Why Muslims and British did not ban caste system?

[Varunastra]

I am tracing my Sharif ancestry [Maurya]. Bihar Sharif or ancient Nalanda. I am not Persian, Aryan, or Central Asian. The ancestry originated from Iraq. Maurya could mean Ma'Arya which means 'With Arya' in Semitic. Bihar is Semitic too which means Oceans.

The Mauryans though spoke Magadhi Prakrit as per inscriptions, which in turn is related to vedic Sanskrit and is ancestor to eastern indo-aryan languages like bihari, bengali, odia, assamese. The etymology is thus attributed to the same lines.
Ashoka_Edicts
But I guess to each their own beliefs.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

He would still be kin of Adam and what would set him apart would not be his ethnicity but radical new ideology even if your argument is entertained.

Many theologians believe belief in one God predates belief on multiple gods.

If I identify someone as British would you add well but what sets him apart is not his ethnicity. Your argument here is beside the point or not relevant.

 

[Mentee]

I do not know a Syed who behaves that way. The people you are talking about are probably not blood Syed.

Does it even matter if hes a pure blooded Syed? Is Allah Swt going to circumvent the Devine Law for his sake? Brother i must warn you to come to terms with reality and stop with this utopian romanticism. This denial that a Syed or anyother tribe cannot do anything wrong is the root cause of ignorance and ignorants make good slaves.


You go to the local barber shop or any cafee and will find people drenched in their ethnic and racial pride . We are this, my great grand daddy was this , all others are " damned" we are suppose to be like This , how come such and such things could happen to us and we gonna remain the chosen bunch for eternity- -'----


This same attitude was the forte of jews when they would sit in a meeting of their teeny tiny sectarian make and believe fantasy world fed to them by none other than the whispering iblees. Didn't Allah warned us about such things?


Now do tell me who are these gaddi nasheens ruling and enslaving people since the British took charge? They used to snitch on freedom fighters and to this day are part of almost every single cabinet . Do they have no conscious that they are serving iblees every time they vote in favour of an imf loan or pass a bill serving their vested interests ? Can't they realize what Allah Swt told us about siding with the money lenders? What have they achieved for their own constituencies till this date? Those places look ghost towns where people are deliberately deprived of education and basic necessities- --------- yeah but I got my certificate to paradise coz peer sahab said so like peer sahab could nauzubillah "coerce" The Supreme Lord into forgiving a villain . They are possessed from past many generations and the only thing to be blamed for that is their Pride AND Greed.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

The Mauryans though spoke Magadhi Prakrit as per inscriptions, which in turn is related to vedic Sanskrit and is ancestor to eastern indo-aryan languages like bihari, bengali, odia, assamese. The etymology is thus attributed to the same lines.
Ashoka_Edicts
But I guess to each their own beliefs.

I didn't say they spoke something else. Sanskrit, however, was an acquired language, meaning it was not native to the Kshatriya Deva. Sanskrit was native only to the Aryan and to the original Brahman caste. Sanskrit is not my native language.

 

[El Sidd]

If I identify someone as British would you add well but what sets him apart is not his ethnicity. Your argument here is beside the point or not relevant.

Probably off topic lol

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Does it even matter if hes a pure blooded Syed? Is Allah Swt going to circumvent the Devine Law for his sake? Brother i must warn you to come to terms with reality and stop with this utopian romanticism. This denial that a Syed or anyother tribe cannot do anything wrong is the root cause of ignorance and ignorants make good slaves.


You go to the local barber shop or any cafee and will find people drenched in their ethnic and racial pride . We are this, my great grand daddy was this , all others are " damned" we are suppose to be like This , how come such and such things could happen to us and we gonna remain the chosen bunch for eternity- -'----


This same attitude was the fortie of jews when they would sit in a meeting of their teeny tiny sectarian make and believe fantasy world fed to them by none other than the whispering iblees. Didn't Allah warned us about such things?


Now do tell me who are these gaddi nasheens ruling and enslaving people since the British took charge? They used to snitch on freedom fighters and to this day are part of almost every single cabinet . Do they have no conscious that they are serving iblees every time they vote in favour of an imf loan or pass a bill serving their vested interests ? Can't they realize what Allah Swt told us about siding with the money lenders? What have they achieved for their own constituencies till this date? Those places look ghost towns where people are deliberately deprived of education and basic necessities- --------- yeah but I got my certificate to paradise coz peer sahab said so like peer sahab could nauzubillah "coerce" The Supreme Lord into forgiving a villain . They are possessed from past many generations and the only thing to be blamed for that is their Pride AND Greed.

Seems you are in your own cocoon. I did not say Syed can do no wrong. Abu Jahl and Abu Lahab were Syed Sharif clan from Prophet Ibrahim and Quran Sharif says they are in Hell.

 

[Mentee]

Seems you are in your own cocoon. I did not say Syed can do no wrong. Abu Jahl and Abu Lahab were Syed Sharif clan from Prophet Ibrahim and Quran Sharif says they are in Hell.

Then whats the point in arguing about the validity of any man belonging to such and such tribe? The moment anyone Syed or non Syed thinks he's superior to the other in any way there's a possibility that ALLAH Swt could disown and hand him over to the devil to have his way with him.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Then whats the point in arguing about the validity of any man belonging to such and such tribe? The moment anyone Syed or non Syed thinks he's superior to the other in any way there's a possibility that ALLAH Swt could disown and hand him over to the devil to have his way with him.

Abrahamic Covenant is by genealogy. They were leaders of humanity. Syed means leader. Google Ram Sumer. Sumer in Sanskrit means leader.

