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U-214 Deal, Prime Minister in Germany

To put it short
IT is not happening.
German legislation is required to allow for the export of those items.
WHICH would have been in place by now, had Zardari ( son of a woman who gives pleasure in return for money) not had his way.

German government was embarrassed beyond belief by the way Zardari and minister of defense took a U turn in favor of france.

Now, it is upto the diplomats again to get this out of cold storage.

For all practical purpose this is dead !

After reading this please feel free to admire

Zulfiqar bhutto ( man who gave rise to ppp)
Benazir and siblings = products of a fudal and woman from Iran ( who gives pleasure to men in return for money) AND ( who hijacked Pakistan's own plane).
Zardari = who was born after some dogs got lucky with a woman because her husband was playing ding dong with a couple of donkeys.

Why is this nonesense being allowed here. Moderators should have a really close look at this and look at all the thanks he got. This shows the moral level of some of the members here.

Remember the present government has been voted in. They shall be out of office in at the most five years. Wait and then vote against them instead of posting stupid things.
 
Come on guys, wts update abt U214.
We need it as soon as possible.
 
Inshallah U-214 will be coming to Pakistan soon but I think Pakistan should start joint project with friendly countries (Turkey, China) to build it's own Submarine.
 
this is not gooood!
This loser PPP government are not doing simply enough.... they only enjoy the trip and dont give a squat about naval requirements. they only dance and partayyy while pakistan suffers!
hats off to our previous Air Chief who worked his @ss off to get us new F-16s unlike the new chief who shamelessly gave all credit to stupid PPP leadership...
 
Bear in mind that TKMS wouldn't even be allowed to step foot in Karachi for IDEAS by the German Govt if there were no plans to sell Pakistan the equipment. Secondly, I don't understand why the PN would select a system it has absolutely no hope in acquiring? Thirdly, Pakistan is a broke country, it's likely sorting out a long-term credit line with the German Govt - this can also take time. Fourthly, the overall submarine requirement in Pakistan isn't exactly small, they require 9-11 new submarines.
 
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ejaz007 Bahi,
I respect you, but not agree with you.

if you call this a serious forum where you come to debate issues, then that particular post is intolerable. You have to whether you like it or not maintain decorum of a board. Otherwise it turns into a farce and you loose all serious debators.
Araz
 
Abu Dhabi Mar Confirms In Talks With ThyssenKrupp On HDW





DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

Arab shipbuilder Abu Dhabi Mar Tuesday confirmed it is in preliminary talks with German steelmaker ThyssenKrupp AG (TKA.XE) on German submarine builder Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft, or HDW.

"I can confirm that Abu Dhabi Mar is talking to Thysenkrupp, the owner of HDW," a Germany-based spokesman for Abu Dhabi Mar told Dow Jones Newswires.

"Abu Dhabi Mar and Thysenkrupp are in due diligence on Blohm Voss, and in that context, they have also talked on HDW," the spokesman said, adding "there are no final discussions or negotiations. They are in preliminary talks."

He wouldn't confirm the size of the stake they are reportedly looking at. "They're focusing on Blohm Voss and completing that."

The comments come in response to an article in German daily newspaper Handelsblatt Tuesday, citing sources that Abu Dhabi Mar wants to take a 24.9% stake in HDW.

Company Web site: www.abudhabimar.com; Home - ThyssenKrupp AG

-By Nour Malas, Dow Jones Newswires; 49 69 29725 500; djnews.frankfurt@dowjones.com


Abu Dhabi Mar Confirms In Talks With ThyssenKrupp On HDW
 
Stay on topic please.

Salman108 - refrain from that sort of language - you will be banned next time. You want to criticize Zardari and the PPP, that is fine, but you don't have to turn the thread into a cyberspace version of a truck-stop to do so.
 
Abu Dhabi Mar Confirms In Talks With ThyssenKrupp On HDW

DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

Arab shipbuilder Abu Dhabi Mar Tuesday confirmed it is in preliminary talks with German steelmaker ThyssenKrupp AG (TKA.XE) on German submarine builder Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft, or HDW.

"I can confirm that Abu Dhabi Mar is talking to Thysenkrupp, the owner of HDW," a Germany-based spokesman for Abu Dhabi Mar told Dow Jones Newswires.

"Abu Dhabi Mar and Thysenkrupp are in due diligence on Blohm Voss, and in that context, they have also talked on HDW," the spokesman said, adding "there are no final discussions or negotiations. They are in preliminary talks."

He wouldn't confirm the size of the stake they are reportedly looking at. "They're focusing on Blohm Voss and completing that."

The comments come in response to an article in German daily newspaper Handelsblatt Tuesday, citing sources that Abu Dhabi Mar wants to take a 24.9% stake in HDW.

Company Web site: www.abudhabimar.com; Home - ThyssenKrupp AG

-By Nour Malas, Dow Jones Newswires; 49 69 29725 500; djnews.frankfurt@dowjones.com


Abu Dhabi Mar Confirms In Talks With ThyssenKrupp On HDW

Isnt it funny UAE is in trouble - Dubai was in verge of default and they are buying weapons. Their credit ratings are going down and they are not even concerned.
 
well i think the PPP will finally succeed to go for the french subs (which as a matter of fact they will love to do for obvious reasons) as the have quite successfully derailed the U214 project. no with the german gov having so many options to sell these boats might not bother to convince Pakistan to get the U214.
a big big loss indeed...
i sincerely wish that all i have written turns out to ne bullshit and PN do get there hands on to U214 but in current circumstances it seem highly unlikely.

---------- Post added at 01:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:26 PM ----------

well if PN do not get the U214 for me it will be a lose even bigger than the lost F16 deal of the 90z...
 

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