Egyptian Armed Forces

[MICA]

everythink looks modern except the AK-47, any news to replace those AK...............

nope only rumors says that it might be replaced with AK-103 in a local production like the ak-47 but nothing is confirmed

 

[Wasteland]

nope only rumors says that it might be replaced with AK-103 in a local production like the ak-47 but nothing is confirmed

Actually, it probably will be replaced with SIG-516

 

[MICA]

Actually, it probably will be replaced with SIG-516

the Sig 516 and sig commando 556 will be the main weapon for the "rapid deployment force" and the paratroopers (beside the M4) not the whole army and the Beretta ARX 160 for the navy , no one know yet what will replace the AK-47 for the whole ground troops but i am sure it will be local production because the orders will be Huge

 

[masud]

nope only rumors says that it might be replaced with AK-103 in a local production like the ak-47 but nothing is confirmed

i like A-762 rifles............

 

[MICA]

Preparations of the armed forces to secure the opening ceremony of the New Suez Canal

 

[Sinai Horus]

Egypt and Saudi Arabia leaders of Arab security, says Sisi

Egypt and Saudi Arabia are vital for the security in the Arab region, Egypt’s President Abdel-Fattah al-Sisi said on Thursday. (AFP)
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Staff writer, Al Arabiya News
Thursday, 30 July 2015

Egypt and Saudi Arabia are vital for the security in the Arab region, Egypt’s President Abdel-Fattah al-Sisi said on Thursday.

The two allies, who are partners in the kingdom-led coalition striking Houthi militias in Yemen, are the “wings of Arab security,” Sisi told graduates of the military academy. Saudi Deputy Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, who also serves as defense minister, was also at the ceremony.

Sisi added that the deputy crown prince’s presence at the ceremony sent a “strong message” of cooperation to their people. “You will not see us but together,” state-owned paper al-Ahram reported him as saying.

The “highly difficult regional circumstances,” would require “security vigilance and extra effort.”

Since the ouster of Islamist President Mohammad Mursi in 2013, Saudi was quick to back Sisi, seeing him as a bulwark of regional stability.

On the same day, Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister and his Egyptian counterpart expressed their keenness to further develop relations between the two countries, dubbed key to regional security.
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A handout picture provided by the Office of the Egyptian Presidency on July 30, 2015 shows Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi (R) sitting next to Saudi deputy Crown Prince and Minister of Defense Mohammed bin Salman as they attend a military academy graduation ceremony in the Egyptian capital, Cairo. (AFP)

Egypt’s Foreign Minister Samih Shoukry described “solidarity” between Cairo and Riyadh as important to protecting regional security in a joint press conference with Saudi’s top diplomat Adel al-Jubeir.

Jubeir said Riyadh is keen to further develop its relations and cooperation with Cairo. He also said communication is continuing with Egypt to build a unified military Arab force.

In March, Arab foreign ministers met in Egypt and agreed to establish a unified military force for rapid intervention to deal with security threats to Arab nations, including Islamist militants who have seized large swathes of land in Syria and Iraq.

While the ministers agreed in principle, no major development materialized.

Last Update: Thursday, 30 July 2015 KSA 18:06 - GMT 15:06

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...darity-key-to-protect-regional-security-.html
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Any idea if prince Mohamed bin salman is the one who will represent KSA in the Suez Canal ceremony?

 

[Frogman]

well i like this discussion

• first EAF was operating ( F-16 , M2K , Mirage-5 , f4 , Mig 21 , F-7 ) all at the same time so after phasing out the aging aircrafts till 2020 it will Only operate ( Rafale , Mig 29M/35 , F-16 ) so it wouldn't be a logistical disaster.

• as i said in my previous post i am not that impressed with the Mig but with the new aesa radar , new engine RD-33OVT , and with the italian jammer from Elettronica and the OLS it's pretty well equipped economical A2A fighter , you know our Generals (Lol) will not only rely on french or USA because of "تعدد مصادر السلاح" as they always claim and they are kinda right tbh.

• the mig has a new Pod developed btw but you are right russia is ignoring Mikoyan projects.

• 5th gen fighters , F-35? don't even dream about getting it , Pak Fa ? russia are struggling developing it , J-20 ? beside i am not so sure about it i don't see it in production before 2020 from optimistic pov and of they will not sell it now

the new mig targeting pod
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- Yes the EAF was operating several types of aircraft but there were issues with the amount of resources pushed to certain aircraft and thus they managed to create a massive imbalance in terms of the extent they could maintain different types of aircraft.

For instance the EAF was able to overhaul/rebuild their Mirages but couldn't do the same for the -16 or any other aircraft. The MiGs had to be rebuilt and upgraded in Ukraine, the F-7s were sent to China IIRC and the -16s and Phantom were sent to the states.

The resources spent on the maintenance of the Mirages and MiG/F-7 in-house should have been spent solely on the -16 which is destined to continue operations till 2030 or beyond. Whereas the Mirage and the MiG/F-7 are being retired already and thus the capabilities we built up for them will be rendered pretty much useless and will need conversion to support another aircraft type, pretty much starting from scratch all over again.

- I'm not saying the MiG-35 isn't a capable fighter, it is. But it just doesn't have the growth potential of the Rafale.

