Zaka Ashraf ‘proposes’ Jinnah-Gandhi trophy to BCCI, India is our brotherly nation. !

[ziaulislam]

Jinnah and Gandhi had different ideologies. Gandhi was for unity, Jinnah was for separation. So can’t really equate the two,

May be you guys should launch Jinnah-Mujib trophy, both of them have similar ideology, they created a separate state carved out from their own country for their people - who they thought are different from the rest.

BCCI should provide phull support for this noble initiative. Such a tournament will always keep Pakistan’s spirit high because they can beat Team Mujib in Cricket at least.

First of all Nehru was in command not ghandi

Second if ghandi was for unity why didn't you guys said yes to cabinet mission 1946 that jinnah accepted.

It was federally accepted formula for three federal units within a single federation

This was compromise formula bought by British but gandhi and nehru said no

Later on things were almost settled with sardar Patel asking to resolve all issues with mutual compromise but never went through

Anyway it's cricket you guys don't want to play who cares but don't pretend it's about national pride..you guys do all sorts of business with Pakistan.. national pride dispears then lol

Also use national pride and don't play Pakistan in international series

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

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It would have more chances of success if it would be named Munir-Modi series.

 

[karmaa]

First of all Nehru was in command not ghandi

Second if ghandi was for unity why didn't you guys said yes to cabinet mission 1946 that jinnah accepted.

It was federally accepted formula for three federal units within a single federation

This was compromise formula bought by British but gandhi and nehru said no

Later on things were almost settled with sardar Patel asking to resolve all issues with mutual compromise but never went through

Anyway it's cricket you guys don't want to play who cares but don't pretend it's about national pride..you guys do all sorts of business with Pakistan.. national pride dispears then lol

Also use national pride and don't play Pakistan in international series

Why should have hindus accepted any plan which has provision for future muslim plan for establishing another muslim Pakistan if Jinna was not happy with provisions of cabinet mission provisions ?

 

[Kuru]

First of all Nehru was in command not ghandi

Second if ghandi was for unity why didn't you guys said yes to cabinet mission 1946 that jinnah accepted.

It was federally accepted formula for three federal units within a single federation

This was compromise formula bought by British but gandhi and nehru said no

Later on things were almost settled with sardar Patel asking to resolve all issues with mutual compromise but never went through

Anyway it's cricket you guys don't want to play who cares but don't pretend it's about national pride..you guys do all sorts of business with Pakistan.. national pride dispears then lol

Also use national pride and don't play Pakistan in international series

Why do you think the cabinet mission plan couldn’t find any takers in Congress?

 

[alphapak]

It would have more chances of success if it would be named Munir-Modi series.

They should name it Whiskywala - Chaiwala series.

 

[Trailer23]

Go pair grow pairs , if unsuccessful ,

Others are going to suck , wait for three days come and join .

I suppose that's where you excel.

 

[my2cents]

No need.

!ndia can f#*k off...

They are too much of pussies to come to Pakistan.

Tell 'em to grow a pair before considering such a Tournament.

Jinnah did not spend a day in jail for freedom struggle . Gandhi spent total 6 years in jail and fought for unity. Jinnah did not believe in non cooperation movement or satyagrah. They were pole apart in their view about how to gain independence. Jinnah was a deal breaker and opportunist and caused irreparable damage to scores of people. More than one million people perished during partition because of him.

 

[Trailer23]

Jinnah did not spend a day in jail for freedom struggle . Gandhi spent total 6 years in jail and fought for unity. Jinnah did not believe in non cooperation movement or satyagrah. They were pole apart in their view about how to gain independence. Jinnah was a deal breaker and opportunist and caused irreparable damage to scores of people. More than one million people perished during partition because of him.

What?

I think you're tryin' to quote someone else 'bout Jinnah.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Jinnah did not spend a day in jail for freedom struggle . Gandhi spent total 6 years in jail and fought for unity. Jinnah did not believe in non cooperation movement or satyagrah. They were pole apart in their view about how to gain independence. Jinnah was a deal breaker and opportunist and caused irreparable damage to scores of people. More than one million people perished during partition because of him.

What?

I think you're tryin' to quote someone else 'bout Jinnah.

@my2cents I think you wanted to quote @ziaulislam


Jinnah was fighting Gandhi & the Hindus for separate electorate for the Muslims of South Asia.

