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Arjun MK2 1st Pic arrived

I wish so too but how can you stop the fanboys

a little bit of comparison is inevitable but can be done without rhetoric and ranting.

tank doesnt just look impressive but its German element ends all doubts over its capability.

its outlook is a brave attempt to breakaway from the contemporary design. the tracks are not as much covered as modern Western tanks. if that is done it will be hard to distinguish it with any Western tank.
I have seen a video on Arjun tanks (sorry cant find it) where a Germany officer is expressing his amazement what has taken Indian decision makers so long to induct it.

Sir, if you could find it/give us some more details so we can try and locate it ourselves that would be hugely appreciated!
 
Tank looks in good shape but the problem for Indian army is Arjun MK2 deliveries will start by 2015 and by that time they are expecting FMBT, but it doesn't matter Drdo always behind schedule and it will give lot of time to IA to induct MK2 and our Indians friends are used to celebrate with prototypes like in case of lca and many other products. :D

Livefist: Reloaded Arjun Killed At Birth?
DO yourself a favor and keep that head of your stuck in your favorite sand dune. Rest should just improve slowly but surly.
 
This is surprising. You built a tank and your engineers do not have bridges which could sustain the weight of this tank to enter the bridge-head across a canal or a ditch. interesting indeed.
Canal and ditch yes, but fording broad rivers may be a problem.

It can ford 1.4m without preparation and wade through a depth of upto 2.15m.

For canals up to 60 ft, the Bridge Layer Tank, BLT-72 has been developed to meet the requirements for assault bridging. The BLT can handle all types of tracked and wheeled vehicles in service including the Arjun MBT. The bridge classification is MLC 70 NATO which means it can easily take on an Arjun plus a 7 to 10 tonner simultaneously.

The new Arjun Bridge Layer Tank, the BLT-Arjun is an all-new design. It uses the chassis of the Arjun tank and can take higher weights than the BLT-72.


All road bridges in the area of ops are Cl 70 and can easily take on the Arjuns without any difficulty. In addition, the railways have made proprietary rakes for carriage of Arjun tanks if required to be switched from one theater to another.

Plus C-17 Globemasters can carry an Arjun without batting an eye, as it is designed to carry the Abrams which is 66 tons. The Arjun is less than 60!

I hope this clears the doubts of many Pakistani friends here who think that the Arjun does not have strategic mobility and cannot move over water obstacles and bridges due to its weight!

Cheers!
 
The new Arjun looks more T-90 inspired than it's old leopard inspired look. Turret has lost significant mass, profile is lower. Might have lost 4 to 8 tonnes.



The whole Arjun program.

are you referring to T 90 MS?
 
Wrong!!1st batch of Mk1 was unfit for desert warfare mainly due to frequent power plant breakdown and blurring vision of thermal imager and laser range-finder in desert summer however second batch was as good as any other tank in contemporary tank where DRDO rectified of Powerplant and Vision erratic problems in batch one too then same set of equipments used in T90 and T72upgraded .

In Arjun Mk2, there is no rectification of old Blurring of LRF and TI problem as they already been solved .


By the time they were, it had outlived it's GSR which is why with an ultimate requirement of over 1500 planned. Only 250 were inducted.

are you referring to T 90 MS?

T-90 Bhisma
 
One and Last thing. Nag anti tank Missile would take your Al Khalid to Al Garbage. Neither any Arjun or T-90 has to do any effort.

Now Stop trolling and comparing or else I am going to report your utter BS.

Lol... yeah our IFVs and BAKTARSHIKKAN mounted APCs and TOW2 and Milan missiles would be trolling.
 
They're pretty evenly matched but the electronics suite on the T-90 is more advanced and it has GLONASS support which means you find a satellite more quickly and your position more accurately, possibly the AK MK-II might incorporate features to nullify this advantage.

I doubt it... indian t-90s have lesser P/W ratio,inferior in make,substandard fire control system and no APS as of yet... while our AKs have UAV connectivity,Rahbar battle management system,ugraded VARTA-1 and next gen APS under development...etc and what about Bediou?
 
The all new advance Mark II version of the Arjun main battle Tank is currently undergoing development trials since last month under the presence of the Indian Army.

The DRDO claims that the army sought 89 changes upon the Mark I model, and all 89 of them have been incorporated in the final version of the Mark II. ‘We have done that in record two years,’ a source said. The changes include 19 improvements, which are major. For example, the main gun can now launch missiles; the tank commander in Mark I just had a viewer which gave a panoramic view of the battle-field, now night vision capability to the commander’s viewer. That means the nigh blindness will no longer be a problem either for the gunner [he had night vision even in Mark I] or the commander. The DRDO source claimed that Mark II will be capable of performing day and night in ‘hunt and kill mode’.

The Arjun Mark II has also been incorporated with advance explosive reactive armour (ERA) to protect the tank and its crew. Mine ploughs have also been installed. Added to this, is the remote firing capability with 360 degree coverage for the Air Defence weapon.

Experts say that there are three main elements that constitute the attributes of a MBT: armour, firepower and maneuverability. To attain optimal level in one element is to give in to sub-optimality in another. For example, the German tank Leopold has heavy armour but is not all that maneuverable. The American Abrams is focused on fire-power. The Israeli Merkava IV has fast maneuverability.

The DRDO sources say that all the protection army wanted for survivability, have made the Mark II heavy, but its powerful engine provides it enough maneuverability. Also, a unique feature of the tank is that it can pivot around 360 degrees, while firing its main gun.

The sources however do not want to indulge in any discussion about the specifications of the tank. But they claim, ‘It is noteworthy that these 89 changes, make Arjun Mark II among the best tanks in the world in its class.’

Defence News - Arjun Mark II To Be World Class

what does the bolded part means.....is it's firing can be controlled by remote site and it could act as an SAM????
 
I doubt it... indian t-90s have lesser P/W ratio,inferior in make,substandard fire control system and no APS as of yet... while our AKs have UAV connectivity,Rahbar battle management system,ugraded VARTA-1 and next gen APS under development...etc and what about Bediou?

Doubts like ur's were cleared long time ago.....Don't waste ur time again :P
 
Take Al-Khalid out of this thread, discuss on thread dedicated to it. I want to know about Arjun the weapon on which this thread is based on. MODs make this thread like JF-17 one, no off topic and v/s comparison.
 
Wrong!!1st batch of Mk1 was unfit for desert warfare mainly due to frequent power plant breakdown and blurring vision of thermal imager and laser range-finder in desert summer however second batch was as good as any other tank in contemporary tank where DRDO rectified of Powerplant and Vision erratic problems in batch one too then same set of equipments used in T90 and T72upgraded .

In Arjun Mk2, there is no rectification of old Blurring of LRF and TI problem as they already been solved .


No friend, there is nothing wrong in mk1. Yes initially there was such problems in starting but these were rectify before induction like power plant as well electronics. Initial batch of T90 were not suitable for the desert environment bez it lake the a/c.
 
I read that the Arjun MKII turret can fire missiles, what missiles are these??
 

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