Different sources of armament is all well and good but not putting all your eggs in one basket is a double edged sword particularly when the overwhelming majority of your aircraft come from the same source and they form the backbone and cutting edge of your force.

For instance if the US pulled the plug on the -16 for the EAF pre Russian and French deals the air force would have to rely on ageing MiGs/F-7s/MIV and a few M2Ks. While the F-16 will still fly, albeit less due to maintenance and spares issues that will develop, reliance on the other aircraft will cause a huge capability gap and we would be stomped by any near peer adversaries in the region if conflicts did arise.

I believe it's much better to rely one or two sources of armament (while others may be relied upon to fill niche requirements) and build up capabilities where by if they cut support we could continue operating their aircraft as if nothing had happened (of course cutting support would still cause some limitations).

- Fifth gen aircraft would only be available to the EAF and other export customers around 2025 I believe. No chance of the -35 though.

 

[MICA]

- Yes the EAF was operating several types of aircraft but there were issues with the amount of resources pushed to certain aircraft and thus they managed to create a massive imbalance in terms of the extent they could maintain different types of aircraft.

For instance the EAF was able to overhaul/rebuild their Mirages but couldn't do the same for the -16 or any other aircraft. The MiGs had to be rebuilt and upgraded in Ukraine, the F-7s were sent to China IIRC and the -16s and Phantom were sent to the states.

The resources spent on the maintenance of the Mirages and MiG/F-7 in-house should have been spent solely on the -16 which is destined to continue operations till 2030 or beyond. Whereas the Mirage and the MiG/F-7 are being retired already and thus the capabilities we built up for them will be rendered pretty much useless and will need conversion to support another aircraft type, pretty much starting from scratch all over again.

- I'm not saying the MiG-35 isn't a capable fighter, it is. But it just doesn't have the growth potential of the Rafale.

Different sources of armament is all well and good but not putting all your eggs in one basket is a double edged sword particularly when the overwhelming majority of your aircraft come from the same source and they form the backbone and cutting edge of your force.

For instance if the US pulled the plug on the -16 for the EAF pre Russian and French deals the air force would have to rely on ageing MiGs/F-7s/MIV and a few M2Ks. While the F-16 will still fly, albeit less due to maintenance and spares issues that will develop, reliance on the other aircraft will cause a huge capability gap and we would be stomped by any near peer adversaries in the region if conflicts did arise.

I believe it's much better to rely one or two sources of armament (while others may be relied upon to fill niche requirements) and build up capabilities where by if they cut support we could continue operating their aircraft as if nothing had happened (of course cutting support would still cause some limitations).

- Fifth gen aircraft would only be available to the EAF and other export customers around 2025 I believe. No chance of the -35 though.

you still remember this discussion

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

the Sig 516 and sig commando 556 will be the main weapon for the "rapid deployment force" and the paratroopers (beside the M4) not the whole army and the Beretta ARX 160 for the navy , no one know yet what will replace the AK-47 for the whole ground troops but i am sure it will be local production because the orders will be Huge

i wish the ARX 160 could be the main weapon in the army

 

[MICA]

i wish the ARX 160 could be the main weapon in the army

i wish too and some of my friends got it in Sinai but i think it's too expensive to be the main weapon for the whole army

 

[Frogman]

you still remember this discussion

Yeah, it's still bugging me.

i wish the ARX 160 could be the main weapon in the army

i wish too and some of my friends got it in Sinai but i think it's too expensive to be the main weapon for the whole army

The future is Polish gentleman!

Low unit cost in comparison to the ARX/ACR, ergonomic, modular, lightweight, reliable, just entering production and incredibly feckin cool. You needn't replace the entire Armed Forces standard service rifle just combat arms (infantry based formations mainly) if order numbers/ price is an issue.

Plus the Polish are replacing their Beryl's (AK derivative) with them so there's a bit of commonality there.

But one can only dream, I'd rather they kitted out the lads properly, kevlar reinforced helmets, plate carriers, radios, and med equipment (which needs to be given to the lads ASAP).

 

[MICA]

they are all good pieces but the most reliable modern assault rifle is still the hk416 and my Top on any list

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

Yeah, it's still bugging me.




The future is Polish gentleman!

Low unit cost in comparison to the ARX/ACR, ergonomic, modular, lightweight, reliable, just entering production and incredibly feckin cool. You needn't replace the entire Armed Forces standard service rifle just combat arms (infantry based formations mainly) if order numbers/ price is an issue.

Plus the Polish are replacing their Beryl's (AK derivative) with them so there's a bit of commonality there.

But one can only dream, I'd rather they kitted out the lads properly, kevlar reinforced helmets, plate carriers, radios, and med equipment (which needs to be given to the lads ASAP).

looks impressive

 

[MICA]

Some of the Suez Canal Security forces

 

[Frogman]

they are all good pieces but the most reliable modern assault rifle is still the hk416 and my Top on any list

To be honest I wouldn't really know. I've only ever fired three rifles, the SA80A2, Lee Enfield (IIRC) MK1, and the Mauser.

Some of the Suez Canal Security forces

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I see on your FB page you said that the kevlar reinforced helmet was going to be standardised. Any information on how far this standardisation will go and what timeline we are looking at? Plus any news on new plate carriers and belt kits?