Muslims of South Asia were happy with the British rule.

So why will be fighting the British?

You guys are delusional.

 

[my2cents]

@my2cents I think you wanted to quote @ziaulislam


Jinnah was fighting Gandhi & the Hindus for separate electorate for the Muslims of South Asia.

Muslims of South Asia were happy with the British rule.

So why will be fighting the British?

You guys are delusional.

@my2cents I think you wanted to quote @ziaulislam


Jinnah was fighting Gandhi & the Hindus for separate electorate for the Muslims of South Asia.

Muslims of South Asia were happy with the British rule.

So why will be fighting the British?

You guys are delusional.

Exactly right. Jinnah was ok being ruled by British. Gandhi started the quit India movement.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Exactly right. Jinnah was ok being ruled by British. Gandhi started the quit India movement.

Jinnah was successful lawyer while Gandhi was a failed lawyer and an emotional idiot.

 

[ziaulislam]

Why do you think the cabinet mission plan couldn’t find any takers in Congress?

Because Nehru wife was banging mount batten..it's well known so please don't bash me. Their love is everlasting

Jinnah was shocked when punjab and Bengal was divided that was never his intention

From 1920 the whole standing of ML was no change in Muslim majority provinces (and establishment of sindh as separate province)

Jinnah did not spend a day in jail for freedom struggle . Gandhi spent total 6 years in jail and fought for unity. Jinnah did not believe in non cooperation movement or satyagrah. They were pole apart in their view about how to gain independence. Jinnah was a deal breaker and opportunist and caused irreparable damage to scores of people. More than one million people perished during partition because of him.

Agree Jinnah was deal breaker and wanted a deal for Muslims, just like how Hindus became deal breakers when British came and just how my ancestors sided with British against Sikhs raj. The mashwani Pathans were decimated by Sikhs and had to side with lord Abbot

It's all about opportunity games

Hindus should have agreed to jinnah proposition of loose federation and 1/3 representation in center...but they didn't they thought a weak Pakistan will collapse on its own so instead Nehru asked his wife to bang lord mount batten and it worked for most part


That's summary what Jinnah wanted and he has Muslim support behind that Nehru or ghandi should have agreed to it but they didn't especially once reddcliff draw favourable boundaries for India

Fourteen Points of Jinnah - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Any indians wants to understand Pakistan point of view should just study two things and call it a day

1- 14 points of Jinnah
2- Jinnah accepting a united India in 1946(cabinet mission)

Don't go into detail

 

[hatehs]

Exactly right. Jinnah was ok being ruled by British. Gandhi started the quit India movement.

What are you talking about? Jinnah was one of the leading nationalists of his time. He ended up seeing through the facade presented by radical Hindus and saw their barbarity - he ended up not letting his guard down like others did in their dealings with them. This was a crucial mistake which leaders like Ambedkar made, and look what happens to their people now, getting urinated on by monkeys who chug down bottles of cow urine.

 

[ziaulislam]

Exactly right. Jinnah was ok being ruled by British. Gandhi started the quit India movement.

Jinnah was opportunistic, Muslims didn't had ghandi street power he knew how to play the game..

Though he lost a lot because of that when mount batten banged Nehru wife..that was his weakness lack of ample street power as Muslims were divided and a big deal supported ghandi

Though in retrospect jinnah was proven right seeing how intolerant the nation has become in last 20 yrs

Mughals were liberal but yet painted as criminals by Hindus

(No I have no sympathy with mughals my grandfather still has stories on how they fought the mughals and Sikhs afterwards)

Why should have hindus accepted any plan which has provision for future muslim plan for establishing another muslim Pakistan if Jinna was not happy with provisions of cabinet mission provisions ?

Why?
Because Jinnah has electrical vote behind him. He had won 1946 elections

Hindus said no and country got divided

Had Hindus said yes to cabinet mission a loose federation would have been the future

So don't blame Muslims you guys said no to loose federation

Did u see what happened to kashmir (Indian) how it status was destroyed. Jinnah for saw that

What was the grantee that current pakistan wouldn't be directly ruled like that in United India without the provision of cabinet mission???

 

[hatehs]

Though in retrospect jinnah was proven right seeing how intolerant the nation has become in last 20 yrs

Jinnah wasn't proven right. There was nothing to prove. Congressi Hindus were supporting riots and cow lynchings in his time too: