Exactly, make that point to your Pakistani compatriots who still dream of 'breaking up' India. Btw, India wasn't always favored by the west - remember the 1971 war when the US sent a CTF in support of Pakistan, or when Kissinger called Indira Gandhi a witch?
My Pakistani compatriots don't dream as much as your Indian counterparts do, I think that's a well known fact.
These examples you provided don't really add much to the fact that India has still been favored so much more in the west then Pakistan was, this has really been vital for India.
When Kissinger called Indira Gandhi a witch? What would've changed?
These mere examples where western nations weren't in favor of India for once doesn't take away the reality, and that reality is that India has been receiving much more support and enjoyed more political aswell as economic favor then Pakistan did.
That's a new one I hadn't heard so far - India wants to crush Pakistan just to show off! Seriously, enough with the conspiracy theories - India wouldn't kill 175 of its own people in Mumbai to start a war with Pakistan. Don't get me wrong, a lot of Indians, including me, would love to see Pakistan humiliated again, but the government of India isn't run by hotheads. All policy decisions are made with a level head. A weak, unstable Pakistan is NOT in India's interests.
I am not telling you conspiracy theories, I am telling you things that are actually quite close to what happens these days.
It's called "power projection", demonstrating your strengths and trying to inspire awe to Pakistan.
Read my post carefully, I did not say India was behind the Mumbai attacks, or as you guys dramatically say: 26/11 which refers to e.g. 9/11.
I said that these attacks do not automatically mean that Pakistan is behind them.
I'm also aware of the fact that you Indians want to humiliate Pakistan, but wanting to humiliate us
again?
Who's dreaming now?
You saying the government of Pakistan is run by political hotheads?
Have you seen your own Indian government?
What about the upcoming elections and the desperate moves from some of your politicians to try and improve their image among the Indian public by disregarding and threatening Pakistan as a whole?
Do Mr.Mukherjee or Sonia Gandhi ring a bell? Or do some statements made by Indian Army officials ring a bell?
I need no further explanation on this.
I see alot of hypocricy coming off your post, in the current situation, the Pakistani government is handling the situation rather cool and calm while the Indian government is jumping the guns.
Ofcourse a weak and unstable Pakistan is not in Indias interests.
You'd like to see Pakistan prosper and flourish right? Then why is India keen on striking inside Pakistan which may well lead to a fullscale war?
The government of India cannot start a "media propaganda war" because it doesn't control the media (except PTI). The Indian media is simply a reflection of what Indian people want sometimes.
Again, read my post a little carefully, I did not say the GoI starting a media propaganda war, even though they support it 100%.
Your media has indeed launched a dramatic, war hysteric propaganda assault at Pakistan.
And please refrain from using the word
"sometimes" .
Seeing comments from alot of Indian people, they are loving it, and they wouldn't mind seeing it daily on TV.
Not handing over proof to interpol does not mean it doesn't exist.
It does raise suspicion.
If the Indians had real proof, i'm sure they would've shown it to the world immediately, like they're showing how desperate they are to the world right now.
They wouldn't hestitate, trust me, if they had real evidence, and with evidence, I mean EVIDENCE WHICH SERIOUSLY LINKS PAKISTAN TO THE ATTACKS, and not some handwritten paper which might aswell been written by your own government officials.
Your government still hasn't provided Pakistan with concrete evidence, yet asks Pakistan to do this and that, and some of "that" which isn't even related to the Mumbai bombings.
Simply a list from the GoI which has always wanted Pakistan to carry out these long wanted demands on her list to be accomplished by the GoP.
Didn't I talk earlier about India finally having an excuse to harm Pakistan?
The whole forum here is crying themselves hoarse with demands for "solid proof". Please tell me specifically what you guys consider "solid proof". The govt has publicised the terrorist's letter, plea for legal help as well as provided an entire list of culprits from the Mumbai attacks. What more do you want?
The people on this forum aren't crying for evidence, it's the Indian people and the GoI crying for action without a solid ground for their demands.
All the proof you have just stated is not VALID.
Pakistan has asked for a clear identification of the suspect, and so far, it cannot be proved that the attackers were from Pakistani origin.
Heck, India said it hasn't even completed it investigation.
So what more do we want? We want your government and people to drop the acts and come up with something better because Pakistan can do the same, and especially with recent bombings inside Pakistan, it's easy to point fingers at India, as India is pointing fingers at Pakistan.
Funny isn't it?
Good for you, keep your country - we don't want it.
If that was the case, Pakistan would've had fine relations with India, and wouldn't have to worry about Indian aggression and threats for the past 60+ years.
I could accuse you of the same thing. Any neutral person visiting this forum without any background on the subject would think Pakistan is the greatest country on earth and India is the Satan incarnate. I hope we both know that is not the case. No one in India believes it is an angel, but we don't find Pakistan's repeated attempts to grab our land or blow us up amusing either.
Enough of this crap about RAW terrorists in Pakistan - show me one credible third party proof of RAWs involvement in Pakistan. I can show you dozens of sources that PROVE Pakistani involvement in terrorist activity in India.
Any "bright" person would know that people will always favor their own country, and ofcourse would say positive things about it.
However, in this forum, Pakistan has been criticized aswell by both Indian, Pakistani, American, Russian and people from other nations aswell.
This forum is known for its neutral discussions and not brainless bashing of one side or another, unlike some Indian forums.
Ofcourse I know India is no evil neither is Pakistan, however, I do believe India has wrong intentions when it comes to Pakistan.
It says one thing, but does another.
Also, i'm not digging up evidence for RAW involvement inside Pakistan, you will definitely find it in the forums, or someone else can post an article just for you.
You may post dozens of sources that prove Pakistani terrorist involvement inside India, but what would it matter?
The same is happening in Pakistan aswell, like I said before, you people have been brainwashed or something since you keep believing that your country has done Pakistan no harm.
That is pure fiction, stop denying any Indian involvement of attacks inside Pakistan.
Especially now, with Pakistan capturing Indian terrorists linked to recent blasts in Pakistan, it's good for the GoP to put this on the diplomatic table and show the world how much of a hypocrit the Indian government is.
Please stop believing that India is innocence, the whole Mumbai drama has unfolded many faces of the GoI and its people, and its true intentions are now known by the people of Pakistan.
