that u decided to completely snub my discussion on the alsaud family it seems im talking to a pro al saud family asshole, well here's a fact u incompitent idiot we will depose ur stupid alsaud family when the time comes and it will probably take us 3-4 days, u camel jockeys cant even handle a rag tag bunch of yememi houthis and talking big about capability..

So what if it went to Baghdad (An Arab and Semitic city already inhabited by Arabs before Islam)? We conquered half of the known world after all.

Ottomans ruled the Caliphate for 400 years. Arabs for almost 1 millennia. KSA trains with almost every country of worth. It proves nothing that a few Pakistani trainers trained a few 18-20 something old trainees.

Anyway keep dreaming "Wannabe Arab". Sweet dreams and all.

This is wrong. Saudi Arabia is a poor backward hellhole.

Of course. However what is the reality is you being an Turkish imposter who does not even write or speak Turkish. You have been found out by many Turkish users here already. Probably some Indian false-flagger or God knows what.

We have an Turkish imposter, some "Israeli" who struggles to write basic English, some Bangladeshi in the US being ridiculed publicly and an "Pakistani Arab". PDF.

Translate what is being said in this video, false-flagger:

 

[theman111]

This is wrong. Saudi Arabia is a poor backward hellhole.

you right they have long way to go to reach 10% of turkish tech that made alone with no other countire help

 

[Attila the Hun]

you right they have long way to go to reach 10% of turkish tech that made alone with no other countire help

Saudi Arabia rely on outside help for their tech. Turkey has to work on their own.

 

[theman111]

Saudi Arabia rely on outside help for their tech. Turkey has to work on their own.

yes but some time its good to do joint venture to save money and exchange knowladge

 

[SOHEIL]

Oh cmon ...

 

[Attila the Hun]

The same ignorant barking illiterate idiot with his moronic one-liners.

I guess those Saudi Arabian engineers directly involved in the project fell down from the sky in the middle of the winter somewhere in Ukraine, right?

As did this joint project:

This was an important step towards creating an competent indigenous aerospace industry.

Antonov rolls out An-132 demonstrator ​

20 DECEMBER, 2016

SOURCE: FLIGHTGLOBAL.COM

BY: STEPHEN TRIMBLE

WASHINGTON DC
Antonov rolled out the new An-132D multipurpose turboprop transport on 20 December in Kiev, Ukraine, as the SaudiaArabia-backed project prepares to enter the flight test phase.

The roll-out of demonstrator comes about two years after Antonov launched the project, which updates the 40-year-old An-32 design with Honeywellavionics, Pratt & Whitney Canada PW150A engines and other improvements.

Assembly of the first aircraft is in Ukraine, but series manufacturing will transition to Riyadh, with the involvement of Taqnia Aeronautics and the King Abdulaziz City for Science and Technology. The Kingdom owns a 50% share of the intellectual property invested in the design of the An-132.

The An-132 is designed to carry up to 8t of cargo at altitudes up to 28,000ft. It comes equipped a suite of updated technologies, including Dowty propellers and a Liebherr air management system.

The development programme has helped Antonov survive amidst the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, the company’s former biggest customer and still a major supplier. Attending the event in Kiev included leaders of both countries involved in the An-132D programme — Ukraine president Petro Poroshenko and Saudi Arabia’s prince Turki Saud Mohammed Al Saud.

For Saudia Arabia, the programme is part of a larger effort to develop an indigenous aerospace industry ranging from supply parts to assembly aircraft.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/antonov-rolls-out-an-132-demonstrator-432607/

Why do I even bother wasting my time on those clowns?



So what if it went to Baghdad (An Arab and Semitic city already inhabited by Arabs before Islam)? We conquered half of the known world after all.

Ottomans ruled the Caliphate for 400 years. Arabs for almost 1 millennia. KSA trains with almost every country of worth. It proves nothing that a few Pakistani trainers trained a few 18-20 something old trainees.

Anyway keep dreaming "Wannabe Arab". Sweet dreams and all.



Of course. However what is the reality is you being an Turkish imposter who does not even write or speak Turkish. You have been found out by many Turkish users here already. Probably some Indian false-flagger or God knows what.

We have an Turkish imposter, some "Israeli" who struggles to write basic English, some Bangladeshi in the US being ridiculed publicly and an "Pakistani Arab". PDF.

Translate what is being said in this video, false-flagger:

I am not Indian. I can assure you. I am Turkish and proud of it
I don't need to write in Turkish to prove you anything, and I don't speak with any Turkish member on here. the Turkish section is shit.

 

[Attila the Hun]

yes but some time its good to do joint venture to save money and exchange knowladge

True, Turkey does need help from other nations that are more advanced than us

 

[Saif al-Arab]

I am not Indian. I can assure you. I am Turkish and proud of it
I don't need to write in Turkish to prove you anything, and I don't speak with any Turkish member on here. the Turkish section is shit.

You have been found out. You also ignored my post in that other thread that got deleted. I have known you being an non-Turk for a long time but there was no need to tell that publicly as no Turkish user here takes you seriously and as you say, you do not interact with them.

Why? Because you do not speak or write Turkish and you are most likely a non-Turk troll/false-flagger.

Reminds me of Hurshit and his "Arab" (Saudi Arabian) and "Israeli" aliases.

As I said, translate what is said in this video below.

You dumb little moron. You think that the horde of low IQ idiots on this forum can fool me or play around me even for 1 single second?

You can join hands with your one-liner English and Israeli (of course) professor @theman111 .

 

[SOHEIL]

Why are you commenting on topics that you have no clue about? What is your source of KSA not manufacturing ammunition locally and all the other undocumented nonsense?

As for "catching up with Iran" there is hardly any catching up to do and to be frank, Iran is one of the last countries to emulate. Stop joking.

I will be back answering this thread in a few minutes.

LOL