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Why Modi is no Lee Kuan Yew

a leader should not only take decisive strides on economic front, but he must also take along the minorities and weaker sections. He needs a large heart to go along with a sharp mind and a sweet tongue.

There are things being done like the new economic export policies, or the investments flowing in, or the steel production picking up. The are not being shown by the media, If I did not have access to twitter or defence forums it would be very hard to know such things were happening. Media wants to keep crying about other things.

If taking "minorities along" means becoming sickular and saying nonsense like "minorities have first rights on resources" then that is BS we can do without.

He should not only claim to be protecting minorities but also be doing so by the people he claims to be protecting. Recent outbursts by former top cop Julio Ribiero and former Naval chief Sushil Kumar speak for themselves.
Modi cant do much when the problem is in peoples heads, if they feel they are being attacked, due to kids hitting a cricket ball into a church, and other such manufactured incidents... then it's only their stupidity (people at this point should know about the how the media manipulates things...).

Anyway LKY was good for his country, we will have to find some one good for us, and seems like Modi is the best choice (quite happy with what he has done till now, but more could be done, but lets wait for 5 years).
 
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We were not always 1 billion.

Man, national pride is something good but too much of it is also not good.

Here's a situation:

When in 60s, 70s etc when sometimes water supply was running short and people had to queue up in lines, on seeing a water truck what would you people do? Now say after some filling, if the water truck man said that there is only limited water for the rest of the people and that it will be back with more water in some time, what would your reaction be?
All Indians would be hitting each other, pushing each other out of their way to get the remaining water.

In other countries, all these people would attack the truck, then go to their office and attack them for not making sufficient arrangements for a locality of so many thousands of people despite earlier information. Had Indians done that for 10 years, the successive regimes in India would have been shit scared and would have worked like Singaporean government, delivering results.

Let's face it; as they say, there is no smoke without something burning.

We Indians have also destroyed our country systematically by keeping ourselves above the system and a sense of self-deserved entitlement.

1- Having dozens of kids with no responsibility of seeing how to bring them up giving them basic facilities.
2- Demanding reservations based on caste, creed, state, language, minority/majority etc.
3- Demanding free 'everything' while giving nothing back to the country in terms of productivity.
4- Fighting among each other rather than fighting governments to give proper infrastructure to be productive.
5- No sense of discipline, self-inflated egos and unnecessary suspicions over each other.
6- Entitlement mentality.

Take the case of Railway budget hike. There have been ministers even in useless UPA where they meant well to increase the rail fare by Rs 5. What has happened? Furore over it. No one understands that this will improve rail facilities and infrastructure and make rail safer.

People start howling about expenses and force to keep the fares low knowing that this will harm them later.

In a country like Singapore, Dubai etc, the government will just announce a hike; take it or get out of the country and find some other homeland.

What India needs is an authoritative republic government that can actually make people disciplined, be meritocratic and be ruthless in dealing with populism, while giving equal opportunity for all to grow.

Only then we Indians will get disciplined.

Democracy Indian style won't work.



And then we remember what a Harvard educated finance minister and a super doctorate in economics did to the economy for 10 years. :lol:

Then we appreciate what is happening now.



You make very good points about how India can change to be better. Unfortunately, many Indians here are too prideful and they only care about achievements that they can boast. Unless Indians exercise self introspection and change from within, India will not make progress. So the question is whether Modi just has great plans to build the country or does he also have plans to elevate the thoughts of Indian people?
 
We have miles to go to even resemble little Singapore. We have lot to learn from these eastern tigers.
 
You make very good points about how India can change to be better. Unfortunately, many Indians here are too prideful and they only care about achievements that they can boast. Unless Indians exercise self introspection and change from within, India will not make progress. So the question is whether Modi just has great plans to build the country or does he also have plans to elevate the thoughts of Indian people?

Simply put; under the current form of democracy, although far better than the mad zoo we had a year ago, is still very very difficult to attain what Singapore has.

The only way to become that way is to have PM Modi in absolute power like Mr. Lee was during his 30 year reign in Singapore. He has a vision and a desire to achieve this vision; but most Indians, selfish (in many cases including myself), don't understand the perspective and the long term gains his decisions will make. Many of us are used to populism for 60 years and therefore it will take some time before the self-entitlement mentality is burnt off and reality is accepted.

Most people of India who haven't travelled to USA or Singapore or developed countries think that money grows on trees in these countries and that people just sit their behinds off while doing nothing.

I must say that the REAL ESTATE market must be clamped down with an iron fist here. Housing is so expensive in metro cities in India that people simply cannot afford it.

Either that, or a super increase in income and drastic cut in income tax slabs.

Not to mention removal of any life-long job guarantees from the government sector, which is the most unproductive sector in the country.
 
We have miles to go to even resemble little Singapore. We have lot to learn from these eastern tigers.

Lee did state that India was stitch together by the ?British railway. So maybe Indians should experiment separating out states like Goa out of the control of the Union gov and see what happens
 
And then we remember what a Harvard educated finance minister and a super doctorate in economics did to the economy for 10 years.

