CHINA RACING AHEAD OF INDIA IN AIRCRAFT CARRIER DEVELOPMENT

[Rajaraja Chola]

Vikrant is slated to be ready by 2018. China has industrial capacity hence no surprise.

What I find extremely funny is Pakistan taking pride in China's achievements when they don't even have a corvette on order.

Actually Zarvan is one guy who is really interested in Defence stuff. So I wont blame him.

 

[spectribution]

Actually Zarvan is one guy who is really interested in Defence stuff. So I wont blame him.

Typical Pakistani mentality. Indians are a bunch of lentil eating untermensch while they are Mard e Momin of a parallel universe.

 

[Penguin]

Facts:

• both India and China have a single operational carrier
• both India and China have another one building.
• While China's second carrier closely follows the design of Kuznetsov/Varyag/Liaoning, India's second carrier is from the ground up a new design
• Both India and China are contemplating additional carriers, possibly with catapults
  
• Both India and China are developing naval fighters / carrier aviation
• Tejas is a light aircraft, J-15 a heavy aircraft.
  
• While China may have a J-15 fitted for catapult launch, that doesn't mean it has an (near) operational catapult system
  
• While Tejas isn't yet fitted with a catapult launch oriented nose wheel, there is the possibility of acquisition of catapult compatible naval aviation from elsewhere (F/A-18, F35C)

It is hard to tell who's ahead on this basis.

 

[royalharris]

Facts:

• both India and China have a single operational carrier
• both India and China have another one building.
• While China's second carrier closely follows the design of Kuznetsov/Varyag/Liaoning, India's second carrier is from the ground up a new design
• Both India and China are contemplating additional carriers, possibly with catapults
  
• Both India and China are developing naval fighters / carrier aviation
• Tejas is a light aircraft, J-15 a heavy aircraft.
  
• While China may have a J-15 fitted for catapult launch, that doesn't mean it has an (near) operational catapult system
  
• While Tejas isn't yet fitted with a catapult launch oriented nose wheel, there is the possibility of acquisition of catapult compatible naval aviation from elsewhere (F/A-18, F35C)

It is hard to tell who's ahead on this basis.

No,India is ahead,are you happy?
What lovely guys!

 

[Penguin]

No,India is ahead,are you happy?
What lovely guys!

Dear noob, I'm not Indian. I don't give a whoot if China is ahead of India or vice versa, so long as you guys duke it out over there and not disturb the rest of the world while doing it.

 

[royalharris]

Dear noob, I'm not Indian. I don't give a whoot if China is ahead of India or vice versa, so long as you guys duke it out over there and not disturb the rest of the world while doing it.

I don't care wherever you come from, we don't care whatever the other thinks about it,to be honest,we enjoy being underestimated especially for military!just be happy!

 

[Penguin]

I don't care wherever you come from, we don't care whatever the other thinks about it,to be honest,we enjoy being underestimated especially for military!just be happy!

If you have nothing sensible to add to the discussion, please leave. This forum does not need more idiotic posts by various nationalists.

 

[Akasa]

Facts:

• both India and China have a single operational carrier
• both India and China have another one building.
• While China's second carrier closely follows the design of Kuznetsov/Varyag/Liaoning, India's second carrier is from the ground up a new design
• Both India and China are contemplating additional carriers, possibly with catapults
  
• Both India and China are developing naval fighters / carrier aviation
• Tejas is a light aircraft, J-15 a heavy aircraft.
  
• While China may have a J-15 fitted for catapult launch, that doesn't mean it has an (near) operational catapult system
  
• While Tejas isn't yet fitted with a catapult launch oriented nose wheel, there is the possibility of acquisition of catapult compatible naval aviation from elsewhere (F/A-18, F35C)

It is hard to tell who's ahead on this basis.

It depends on what you define as "ahead".

Areas favoring India:
- India has decades' worth of carrier aviation experience, whilst the PLAN has not had any until September 2011.
- India has more MiG-29Ks in service than China has J-15s.
- India has access to a variety of resources from both its Western partners and Russia.

