Ya'alon: Israel will destroy Lebanon's infrastructure in next war

[Serpentine]

1.3 million demographic loss of Syrians by December 2015 is not my number.

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/ethnic-cleansing-threatens-syrias-unity

You are killing Syrians not only directly. You are killing Syrians through starvation, deliberate destruction of vital infrastructures, hospitals, burning corps, ethnic cleansing and so on. As result of these actions Syrian life expectancy has dropped by 20 years.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ty-life-expectancy-cut-by-20-years-200bn-lost

That's your expertise, not ours. We (Iran) have done not a single one of those things you mentioned. Please don't label Israeli/US traits to us.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

True you are similar to the Ismailis,Druze and alawites who only mix with their communities and live isolated life in the mountains of Yemen,Syria,Lebanon and Israel

There are no Druze or Alawites in Yemen. You are thinking about the Zaydis.

Several of the leading Druze and Alawite clans are originally from Yemen and Hijaz. Similar to many of the Shia Arab clans in Southern Lebanon (Jabal Amel).

The most isolated mountain people in the Middle East are found in Southern KSA (Al-Habala).

They live in such landscapes:

faifa 2011 by al_gasemy, on Flickr


faifa 2011 by al_gasemy, on Flickr


faifa 2011 by al_gasemy, on Flickr

Beautiful traditional stone houses (similar to those found in mountainous regions of Caucasus):

One of the most beautiful areas in the world with one of the best climates out there. Paadise on earth IMO. My father recently bought a large traditional house in Asir that will be used as a holiday home.

http://www.beyondmyfrontdoor.com/wp/the-mountains-and-villages-of-habala-saudi-arabia/

Like the Druze we lived in the mountains and we were fighters, we ate a lot of sheep.
The difference is that I have no idea what the origin of the Druze and the Alawites is

The Druze and Alawites (who are Arabs) like all other Semitic peoples are originally from Arabia (Arabian Peninsula).

 

[abp94]

Sorry, the Land of Israel is the land of the people of Israel, that is, Jewish land!

Israel is not a Jewish nation per se. Possibly why it's so successful

Anyway, over the years, I've come to realise Hamas/Hezbollah don't care at all about their people. Their only goal is to attack Israel, even when they know they can't win. They don't even understand the need to build a better life for their people first, just attack, attack, attack.

Sometimes, you need to consolidate.

Some people might want to look at the early History of Islam for inspiration. The Prophet (SAW) suffered many years of persecution before Hijrat, he went through many defensive wars and didn't attack Makkah, until they had enough strength and Makkah broke the terms of a treaty, which gave them a pretext to attack.

Islam preaches intelligence, not idiotic blood lust.

 

[SALMAN F]

There are no Druze or Alawites in Yemen. You are thinking about the Zaydis.

Several of the leading Druze and Alawite clans are originally from Yemen and Hijaz. Similar to many of the Shia Arab clans in Southern Lebanon (Jabal Amel).

The most isolated mountain people in the Middle East are found in Southern KSA (Al-Habala).

They live in such landscapes:

faifa 2011 by al_gasemy, on Flickr


faifa 2011 by al_gasemy, on Flickr


faifa 2011 by al_gasemy, on Flickr

Beautiful traditional stone houses (similar to those found in mountainous regions of Caucasus):

http://www.beyondmyfrontdoor.com/wp/the-mountains-and-villages-of-habala-saudi-arabia/



The Druze and Alawites (who are Arabs) like all other Semitic peoples are originally from Arabia (Arabian Peninsula).

I am speaking about the similarities between the mountain jews and the Druze and alawites in Syria with the Ismailis of Yemen all of them are secretive they don't mix with others and they toke the mountains as home to flee from persecutions and because they have a different believes

 

[Saif al-Arab]

I am speaking about the similarities between the mountain jews and the Druze and alawites in Syria with the Ismailis of Yemen all of them are secretive they don't mix with others and they toke the mountains as home to flee from persecutions and because they have a different believes

Yes. Mountain people have always been more secretive due to geography and their lifestyle. They were not as adventurous as pastoral or nomadic people who often were on the move. This is why few mountainous people created large empires and kingdoms. Often mountainous people were very tribal too as mountains do not have too many resources so mountain communities tended to fight among each other for resources. Raids on mountain regions also often made them suspicious to outsiders.

In the mountainous regions of KSA (Hijaz, Southern KSA, parts of Najd, parts of Northern KSA) there were many (surprisingly) differences between mountain villages even in the same region in terms of customs, clothing, beliefs, cuisine etc.

This is also why Caucasus is such a diverse region in the world despite being this small. It has more ethnic groups and languages than all the Middle East combined. Exactly due to being mostly mountainous.

Another thing notice that the few remaining "tribal" people in Europe and where revenge played a key role (even to this day) are found in mountainous regions and often isolated ones.

Basque country, Corsica, Peloponnese (Mani Peninsula), Sicily, Northern Albania, Montenegro etc. Not counting Caucasus here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tribes_of_Albania

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghegs

https://www.outsideonline.com/1884726/corsica

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mani_Peninsula

The traditional mountain architecture in all of those places is also remarkably similar. Same with the mountains stretching from Yemen to Southern Lebanon (Arabian Plate) and Caucasus.