Then we appreciate what is happening now.

Just because one Harvard educated failed means education has no value.

Bring back Rabri devi as Bihar CM by your logic.
 
Lee Kuan Yew (LKY or Lee ), Singapore’s founding father who passed away last month, could be counted as one of the few people in history, who became a legend in his own life time. What is a legend without these heroic tales, sometimes factual, but often embellished with the imagination of the story teller? Let me share with you a couple of stories I heard during my stay there last year that offered me some new perspectives.

First was from a first generation immigrant businessman from Tamil Nadu, who had moved in the late nineties. His simple measure of the success of LKY and his policies was that the day he landed, the Singapore dollar was worth Rs 20 and now around Rs 50.

His little story on LKY was about the great man’s relationship with Tamils, an ethnic minority that accounts for about 7 per cent of the population today. In the early days, when LKY was still a London returned lawyer and budding politician, there were often violent clashes between various ethnic communities.


“The ethnic Chinese people were too soft. They were too scared to even see blood. But, the Tamil people were hardened by physical labour in the port and plantations. They were rough and tough. They used to get things done for LKY. They played a key role in his rise. That’s why LKY reserved a special place for them, when the country got independent. He paid back by making Tamil one of the four official languages,” he told me while driving me around in his bright red car.

It is tales such as these that have built the goodwill and adulation that LKY enjoyed back home in Tamil Nadu. So much that anxious Lee fans misplaced a much alive Tony Tan’s picture in their rush to put up flex banners to pay respect to Lee.

The second story, that came from an immigrant engineer, was about a mysterious 'ghost writer' who scripted the parliamentary debates, which were then later read out by members of parliament. He apparently wrote speeches for both participants of the debate, one vehemently supporting the move by the ruling party and a second less vehemently supporting it. These then got reported as a ‘serious discussion’ and ‘heated debate’ in the media, which LKY had a stranglehold on.

These little accounts offer their own narrative about how people perceived LKY, the different facets of his personality and his relationship with minorities, the media and the parliament.

Now, it is no secret that our prime minister Narendra Modi holds LKY in high regard. He also takes inspiration from the legendary Singaporean as he sets out on his ambitious plans to build the country’s infrastructure from scratch and transform its economy. He was also seen in Sunday’s funeral.

Not a small number of Modi’s fans and followers see in him the Lee Kuan Yew of India. Journalists are finding to their horror that he is already going his idol’s way in certain aspects.

But, is that all there is to become LKY? In a post on his website airconditionednation.com, Cherian George, my professor at Singapore who is now teaching in Hong Kong, very lucidly explains how many world leaders say they want to be the next Lee Kuan Yew, “but conveniently ignore some of his most important qualities.”

One of the most respected, independent voices in the ‘airconditioned nation’,(also title of the book he wrote), George identifies three important qualities of LKY namely – zero tolerance towards corruption, his role as an unshakeable bulwark against majoritarian tendencies and his determination to ensure adequate minority representation in the parliament.

Though George talks about the poor records of other wannabe LKYs like Thaksin Shinatwara of Thailand and Indonesia’s Suharto on the issue of corruption, he doesn’t make any such observation about Modi or BJP.

While Modi himself has declared “Naa Khaaoonga, Naa khane doonga,” this intent is yet to be seen to have solidified into action. What action was taken against the top cop, who met corporate middlemen at his home office? Where is the transparency in appointments to public sector units and banks? Have the corporate sponsors of people in race to bag top posts at sectoral regulatory bodies and big banks been identified and nailed? What happened to the issue of the conflict of interests of lawmakers on corporate retainerships? Awaiting to read something on that. Hope some minister will tweet soon.

On the issues of minority protection and curbing of majoritarian tendencies, Modi and BJP have a long way to go, George argues suggesting Modi considering himself Lee Kuan Yew at this stage would be akin to or even worse than the guffaw of Tamil mourners mistaking Tan for Lee. I can’t find any credible evidence to the contrary.

“Yes, he (LKY) was a firm leader who stretched the limits of democratic government to breaking point in order to get things done. But a leader who makes minorities feel unwanted, insecure and fearful? That’s not a face that Singaporeans recognise,” the piece titled ‘Mistaken Identity’ concludes. That's not a face ordinary Indians would approve of either.

To be recognized as India’s Lee Kuan Yew, a leader should not only take decisive strides on economic front, but he must also take along the minorities and weaker sections. He needs a large heart to go along with a sharp mind and a sweet tongue. He should not only claim to be protecting minorities but also be doing so by the people he claims to be protecting. Recent outbursts by former top cop Julio Ribiero and former Naval chief Sushil Kumar speak for themselves.
Narendra Modi is no Lee Kuan Yew, not yet.

Why Modi is no Lee Kuan Yew | Business Standard On The Beat

LOL. This article is too immature and stupid.

When did Mr.LKY take along minorities in his decision?? Even Mr.LKY will laugh at this article if he's alive -_-
 
be ruthless in dealing with populism

@Tshering22

Why?

