INDIA’S HOSTILE BMD PROGRAM AND PAKISTAN’S SECURITY OPTION – OPED

[danger007]

before responding to a post try to read it carefully and then understand it.



PAF's goal is to get 100+ F-16 all block-50 standard and they will get it, if you think those F-16s are vintage then your M2ks are more vintage and outdated then those F-16s.

By the time you get 100 f 16... We would start inducting FGFA.. I understand your post.. How about this PAF facing 50 Fife, 50 Mki and m2k

 

[IPL5]

PAF's goal is to get 100+ F-16 all block-50 standard and they will get it, if you think those F-16s are vintage then your M2ks are more vintage and outdated then those F-16s.

you can't even afford j10 b, in near future, how will you afford 100+ f-16 blk 52 ? forget about our M2Ks, we have 200+ spanking new MKIs. and super sukhois are waiting in the wing.

 

[Kompromat]

Solution is to increase 'offensive' posture. Pakistan needs to invest in High Velocity Delivery Vehicles i.e the Chinese Falcon. We can develop a similar system as a joint venture with China.

The capability of Eradicating India from the map is our best defense. We must take the deployment of BMD as a 2nd priority over the long term. Offensive capability comes first!

 

[nair]

The capability of Eradicating India from the map is our best defense. We must take the deployment of BMD as a 2nd priority over the long term. Offensive capability comes first!

If you were an Indian What would have been your option if Pakistan get this so called "Capability of eradicating India from MAP"????

 

[Kompromat]

@Hyperion

If you were an Indian What would have been your option if Pakistan get this so called "Capability of eradicating India from MAP"????

Geniunely working for peace and to resolve the outstanding issues. No one gets to win a MAD.

 

[Basel]

By the time you get 100 f 16... We would start inducting FGFA.. I understand your post.. How about this PAF facing 50 Fife, 50 Mki and m2k

No, the reason for going for more F-16s is because of the speed in which they can be procured and integrated in the system of PAF they are stop gap jets, as soon 5th gen will be available (even in limited numbers) it will take its place as PAF has turned down its plans to procure J-10 to save money for it. PAF know they will need 5th gen planes after 2022 till then F-16s & JF-17 can hold their own against IAF in a NCW environment and both will be upgraded when possible, JF-17 may be first jet to get an AESA radar in PAF.

you can't even afford j10 b, in near future, how will you afford 100+ f-16 blk 52 ? forget about our M2Ks, we have 200+ spanking new MKIs. and super sukhois are waiting in the wing.

Here you Indians are always wrong, used F-16s are much cheaper to operate and procure they can be rapidly inducted due to already available infrastructure and training while J-10 will take time to master and induct it will be more costly to have while it will be little inferior to F-16s.

 

[Abingdonboy]

How on earth can a Ballistic Missile Defence program be hostile?

This is Pakistani logic- ANY Indian advancement on any level is a threat to them and thus some evil Hinduvta/Zionist plot against them....

 

[nair]

@Hyperion



Geniunely working for peace and to resolve the outstanding issues. No one gets to win a MAD.

In that case we already have "MAD"....... Why this wipe out idea?

Coming back to the other part of your post, I agree with you on working towards Peace and that should be the way forward..... But then the word "Genuine" is a confusing one..... Because we both Genuinely tried peace once, and that time It was India who initiated it..... But with in few months we were fighting a war.....

I am very sure Both India and Pakistan will be living in peace.... May not be in our generation, but surely the next one....

 

[danger007]

Solution is to increase 'offensive' posture. Pakistan needs to invest in High Velocity Delivery Vehicles i.e the Chinese Falcon. We can develop a similar system as a joint venture with China.

The capability of Eradicating India from the map is our best defense. We must take the deployment of BMD as a 2nd priority over the long term. Offensive capability comes first!

And you are admin... Talking to eradicate another... Funny such a low value post from a Admin... Am not sure about India.. But if thing is like that, eradicating pak is much easier than huge Indian land mass... Grow up...

 

[danger007]

No, the reason for going for more F-16s is because of the speed in which they can be procured and integrated in the system of PAF they are stop gap jets, as soon 5th gen will be available (even in limited numbers) it will take its place as PAF has turned down its plans to procure J-10 to save money for it. PAF know they will need 5th gen planes after 2022 till then F-16s & JF-17 can hold their own against IAF in a NCW environment and both will be upgraded when possible, JF-17 may be first jet to get an AESA radar in PAF.



Here you Indians are always wrong, used F-16s are much cheaper to operate and procure they can be rapidly inducted due to already available infrastructure and training while J-10 will take time to master and induct it will be more costly to have while it will be little inferior to F-16s.

if you have money , you can induct available platforms to Paf... You don't have sufficient funds to induct costly jets for short term purpose... No if you want to induct F 16 you need America permission.. Which is highly unlikely that they accept any of this proposal from pak at present scenario... Nothing is cheap... You have to pay much more than you are thinking... Do you have enough spares, logistical,support..... Every post of you come out with wishful thinking... Am just wondering.... When you are talking about 100 F 16 roaring on IAF... But truth is you have only 18 blk 52 standard....

 

[Hyperion]

That we can all agree upon. Maybe two more generation, and until then, MAD will keep us all in check. Think about it, any one-sided absolute defense is actually bad for the overall scenario. Think long about it.

I am very sure Both India and Pakistan will be living in peace.... May not be in our generation, but surely the next one....

 

[Mitro]

BMD system being defensive in nature but when it comes in Indo pak scenario makes balance tilt towards india that's why Pakistani call it offensive.

With advancement of hypersonic cruise missile will make all BMD useless and when attack with mixture of ballistic and cruise missile it will be very difficult to protect the target.

Nobody in the right sense will put his family life in danger just by believing in DRDO BMD system.

USA with all the modern system is afraid of North Korea 2 nuclear missile and here we are talking about 100's and India is not US .

 

[Brickwall]

Everyone knows BMD is not 100% effective but it will mitigate some risk.
Pakistan will need to exponentially increase missiles to counter BMD, thereby draining resources from some other critical systems.

 

[The SC]

I am not sure if everyone here has heard about decoys, but they are so sophisticated now a days with customizable radar signatures to exactly mimic, a fighter jet or a ballistic missile or anything else that flies, they are very cheap to produce. Nothing now a days can stop an attack, since most BMD missiles will be lost on decoys.

 

[Basel]

if you have money , you can induct available platforms to Paf... You don't have sufficient funds to induct costly jets for short term purpose... No if you want to induct F 16 you need America permission.. Which is highly unlikely that they accept any of this proposal from pak at present scenario... Nothing is cheap... You have to pay much more than you are thinking... Do you have enough spares, logistical,support..... Every post of you come out with wishful thinking... Am just wondering.... When you are talking about 100 F 16 roaring on IAF... But truth is you have only 18 blk 52 standard...

PAF don't have much problem in getting used F-16s when available because US facilitated the deal of Jordanian F-16s and as per some reports PAF still have 15 MLU kits left for use and they have no plans to up grade Jodanain F-16s which are ADF version, also for all those Indians who think that PAF only have 18 block-50/52 standard, please go through F-16 thread where you will find all links you need to understand that in terms of capabilities MLUed ones are on par with new ones only range, engine is different and all EW is carried in house in new ones whereas MLUed ones have to carry pods so due to that the new ones can more pay load of weapons. PAF should work to get remaining 18 new ones so we will have nearly 2 squadron on new ones.