Chinese UAV News & Discussions (Strictly)

[DJ_Viper]

If compared, the MQ-9 Reaper, which has been in service since 2007, can fly for 27 hours, and has a wingspan of 20 meters. China says that it is ready not only to export the drone, but also to license the technology to make it.

Does the above mean that as always, Pakistan will be the first customer? In my opinion, getting TOT under license to build this internally in Pakistan, will setup a very advance drone industry, and unlike others (US, China, Israel), your baseline become a mature operational system and you grow from there. Such initiatives save hundreds of millions or even billions in wasted R&D. That's a heck of a proposal and allows to setup internal higher end drone manufacturing.

 

[cirr]

The “infiltrator”

Dimentions：2160mm*470mm*600mm

Expected flight distance：full load＞30KM

Maximum speed：＞ 160KM/H

Li-polyster batteries：31000ma（*2）

Complex duration of glight：＞ 40min（the export-oriented＜30min）

Flight radius：30KM

Can be mounted：small-size accurate guided tactical combat weapon system

Small SMART weapon system applications:

Counter-terrorism, Counter-riot, Special operations, Armed patrol, Attackto-ground, Reconnonssance.

Strength：

1、Counter-terrorism, small tactical combat, special operations.

2、Good stealthiness, strong survivability, sharp assult and rigid fighting capacity.

3、Free from the restrictions of human's limitation, and to the largest extent, suit the demands of combat operations.

4、Multi-operating models of sutomatic and manual.

5、Fast dispatch: easy portable so that it can take off and get into the operations in 2 minutes.

6、Effective electric scouting information support.

7、Loading small TV-command-guided accurate strike weapon system.

 

[Zhu Rong Zheng Yang]

I beleive you, but that crap is not something China should put up with ... ...

That is something being decided by some idiot in Washington. ... ... this idiotic treaty

NOTE: I am afraid some Mod -- who is working to protect usa will come and delete this post.
That Mod, please stand up, and identify yourself.
Thus all PDF members will know which Mod is working to protect usa.

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Thanks so much for pointing this out. I absolutely agree with you.

When it comes to facing the usa demands, so many Chinese be it government officials or private CEOs and businesses are embarrassingly acting with such weakened knees and acting very cowardly against usa.
-- Too many Chinese are too willing to kowtow to the demands of these Low Lifers in Washington.
-- Such as PRC participating in sanctioning North Korea in March 2016 at the height of dispute with american in SCS.

Yet, usa is still smilingly and smirkingly installing THAAD in South Korea.

There are still too many Chinese who are clinging to this idiotic concept of PRC as a ( responsible stakeholder ) based upon Rules and Restrictions setup by washington and their supporting slaves.

Look, how many FON has already happened. 4x, yet PRC leadership are afraid to confront usa directly.
At the height of SCS conflict, PRC is even allowing usn ships to have their R&R holidays in ShangHai and HongKong. -- This cowardly PRC act is frankly very, very embarrassing.

The Low Lifers in washington do not have the guts to perform the same FON against Russia.

Thus, I am personally always admiring ( PUTIN, and RUSSIA, and RUSSIANS ) plus ( IRAN + IRANIANS with limited weapons ) -- whenever they stand up and fiercely counter attack usa aggressions and bullyings.

I wish PRC collective leadership can quickly show the world these kind of pictures below.


us navy are cowardly kneeling in front of our Super Brave IRANIAN brothers

 

[zestokryl]

Look, how many FON has already happened. 4x, yet PRC leadership are afraid to confront usa directly.

Dear, I think there are reasons to this, maybe over servility , as one could adress it ...

Dont forget dollar is only global currency and the USA is most lucrative global market, due to the fact, USA is the only country entitled to print dollars. China, sadly, still cant ignore USA global role since, its highly dependant of exports, and no other market can substitute USA, and probably wont in maybe next 10 years

Look what happened to USSR. It was dragged in arms race which lead to the total economy exhaust. USSR made moves, you could compare to improving the roof and walls, while foundation were still weal. Have a feeling as if China is after very strong foundations, and thats impossible without strong economy. China, already has a strong economy, but due to the numerous population , military, technology and infrastructure expends , in chinese case, there is always next step in capital accumulation, since no matter how big, no money pile is enough nowadays

China expands its influence, through granting loans for infrastructure projects, various donations etc. Also, China founded, pacific devoplopment bank under own control. There cant be a fast lane in the path of global supremacy. since adversary (USA) is very strong , and, global finances are working for them. Just look at the EU, South America, Japan, they are all their colonies

