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    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    This picture has done the rounds a few years ago.It is some Chinese youth's model about how a 4gen++ JFT should look like. This is not official. Fair to say that if you believe JFT will someday look like this then, I think it will not happen in my life time or perhaps not even in yours. I...
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    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    Let us not go into what ifs pkease. The fact is only the J10C and JFTs will operate together. Lets think of that and continue the debate.
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    Indian man accused of drugging, filming his sexual assaults of Korean women

    Guys.People with no u derstanding of the fiqh (islamic Jurisprudence) PLEASE: A. Do not bring the name of islam into this vile act. B. Please do not use Hadith and Quran for supporting/arguing if you do not have comprehension of the issue. Needless to say this man is a criminal if charges proven...
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    JF-17 Block-3 Induction Imminent

    Agreed. PAF would not want to switch over to a new engine outright. The delay in block 3 was due to new weapons testing. PAF is on record saying it is in no hurry to change engine. Newer engine in my very humble opinion will require testing which might send project back 2-3 years. Secondly even...
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    Rafale Ripper # 22-119 Revealed !

    Bow do you know they didn't!!! A
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    The dynamics of being a top dog are unimaginable for different nations. Looking back at the British and the French in the past does not give us much confidence on what will happen when another dog achieves the top dog position. Expecting the top dog to be more benevolent than the previous top...
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    I would agree with you. The world of aviation is bitterly fought out and China has spent a lot of blood and sweat. It would not jist hand over its hard won prize to another nation. Especially one with no money! I have maintained that for the next generation fighter Turkey and Pakistan are more...
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    Bhai I do not have the contacts or the capacity/ tolerance for cavity exploration to ask PAF what the suggestions were. Suffice it to say if Shahid Lateef says so, unless you can bring evidence to the fore to contradict him, then you will not be accepted as a counter source. If you can ask and...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

    I think this is a photo shopped image. A
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    Shahid Lateef is on record saying more than 30 changes were suggested to the J10 by PAF. Respect is due to all posters and I have no way of knowing what your credentials are. I would rather believe Shahid Lateef than you. The J31 remains a private venture, till PLAAF/PLAN puts its money behind...
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    I will only respond to the last paragraph of your post. When the PAF/PN/PA are acquiring drones from multiple sources and fulfilling their requirements Azm appears to just be another institution where people gain fat arses from sitting in plush offices and doing nothing. In the long run PAF will...
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    I have read the response of some of our Chinese brothers and also the suggestion of the venerable @SQ8. I agree with him that the Chinese requirement has changed as they have gotten their hands on the SU series and built them up along with developing it. However, international and Pakistani...
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    IK GETS NRO AGAIN! GOV'T WON'T PROSECUTE CORRUPTION, MONEY LAUNDERING AND WILL CHANGE MEDIA FOCUS AWAY!

    Yaar gaaly dainay ka dil chahta hai. These houbaras ran away and withdrew the case when the courts asked that records of all previous acquisitions from Tosha khana be furnished for all PMs. Choron kay bachay. Who are they trying to fool! My sincerest apologies to the venerable Houbara Bustards...
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    Taking over Pakistan controlled Kashmir is war with China and Pakistan

    THe problem from Pakistan's perspective is that it had no financial reserve to fight a war. Wars are expensive ventures and we are bankrupt. Whether we lower our Nuke threshold or rely on China remains to be seen. A
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    عمران خان کو 2017 میں این آر او ملا، عون چوہدری

    Drivel out of his rear end!. Chaudhry Saheb needs to provide more evidence than just say IK 's documents were not complete. Which documents and why did the courts/ EC/ NAB let him go if his documents were not complete? I dont get any commission from IK for defending him but no corruption charge...
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    You do know that (at least) the PAF circles have openly and repeatedly admitted that there was a commitment from the Chinese to buy 250 units of JFT which they subsequently reneged on, based on changed requirements of the PLAAF ( Possibly also the success of the J10 which suited their...
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    PAF will not buy J31 till: A. The PLAAF/PLAN buy them. B. Some other nation goes ahead and buys it. 5th generation technology is very complex and initial research outlay is huge. The teething troubles are also likely to be more and require expensive fixes. If PLAAF/PLAN/Others buy it, the cost...
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    I think the objection of the IAF pilots stemmed as much from the prevailing air environment with comprehensive jamming as well as inferior equipment. Going up in that environment would hace been suicidal. I dont think we should blame them. The failure lies with the IAF in the delays in their...
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    Please maintain decorum. There is nothing ridiculous in a point of view. To the best of my knowledge there are no plans on the part of PLAAF to induct J31.
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