For instance those mountain watchtowers found in Georgia and Dagestan and houses (stone houses often) are more or less identical to those found in KSA and Yemen.

Anyway why do you have that "Wahhabi" as an avatar? Darwin sure looked like an ape.

 

[SALMAN F]

Yes. Mountain people have always been more secretive due to geography and their lifestyle. They were not as adventurous as pastoral or nomadic people who often were on the move. This is why few mountainous people created large empires and kingdoms. Often mountainous people were very tribal too as mountains do not have too many resources so mountain communities tended to fight among each other for resources. Raids on mountain regions also often made them suspicious to outsiders.

In the mountainous regions of KSA (Hijaz, Southern KSA, parts of Najd, parts of Northern KSA) there were many (surprisingly) differences between mountain villages even in the same region in terms of customs, clothing, beliefs, cuisine etc.

This is also why Caucasus is such a diverse region in the world despite being this small. It has more ethnic groups and languages than all the Middle East combined. Exactly due to being mostly mountainous.

Another thing notice that the few remaining "tribal" people in Europe and where revenge played a key role (even to this day) are found in mountainous regions and often isolated ones.

Basque country, Corsica, Peloponnese (Mani Peninsula), Sicily, Northern Albania, Montenegro etc. Not counting Caucasus here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tribes_of_Albania

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghegs

https://www.outsideonline.com/1884726/corsica

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mani_Peninsula

The traditional mountain architecture in all of those places is also remarkably similar. Same with the mountains stretching from Yemen to Southern Lebanon (Arabian Plate) and Caucasus.

For instance those mountain watchtowers found in Georgia and Dagestan and houses (stone houses often) are more or less identical to those found in KSA and Yemen.

Anyway why do you have that "Wahhabi" as an avatar? Darwin sure looked like an ape.

I agree with what you said some people in Africa or the Balkan,middle east, and Caucasus don't even marry from the same community if they were from different tribe or region
As for my avatar watch this

 

[SALMAN F]

That's what you expect from a terrorist state, which is Israel, to openly declare that they want to target civilian homes/villages. Israel/ISIS are two sides of the same coin.

You accuse the syrian groups of using the towns and mosques and bases to attack the syrian army yet you do the same tactic and when they attack you and kill civilians you start to cry

 

[19887]

Israel is not a Jewish nation per se. Possibly why it's so successful

Anyway, over the years, I've come to realise Hamas/Hezbollah don't care at all about their people. Their only goal is to attack Israel, even when they know they can't win. They don't even understand the need to build a better life for their people first, just attack, attack, attack.

Sometimes, you need to consolidate.

Some people might want to look at the early History of Islam for inspiration. The Prophet (SAW) suffered many years of persecution before Hijrat, he went through many defensive wars and didn't attack Makkah, until they had enough strength and Makkah broke the terms of a treaty, which gave them a pretext to attack.

Islam preaches intelligence, not idiotic blood lust.

Anyone who fights in the name of the Palestinian idea is fighting to get rid of Israel, he is not fighting to establish a state or unite the people to create a functioning society and economy.
You think that a Shiite terrorist organization (Hezbollah) or a terrorist organization of the Muslim Brotherhood (Hamas) cares about the people and a "Palestinian state," after all, the Muslim Brotherhood wants a caliphate, they are against a state.
They don't care about their people because there's no need for it, if they suffer, you can always blame Israel while you take your people's life or money or both.
They don't attack Israel in order to win, they attack with the aim of exhausting, this is the goal of terror and guerilla warfare.They think that if they frighten the Israelis then all the Israelis will flee to Europe.
And they have a few successes. For example, Israel left Lebanon and left the area to a terrorist organization.
Israel imported a terror organization (PLO) from Tunis to Judea, Samaria and Gaza, gave them territory and government there.
Another terrorist organization took over Gaza (Hamas) and Israel gave them immunity and didn't intend to topple them.
Unfortunately, Israel encourages terrorism by giving to the terrorists lands, money and other forms of support.
In the period of the beginning of Islam people activated their minds, they thought, planned and that is why they succeeded.

 

[The SC]

A very contradictory OP article:
Sounds more like:
"If Khamenei wants war. then Lebanon will go to war, and every Usraeli [person] will suffer from the next war."

Since it all about the fear from : "According to Israel estimates last year, Hezbollah has more than 120,000 missiles in its possession."

.. And still making more..
Anyone can understand that with such a missile arsenal, it is the Usraeli infrastructure that night get destroyed (let's be fair and say along the Lebanese one..).. that means that Lebanon has reached a good level of deterrence that scares Usrael.. one can see them projecting their fears on Lebanon.. almost crying..

 

[19887]

A very contradictory OP article:
Sounds more like:
"If Khamenei wants war. then Lebanon will go to war, and every Usraeli [person] will suffer from the next war."

Since it all about the fear from : "According to Israel estimates last year, Hezbollah has more than 120,000 missiles in its possession."

