Why Muslims and British did not ban caste system?

[Novus ordu seclorum]

you sure about that...
"spoke"

There was no significant native Farsi, Turkish, or Arabic speaking community in India. Farsi was lingua franca, like English is. Delhi Sultanate had officers and soldiers who fought to liberate Pakistan area from Mongol occupation. You think foreigners would put their life at risk to do that.

 

[Maula Jatt]

There was no significant native Farsi, Turkish, or Arabic speaking community in India. Farsi was lingua franca, like English is. Delhi Sultanate had officers and soldiers who fought to liberate Pakistan area from Mongol occupation. You think foreigners would shed blood to do that.

dude these guys Tughlaqs etc spoke Dari and Pashto as their native languages...
Only Moghuls truly assimilated down the line

outside of Lahore, Indus was almost always in rebellion or they loosely controlled it
don't think they would cared much

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

dude these guys Tughlaqs etc spoke Dari and Pashto as their native languages...
Only Moghuls truly assimilated down the line

Obviously, they spoke those languages only among themselves because there is no larger community of Dari and Pashto speakers in India. However, back then these languages would be part of greater India because Afghanistan did not exist as an independent country until mid 18th century.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Obviously, they spoke those languages only among themselves because there is no larger community of Dari and Pashto speakers in India. However, back then these languages would be part of greater India because Afghanistan did not exist as an independent country until mid 18th century.

If you really want to go down the "greater" part
wasn't that region part of greater Persia than a greater India?

Since the ancient times Taxila (Rawalpindi) was a frontier city and there's a reason for it being called a frontier city as you can see from this map

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

If you really want to go down the "greater" part
wasn't that region part of greater Persia than a greater India?
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Since the ancient times Taxila was a frontier city and there's a reason for it being called a frontier city

The foundational civilization history of India includes the areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan. You cannot go into historical academics of this region ignoring ancient India. These areas were part of Indian empires at some point too, such as Ayodhya, Maurya, Delhi and Mughal. There were also part of other empires, but I have never seen, for example, Persians claiming Pakistan as part of their foundational history.

 

[Maula Jatt]

The foundational civilization history of India includes the areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan. You cannot go into historical academics of this region ignoring ancient India. These areas were part of Indian empires at some point too, such as Ayodhya, Maurya, Delhi and Mughal. There were also part of other later empires, but I have never seen, for example, Persians claiming Pakistan as part of their foundational history.

I am saying Khorasan, Baluchistan, these Swat valleys all these areas you are claiming to be greater India are probably 5x more Iranic, been part of their empires a lot longer, look at the ethnicity map

I don't know why are you trying to make them something they are not?

and your lot not the only greater psychos, Irani nationalist are also like that- they talk shit about Pakistan to Iraq to Azerbaijan and host of other countries for their forgetting of "roots"

and India claims both the foundational history of south India and Indus its own at the same time?...

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

Nobody speaks Arabic, Persian, Pashto, or Turkish in India. They were Hindustani.

Nobody speaks now. Doesn't mean they didn't speak before. Guess what was the official court language of Mughals or the Tughlaqs etc

 

[Maula Jatt]

Nobody speaks now. Doesn't mean they didn't speak before. Guess what was the official court language of Mughals or the Tughlaqs etc

Mughals became Hindustanis though down the line, for others you are right

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Nobody speaks now. Doesn't mean they didn't speak before. Guess what was the official court language of Mughals or the Tughlaqs etc

Everybody speaks English though they left. There was never a time people commonly spoke Turkish, Pashto or Arabic in similar fashion. Maybe Farsi among the educated because it was lingua franca.

I am saying Khorasan, Baluchistan, these Swat valleys all these areas you are claiming to be greater India are probably 5x more Iranic, been part of their empires a lot longer, look at the ethnicity map

I don't know why are you trying to make them something they are not?

and your lot not the only greater psychos, Irani nationalist are also like that- they talk shit about Pakistan to Iraq to Azerbaijan and host of other countries for their forgetting of "roots"

and India claims both the foundational history of south India and Indus its own at the same time?...

I am not in competition with Persian Empire. That history is part of Pakistan. You obviously missed the point about ancient India because of ideology. Western academics are not psychos to include Pakistan region when they talk of ancient India.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Everybody speaks English though they left. There was never a time people commonly spoke Turkish, Pashto or Arabic in similar fashion. Maybe Farsi among the educated because it was lingua franca.

I am not in competition with Persian Empire. That history is part of Pakistan. You obviously missed the point about ancient India because of ideology. Western academics are not psychos to include Pakistan region when they talk of ancient India.

forget Pak for a while, you are calling Afghanistan=India because for a minuscule part of history you shared a country with them
this was the issue- they have their own history independent of India

 

[xyxmt]

It is a proof that Muslims did not interfere in Hinduism and neither converted anyone by force otherwise most dalits would have been easy target for conversion as most Christians in India and Pakistan were low cast Hindus.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

forget Pak for a while, you are calling Afghanistan=India because for a minuscule part of history you shared a country with them

Read John Keay's book. India: A History.
Is he a psycho . Plenty of other references. Not my fault Pakistan ideologically ignores ancient Hindustani history. Similarly, Bharatis ideologically ignore Medieval Hindustani history.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Read John Keay's book. India: A History.
Is he a psycho . Plenty of other references. Not my fault Pakistan ideologically ignores ancient Hindustani history. Similarly, Bharatis ideologically ignore Medieval Hindustani history.

Forget Pak for a while, you're in your own preconceived notions of what I am saying

You were saying Afghanistan isn't a foreign entity and was part of greater India

I am saying no they were not, whatever time they shared with India was a minuscule amount of thier history

Like you can't go around claiming everything in sight as greater India, it doesn't work that way

Indonesia becomes greater India through south India

And if Afghans decide to follow that logic, they can say Delhi is part of greater India

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Forget Pak for a while, you're in your own preconceived notions of what I am saying

You were saying Afghanistan isn't a foreign entity and was part of greater India

I am saying no they were not, whatever time they shared with India was a minuscule amount of thier history

Like you can't go around claiming everything in sight as greater India, it doesn't work that way

Indonesia becomes greater India through south India

And if Afghans decide to follow that logic, they can say Delhi is part of greater India

Afghans were part of greater India, made their homes in today's India. They were Hindustani. For example, Sher Shah Suri was a Bihari Pathan, born in Bihar, buried in Bihar, and he fought for greater Hindustan.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Afghans were part of greater India, made their homes in today's India. They were Hindustani. For example, Sher Shah Suri was a Bihari Pathan, born in Bihar, buried in Bihar, and he fought for greater Hindustan.

How?
Why isn't Indonesia part of greater India
or why can't afghans call Delhi part of greater Afghanistan?

@jus_chillin, look at em bro , this is weird ah ngl