Areas favoring China:
- India's carrier design may be indigenous, but I highly doubt that the Chinese carrier is a carbon copy of the Kuznetsov either; it is also worthy to mention that the subsystems aboard the Chinese carrier should be wholly indigenous (the same cannot be said of the Vikrant).
- Chinese carriers are markedly larger than their Indian counterparts (although that is somewhat offset by the sheer size of the J-15).
- A suspected prototype of an EMALS catapult has been spotted in China.

 

[Penguin]

It depends on what you define as "ahead".

As indicated before, I am not interested in 'ahead' or 'behind' in this context. I'm more interested in what is today, and what will be in the medium-long term.

 

[LeGenD]

Chinese industrial capability and economy are superior. These are contributing factors.

 

[Beast]

aircraft carriers haven't faced a real threat since WW2, I can see both China and India knocking each other carriers out early in a war.

China Aircraft carrier is to bomb small countries back by American trying to be naughty to China. It is not used to fight major power.

Facts:

• both India and China have a single operational carrier
• both India and China have another one building.
• While China's second carrier closely follows the design of Kuznetsov/Varyag/Liaoning, India's second carrier is from the ground up a new design
• Both India and China are contemplating additional carriers, possibly with catapults
  
• Both India and China are developing naval fighters / carrier aviation
• Tejas is a light aircraft, J-15 a heavy aircraft.
  
• While China may have a J-15 fitted for catapult launch, that doesn't mean it has an (near) operational catapult system
  
• While Tejas isn't yet fitted with a catapult launch oriented nose wheel, there is the possibility of acquisition of catapult compatible naval aviation from elsewhere (F/A-18, F35C)

It is hard to tell who's ahead on this basis.

India vikrant is based on Italian carrier and design.

China Type 001a internal is fully new design unlike varyag. No missile compartment inside the hull and fully maximize the hangar space.

Type 001a is far larger and deck is much bigger (65000tons) while India carrier is much smaller(40000tons).
Meaning smaller deck and smaller hangar which can caused a lot of restriction and decrease efficiency of carrier operation.

 

[Loft38]

We also don't have at least 40% of the ENTIRE Earth's severely malnourished and extreme poor living in our country:

The above accolade goes to your nation, your race.

First Post? and that 2013 outdated article? meh

Bring something fresh from some credible source, then we'll talk

2016 Global Hunger index tells us that Pakistan has widespread Hunger, worst in South Asia

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

First Post? and that 2013 outdated article? meh

Bring something fresh from some credible source, then we'll talk

2016 Global Hunger index tells us that Pakistan has widespread Hunger, worst in South Asia

So in 3 years india has eradicated all of that.....lol. Only in an indian bollywood fantasy.......lol. The standards that Pakistan uses to define hunger are normal international standards. India uses a lower threshold, so what India considers healthy, Pakistanis and other non-indian don't:

http://wws.princeton.edu/news-and-e...al-health-india-much-worse-previously-thought

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...591/India-accused-of-poverty-smokescreen.html

So compared to India, someone that is listed as poor and starving in Pakistan would actually be considered healthy and we'll off according to Indian standards.

 

[Loft38]

So in 3 years india has eradicated all of that.....lol. Only in an indian bollywood fantasy.......lol. The standards that Pakistan uses to define hunger are normal international standards. India uses a lower threshold, so what India considers healthy, Pakistanis and other non-indian don't:

So compared to India, someone that is listed as poor and starving in Pakistan would actually be considered healthy and we'll off according to Indian standards.

lol...posting articles from 2012 and that too related to maternal health. hahah. your desperate attempt to prove your point makes you look silly.

Zoom it and see for yourself. This is not some fanboy newspaper site from some ancient time. This from GHI's own website in 2016.

As I said before, Pakistan has worst hunger and starvation problem in South Asia, and the improvement over the years is dismal.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

lol...posting articles from 2012 and that too related to maternal health. hahah. your desperate attempt to prove your point makes you look silly.

Zoom it and see for yourself. This is not some fanboy newspaper site from some ancient time. This from GHI's own website in 2016.

As I said before, Pakistan has worst hunger and starvation problem in South Asia, and the improvement over the years is dismal.

Lol.......Didn't realise that India has become utopia since 2012/13. Also read the article where indians clearly insinuate your government is hiding the TRUE india poverty figures:

http://wws.princeton.edu/news-and-e...al-health-india-much-worse-previously-thought

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-29/india's-battle-with-malnutrition/7056274