.. And still making more..
Anyone can understand that with such a missile arsenal, it is the Usraeli infrastructure that night get destroyed (let's be fair and say along the Lebanese one..).. that means that Lebanon has reached a good level of deterrence that scares Usrael.. one can see them projecting their fears on Lebanon.. almost crying..

At least a quarter of it will not be launched
Between a quarter to half Israel will destroy (especially those of medium and long range)
No more than a quarter of that will be launched towards Israel (most of which are short-range)
In addition we have Iron Dome and David Sling that cover infrastructure, bases, and big cities.

 

[500]

That's your expertise, not ours. We (Iran) have done not a single one of those things you mentioned. Please don't label Israeli/US traits to us.

Thats what Asadists do they could do that only with ur direct support. Without ur support Assad would flee Syria like Ben Ali and war would be spared.

All Assad crimes is ur responsibility. Furthsmore, sickest crimes were done with ur DIRECT support:

Ethnic cleansing policies started with Quseir in 2013, which was cleansed by Hezbollah thugs. In same time your thugs started starvation of Ghouta and other areas with Iraqi and Hezbollah sectarian thugs, gas attack of Ghouta was done by Volcano rockets based on ur Falaq and with ur thugs around.

 

[The SC]

At least a quarter of it will not be launched
Between a quarter to half Israel will destroy (especially those of medium and long range)
No more than a quarter of that will be launched towards Israel (most of which are short-range)
In addition we have Iron Dome and David Sling that cover infrastructure, bases, and big cities.

IDF couldn't find Hezbollah fighters in the last war, you think it can find their underground missiles and factories?
If 50% of the missiles go through Usraeli defences.. that means 60 000 missiles.. you will be the first one to try to take the first plane in any direction..that is, if you can find any airport..
And it will be an impossible task for Usrael to destroy the other 60 000 missiles you can do that in a dream but not in reality.. furthermore.. by that time of war the arsenal might be 180 000 missiles if not already..

 

[19887]

IDF couldn't find Hezbollah fighters in the last war, you think it can find their underground missiles and factories?
If 50% of the missiles go through Usraeli defences.. that means 60 000 missiles.. you will be the first one to try to take the first plane in any direction..that is, if you can find any airport..
And it will be an impossible task for Usrael to destroy the other 60 000 missiles you can do that in a dream but not in reality.. furthermore.. by that time of war the arsenal might be 180 000 missiles if not already..

Our first attack in the previous war was on a warehouse of long-range missiles.
Do you know how much intelligence Israel has in Lebanon? They're all collaborators there.
You're excited about the numbers without reading the fine print
119,000 missiles out of 120,000 are short to medium range (up to 75 km) which is the range of the previous war.
A few hundred more rockets that pass this range, and a few dozen more as far as the Negev.
One battery of David sling in the Gush Dan region and the entire center is protected.
Another battery in Be'er Sheva and the entire south is protected.
And dozens of Iron Dome batteries are deployed in the north of each city and all infrastructure complexes.
We all have shelters, and we all have an alarm that gives time to escape.
The last time Hezbollah fired missiles at my house, we entered the building, We heard the boom and a minute later we went outside to play football. It's just like a big fireworks. No one dies of fear and leaves the country because of it.
You are full of hatred, you want us to suffer ah ??
I'm the first to run to an airport ??
In the last war in Gaza, five mortars fell, a few dozen meters from me. I didn't even go into the apc to hide. I stood outside drinking coffee and smoking a cigarette.
We are war-weary, we are not afraid of a few missiles despite your wishful thinking.

 

[mangekyo]

What is the meaning of this? What the hell does "Next War" mean? Are they preparing for a war? Flexing? Barking?

"If Khamenei wants war. then Lebanon will go to war, and every Lebanese [person] will suffer from the next war."

When did anyone except for Israel want war? Wasn't it Israel that invaded Lebanon last time? And the war before that? If Khamenei wants war, he will invade your little shit country.

I swear, they are even worse than U.S. They invade, kill civilians. And blame the other country for being hostile. You fight for and defend your country, they call you a terrorist. You criticise their inhuman actions, they pull the fake holocaust card.

 

[19887]

What is the meaning of this? What the hell does "Next War" mean? Are they preparing for a war? Flexing? Barking?

"If Khamenei wants war. then Lebanon will go to war, and every Lebanese [person] will suffer from the next war."

When did anyone except for Israel want war? Wasn't it Israel that invaded Lebanon last time? And the war before that? If Khamenei wants war, he will invade your little shit country.

I swear, they are even worse than U.S. They invade, kill civilians. And blame the other country for being hostile. You fight for and defend your country, they call you a terrorist. You criticise their inhuman actions, they pull the fake holocaust card.

1.Iran and Hezbollah are the ones who talk about destroying Israel, so Israel explains what will happen if Hezbollah's option is realized.

2.In 2006 Hezbollah invaded Israel and fired a missile at Hammer and kidnapped two bodies, in response Israel
invaded Lebanon.

3.In 1982, the Lebanese themselves invited us to invade to get rid of the PLO