 

[Mentee]

Abrahamic Covenant is by genealogy. They were leaders of humanity. Syed means leader. Google Ram Sumer. Sumer in Sanskrit means leader.

By that definition jews should still be considered the leaders even though they voilated every provision of the covenant . And you can slide in your lineage too for obvious reasons --------- anyhow i feel obligated to accept the interpretation of a former christian minister wrt to the gospel as it's also validated by The Quran (second chapter). The guy got fired over speaking the truth as he shook the foundations of a people so full of theirselves . So blind they were in upholding their ethnic and racial pride that nobody even took the literal translation of the gospel into account



Now to anyone who thinks himself the blue eyed of Allah Swt coz he can trace his DNA to some saint a couple of centuries ago and by this virtue considers every one around him to be a lowlife is highly advised to get over this delusion he's been living all his life for the Angel of death neither discriminates nor fall short of executing the order as directed .

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

By that definition jews should still be considered the leaders even though they voilated every provision of the covenant . And you can slide in your lineage too for obvious reasons --------- anyhow i feel obligated to accept the interpretation of a former christian minister wrt to the gospel as it's also validated by The Quran (second chapter). The guy got fired over speaking the truth as he shook the foundations of a people so full of theirselves . So blind they were in upholding their ethnic and racial pride that nobody even took the literal translation of the gospel into account



Now to anyone who thinks himself the blue eyed of Allah Swt coz he can trace his DNA to some saint a couple of centuries ago and by this virtue considers every one around him to be a lowlife is highly advised to get over this delusion he's been living all his life for the Angel of death neither discriminates nor fall short of executing the order as directed .

You are projecting your assumptions on others.

Abrahamic Covenant in the Quran 22-78 And strive for Allah with the striving due to Him. He has chosen you and has not placed upon you in the religion any difficulty. [It is] the religion of your father, Abraham.

Jews who are descendants of Prophet Ibrahim [as] are geneologically Syed/Sharif, that doesn't mean they are all going to Heaven. I made that clear before.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I wonder if Indus people practiced caste system
I heard they didn't believe in a religion in the first place? but honestly I don't buy this
@Indus Pakistan

In Hindusim caste is mandated in the Manusmiriti texts. Read this -

Casteist Verses from Manusmriti – Law Book of Hindus




Manu divides Hindus into four varnas i.e. casteism. He not only divide Hindus into four varnas, he also grades them. Besides prescribing rank and occupation Manu grants privilege to swarnas and imposes penalties on the shudras.The status of the Shudras in the Hindu society as prescribed by Manu the Law-giver and the Architect of Hindu society. There are so many Codes of the Manu Smriti against the Shudras which are below:

Casteist Verses from Manusmriti – Law Book of Hindus - Velivada - Educate, Agitate, Organize

Manu divides Hindus into four varnas i.e. casteism. He not only divide Hindus into four varnas, he also grades them. Besides prescribing rank and occupation Manu grants privilege to swarnas and imp…

velivada.com

With regards to the question you posed not enough is know to be able to have clear idea of their social system however from the layout of the cities one can surmise they appeared to be a equitable society.

 

[Maula Jatt]

In Hindusim caste is mandated in the Manusmiriti texts. Read this -

Casteist Verses from Manusmriti – Law Book of Hindus




Manu divides Hindus into four varnas i.e. casteism. He not only divide Hindus into four varnas, he also grades them. Besides prescribing rank and occupation Manu grants privilege to swarnas and imposes penalties on the shudras.The status of the Shudras in the Hindu society as prescribed by Manu the Law-giver and the Architect of Hindu society. There are so many Codes of the Manu Smriti against the Shudras which are below:

Casteist Verses from Manusmriti – Law Book of Hindus - Velivada - Educate, Agitate, Organize

Manu divides Hindus into four varnas i.e. casteism. He not only divide Hindus into four varnas, he also grades them. Besides prescribing rank and occupation Manu grants privilege to swarnas and imp…

velivada.com

With regards to the question you posed not enough is know to be able to have clear idea of their social system however from the layout of the cities one can surmise they appeared to be a equitable society.

Our people were always a friendly bunch, I am sure it was equitable society

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

The muslims actually did provide them with an opportunity. Become muslim and u are equal to all. Its the reason many hindus converted, they found respect and equality in Islam. Brits on the otjer hand had no intention of saving or fixing anyone. They were colonial looters and they sucked all the wealth they could.

Not even one percent of converted Muslims became a lord of importance. It was always Turkish, Arab, Persian or Afghan lords or nobles. Malik Kafur tried becoming one, but was put down with such vengeance. Invaders considered converts with an contempt and didn't consider them warriors or fit to rule. Infact they had Hindu rulers as generals, nobles etc.
Other than Tipu and his father Hyder I couldn't find any native Muslim rulers of importance. Even Tipu and Hyder weren't technically king as well. They ruled in the name of their Kings.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Not even one percent of converted Muslims became a lord of importance. It was always Turkish, Arab, Persian or Afghan lords or nobles. Malik Kafur tried becoming one, but was put down with such vengeance. Invaders considered converts with an contempt and didn't consider them warriors or fit to rule. Infact they had Hindu rulers as generals, nobles etc.
Other than Tipu and his father Hyder I couldn't find any native Muslim rulers of importance. Even Tipu and Hyder weren't technically king as well. They ruled in the name of their Kings.

Nobody speaks Arabic, Persian, Pashto, or Turkish in India. They were Hindustani.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Nobody speaks Arabic, Persian, Pashto, or Turkish in India. They were Hindustani.

you sure about that...
"spoke"