Through technology improvements, and settling domestic infrastructure, health care etc, China is going to get rid of connection to the USA market, and yuan will eventually turn to global currency with big stake in global transactions. Thats the only way to beat the USA, through finances. Militarily , beating them is going to be piece of cake

The good thing is , unmanned technologies are the indicator of the chinese tech advancements. It would be a very good thing if China, somehow acquire DRAM and FLASH facilities. That would keep tens of billions of dollars, annually from being drained outside, the country in the process of manufacturing consumer electronics. That stands for every other tech fields, and all manufacturing departments, with substantial profit margin

 

[Beast]

After USA, the best drone comes from China. Not even Israel comes close. They used to be a leader but small countries with limited funds and manpower has its limit.

We have large number of proven heavy load UCAV with multiple strikes and success kill while Israel struggle to come out one to match China.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

its a beautiful bird and looks very powerful.
Everything is good for rest of the world is Bad News for india.. matter fact india is bad news for the world.

 

[Deino]

After USA, the best drone comes from China. Not even Israel comes close. They used to be a leader but small countries with limited funds and manpower has its limit.

We have large number of proven heavy load UCAV with multiple strikes and success kill while Israel struggle to come out one to match China.

The issue is simply that Israel's UACV-drones are kept so much secret that really not many even know their existence. The fact that Israeli drones are not widely used and exported other than for recce missions does not mean they are not operational. IMO a severe misinterpretation to underestimate anything in regard of Israel's armed forces.

Deino

 

[Beast]

The issue is simply that Israel's UACV-drones are kept so much secret that really not many even know their existence. The fact that Israeli drones are not widely used and exported other than for recce missions does not mean they are not operational. IMO a severe misinterpretation to underestimate anything in regard of Israel's armed forces.

Deino

That is just a perception based on 10 years ago with no link to current situation of 2016 where fast rising and combat proven China UCAV. Unless you show me video of Israel UCAV carries out strike or drop bomb in real life combat.

Chinese has also demonstrated large number of heavy UCAV ,abilities to carry out precision strike. Zhuhai 2016 airshow even push another step further with large number of more modern and heavy UCAV which Israel is lacking.

What you are trying to demonstrate is just like using 10 years ago economy data and say China is still world third largest economy in 2016...

 

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[Khafee]

AVIC's turbojet-powered Cloud Shadow UAV emerges
Kelvin Wong, Zhuhai, China - IHS Jane's International Defence Review
08 November 2016

The Cloud Shadow UAV bears a striking resemblance to the General Atomics Predator C Avenger platform, although it does not appear to possess the same level of performance. (IHS/Kelvin Wong)

The Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) unveiled the Cloud Shadow, a turbojet-powered, medium/high-altitude long-endurance unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) at the Airshow China 2016 exposition, which was held in the southern city of Zhuhai from 1 to 6 November.

Developed by AVIC's Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) subsidiary, the export-oriented Cloud Shadow is available in two configurations: the armed reconnaissance model, which has a maximum speed of 550 km/h but a payload capacity of 400 kg, and six underwing hardpoints for external stores; and a dedicated intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) platform, which features a higher maximum speed of 620 km/h but can only carry a 200 kg payload comprising communication, and radar surveillance equipment, or high-definition photo-reconnaissance systems.

The ISR and armed reconnaissance variants are similarly equipped with a synthetic aperture radar (SAR) for improved moving target tracking performance, although only the latter carries a belly-mounted electro-optical/infrared (EO/IR) sensor turret for target designation and post-strike battle-damage assessment (BDA).



Both platforms share the same 9 m long and 3.66 m tall airframe that appears to draw some degree of inspiration from the US-made General Atomics Aeronautical Systems Predator C Avenger platform, with a mid-mounted wing design that spans 17.8 m and features a forward-swept trailing edge on the inboard section tapering to a constant chord outer section, although the Cloud Shadow's wings are swept back only about 10° compared with the Avenger's more pronounced 17° sweep. However, unlike Avenger the Cloud Shadow is not equipped with an internal stores bay.

The Cloud Shadow is also equipped with V tail surfaces and a dorsally mounted pod for its propulsion system. This was revealed by AVIC to be the WP11C turbojet engine, a "modernised and refined" version of the original WP11 system developed by the Beijing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics (BUAA) for unmanned aircraft applications.

http://www.janes.com/article/65345/avic-s-turbojet-powered-cloud-shadow-uav-emerges

 

[Beast]