4 militants, 2 jawans, 3 civilians lost in firing in Bajaur

[Mirzali Khan]

ISPR

4 militants killed during clashes with security forces in bajaur district... During exchange of fire.... 2 jawans and 3 civilians lost their lives too....

@Huffal @Sainthood 101 @Vapnope @DESERT FIGHTER @Desert Fox 1 @Pak Nationalist @PakSarZameen47 @Bleek

https://twitter.com/x/status/1505947178421964809

 

[TheSolution]

TTP I'm guessing?

 

[hussain0216]

TTP I'm guessing?

Just your usual afghans, wherever they are their is turmoil

 

[Mirzali Khan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1505890857320591362

https://twitter.com/x/status/1505956171877912581

 

[PakSarZameen47]

I said before that something like this was going to happen to capitalise on the internal chaos. Whatever happens, PMLN and PPP cannot come back into power

 

[Tornado23]

Bloody hell...

2 soldiers and 3 civillians shaheed in the fire fight. What happened?

I'm glad justice was brought round almost immediately in the neutralising of the terrorists, but man..... Why was the collateral damage so high per say?

 

[TheSolution]

Just your usual afghans, wherever they are their is turmoil

They'll come around... hopefully

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Man our K/D is so terrible.

 

[Great Janjua]

Man our K/D is so terrible.

The foot soldier in PA is a Eid ka baqrah.

 

[Oom]

Whenever we hear these encounters and IBO, we kill a few terrorist and loose a few men.
I don’t understand why our losses are so high. The Turks fought against the PKK for decades and never has such frequent casualty numbers who even had manpads and atgm. What is the reason, lack of mraps and armoured vechiles, insufficient numerical advantage, lack of training and equipment, static defences which make our troops easy targets, or all of the aforementioned?.

We are losing so many officers, how is this even sustainable? Even when considering are large manpower.

I don’t think we should be comfortable with these numbers. We don’t know how long our western borders will remain unstable, the situation might even worsen. I don’t know what GHQ is thinking.

 

[Solidify]

Whenever we hear these encounters and IBO, we kill a few terrorist and loose a few men.
I don’t understand why our losses are so high. The Turks fought against the PKK for decades and never has such frequent casualty numbers who even had manpads and atgm. What is the reason, lack of mraps and armoured vechiles, insufficient numerical advantage, lack of training and equipment, static defences which make our troops easy targets, or all of the aforementioned?.

We are losing so many officers, how is this even sustainable? Even when considering are large manpower.

I don’t think we should be comfortable with these numbers. We don’t know how long our western borders will remain unstable, the situation might even worsen. I don’t know what GHQ is thinking.

From the looks of it, our GHQ thinks in authoritarian ways where troops are expendable. And GHQ don't share use of highly sophisticated weapons against the enemy.
With abundance of today's technology there are so many ways troop losses can be reduced.

 

[Great Janjua]

troops are expendable.

The damn truth.

 

[V. Makarov]

I am going to put forward a question to you guys:

Q) Was the procurement of the J-10C fighter aircraft more important than providing advanced military equipment for security forces fighting non-state actors, and foreign proxies in Balochistan? What are the strategic implications of ignoring the foot soldiers in that region? (10 marks) [Extra credit will be given to those who curse the establishment higher ups in an unrestrained manner]

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[Great Janjua]

I am going to put forward a question to you guys:

Q) Was the procurement of the J-10C fighter aircraft more important than providing advanced military equipment for security forces fighting non-state actors, and foreign proxies in Balochistan? What are the strategic implications of ignoring the foot soldiers in that region? (10 marks) [Extra credit will be given to those who curse the establishment higher-ups in an unrestrained manner]

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J-10 is the air force's concern, not the army outright ignoring its footsoldiers with little to no improvements in terms of their fighting gear.

We still see army personnel equipped with shoddy old helmets and " bulletproof vests" with nothing to show for the "bulletproof" part.

Despite the fact, the army has more than enough paper notes to establish otherwise better survival odds.

In the end, it's just criminal negligence on the part of army higher-ups.

 

[Oom]

I am going to put forward a question to you guys:

Q) Was the procurement of the J-10C fighter aircraft more important than providing advanced military equipment for security forces fighting non-state actors, and foreign proxies in Balochistan? What are the strategic implications of ignoring the foot soldiers in that region? (10 marks) [Extra credit will be given to those who curse the establishment higher ups in an unrestrained manner]

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I don’t see finances being a major limitation to procurements.
1) Nurol Ejder cost around half a million bucks a piece. 200 a years would cost 100 million. Nothing we couldn’t manage. We expressed interest in Turkish armoured vechiles back in 2015. Had we just procured 200 a year we would have had 1400 till now. Giving every IBO and patrol team of not only PA but also FC a safe ride.
2) a better assault rifle- we don’t need to equip the entire army. For starters just those deployed on the western border would have been enough. We could have procured them off the self. 100,000 rifles 1000 dollars a pop is only 100 million.
3) thermal optics and NSV. No doubt that would be expensive equipping the troops. But we could equip each squad atleast with two.


I honestly think PA is hesitant to change from static defence to mobile patrols because of the cost associated with it.

We needed the J10. If your trying to highlight what we could have cut off to pay for COIN the VT4 should be at the top. We could have delayed that.