Among all, Singapore government gives cash to elderly people, subsidy for low income group.
In Singapore, houses are subsidized for lower income groups (for them to own). Something that does not happen in welfare Skandinavian states who are all well off ...
 
Simply put; under the current form of democracy, although far better than the mad zoo we had a year ago, is still very very difficult to attain what Singapore has.

The only way to become that way is to have PM Modi in absolute power like Mr. Lee was during his 30 year reign in Singapore. He has a vision and a desire to achieve this vision; but most Indians, selfish (in many cases including myself), don't understand the perspective and the long term gains his decisions will make. Many of us are used to populism for 60 years and therefore it will take some time before the self-entitlement mentality is burnt off and reality is accepted.

Most people of India who haven't travelled to USA or Singapore or developed countries think that money grows on trees in these countries and that people just sit their behinds off while doing nothing.

I must say that the REAL ESTATE market must be clamped down with an iron fist here. Housing is so expensive in metro cities in India that people simply cannot afford it.

Either that, or a super increase in income and drastic cut in income tax slabs.

Not to mention removal of any life-long job guarantees from the government sector, which is the most unproductive sector in the country.


I don't agree with what the gov should do in your post. Gov should get out of the way of the people.
 
Simply put; under the current form of democracy, although far better than the mad zoo we had a year ago, is still very very difficult to attain what Singapore has.

The only way to become that way is to have PM Modi in absolute power like Mr. Lee was during his 30 year reign in Singapore. He has a vision and a desire to achieve this vision; but most Indians, selfish (in many cases including myself), don't understand the perspective and the long term gains his decisions will make. Many of us are used to populism for 60 years and therefore it will take some time before the self-entitlement mentality is burnt off and reality is accepted.

Most people of India who haven't travelled to USA or Singapore or developed countries think that money grows on trees in these countries and that people just sit their behinds off while doing nothing.

I must say that the REAL ESTATE market must be clamped down with an iron fist here. Housing is so expensive in metro cities in India that people simply cannot afford it.

Either that, or a super increase in income and drastic cut in income tax slabs.

Not to mention removal of any life-long job guarantees from the government sector, which is the most unproductive sector in the country.

and do you think 90% people in USA can afford houses in downtown?? Housing in Cities are expensive and will be forever. I feel housing in Indian cities are quite cheap when compared to other countries.
 
and do you think 90% people in USA can afford houses in downtown?? Housing in Cities are expensive and will be forever. I feel housing in Indian cities are quite cheap when compared to other countries.

Actually houses in US suburbs are pretty cheap when compared to suburbs here. It is simply because of the land availability.

Downtowns are expensive but so are the pays better in these countries (one reason why people from developing world flock to go to these countries).

Your country has expensive housing mainly due to constraints on land availability. And yet you have a very well planned and managed country.

In India, it is not shortage of land but the zero desire of governments till now to develop other cities like metro cities.

If we had 10-20 more metro cities all planned and managed like some iconic cities (Chandigarh, Ahmedabad, Bhubaneswar. Pondicherry etc), the housing won't be so freak expensive here.

In our country we have 2 extremes because of the above problem:

cheap housing where there are no jobs OR excellent jobs where one can never afford a house.

be ruthless in dealing with populism

@Tshering22

Why?

Among all, Singapore government gives cash to elderly people, subsidy for low income group.
In Singapore, houses are subsidized for lower income groups (for them to own). Something that does not happen in welfare Skandinavian states who are all well off ...

Singaporeans also work far more than per capita Indian (officers in government, PSUs and even many private firms). Imagine if every single government department that we have was generating revenue, how rich our govt would be to give such handouts in India.
 
be ruthless in dealing with populism

@Tshering22

Why?

Among all, Singapore government gives cash to elderly people, subsidy for low income group.
In Singapore, houses are subsidized for lower income groups (for them to own). Something that does not happen in welfare Skandinavian states who are all well off ...

Singapore Government doesn't give free cash to elderly people, what they get is CPF. Singapore doesn't have "Poverty Line".

in HDB, we don't get any discounts, we get grants! and houses are not owned by citizens, it's under 99 years lease from government.
 
I feel housing in Indian cities are quite cheap when compared to other countries.

@Established_1965

Mumbai prices are higher than Dubai..For example.

Singapore Government doesn't give free cash to elderly people, what they get is CPF. Singapore doesn't have "Poverty Line".

in HDB, we don't get any discounts, we get grants! and houses are not owned by citizens, it's under 99 years lease from government.

Singapore gives cash incentives to seniors....

That 99 years lease is renewable. And you are able to sell your house and keep the profit, just as any other country..
 
I feel housing in Indian cities are quite cheap when compared to other countries.

@Established_1965

Mumbai prices are higher than Dubai..For example.

I have no idea about Mumbai but my belief is that ur comparing prime property but I'm talking about normal blocks and flats where normal people like u and i stay :)
 
Writing article for the sake of it...
apples & oranges... Singapore & India! What worked for Singapore will not work for India.. even LKY wouldn't have been able to work that magic in a Country like India with such a diverse dynamics!
 
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