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As India's north continues to struggle with extreme pollution levels, the story has put a fresh spotlight on air quality in cities across Asia.

Beijing has long been notorious for its smog - but statistics show that India, Pakistan and Bangladesh have worse air by far.

So why is South Asia so much more polluted?

Asia's most polluted cities
Of the world's most polluted 30 cities, 22 are in India, according to research by IQ AirVisual, a Swiss-based group that gathers air-quality data globally, and Greenpeace.

The remaining eight cities are all in Pakistan, Bangladesh and China - but the list doesn't include Beijing, which comes in at number 122.

Just looking at global capitals, it's also Asian cities that top the ranking.

World's most polluted capitals
Sorted by average yearly PM2.5


Source: World Air Quality Report
Looking at overall countries, it's Bangladesh that has the worst air, followed by Pakistan and then India.

All these rankings are based on average air quality per year.

As these countries have very different densities of measuring stations and transparency of data, the statistics have to be read with a degree of caution. But they certainly indicate an overall trend.


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World's most polluted countries
Sorted by estimated average PM2.5


Source: World Air Quality Report
Why is India worse off than China?
Pollution in urban areas is usually a mix of different factors - mostly traffic, fossil fuel burning power plants and heavy industries.

What differentiates China from India is that in the latter, there is still a lot of burning of agricultural stubble when farmers want to clear their fields. The burning usually takes place in autumn.

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Media captionThe BBC's Vikas Pandey shows what it's like driving through the high levels of smog in Delhi
"In this episode, the big problem really seems to have been the agricultural burning," assistant professor Thomas Smith of the London School of Economics told the BBC.

"That's one thing that China has tackled. All agricultural burning has been banned, full stop."

A global overview for fires and thermal abnormalities is made available by Nasa, and allows users to track developments over past days and weeks.

The area north-west of Delhi shows a highly unusual concentration of fires, Prof Smith points out.

"And you can't underestimate how important agricultural burning is - even though people often think only of cars and heavy industry as the causes."

In the wake of the pollution spike, India's Supreme Court ordered a stop to stubble burning in the states around Delhi.

But the city's situation is made worse by the colder winter air which is more stagnant, trapping the pollutants in place.

Prof Smith also points out that "while India is largely reactive, Beijing tends to be more proactive and preventative to try to stop the problems from happening in the first place".

What does pollution feel like?
Pollution levels are categorised by measuring the levels of dangerous particles in the air. The result is then classified on a scale from good to hazardous.

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Media captionWatch how children in India's capital Delhi are affected by air pollution
"The effect of pollution is different for every person," explains Dr Christine Cowie of the University of New South Wales.

"Some people complain about irritation to the eyes, to the throat, exacerbations of wheeze and asthma symptoms. Coughing is certainly also a very common symptom - even in non-asthmatic people.

"And of course it's the elderly who suffer, the very young and people with pre-existing respiratory illnesses like or heart problems."

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She explains that even a short exposure to the unhealthy or worse pollution levels can trigger an asthma attack or increase the risk of a stroke. The longer the exposure, the greater the risks.

And the ways to protect oneself are limited.

There's the advice to stay indoors, to reduce physical exercise and to wear a mask - but in many poorer parts of the world, none of these options really work for regular people.

"It is toxic air," says David Taylor, professor of tropical environmental change at the National University of Singapore.

"It must be very uncomfortable - especially if you're having to work outside and if you're having to do jobs that require quite a lot of energy."

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Image captionAir quality in Delhi has deteriorated into the "hazardous" category
"You feel like it's hard to breathe," agrees Prof Smith.

"It's like doing hardcore exercise when you just take a walk outside. And depending on the kind of pollution, you can of course also smell it in the air."

How does it compare to Europe or the US?
Today, pollution levels in Europe, Australia and the US are significantly lower than the extreme readings that India has experienced in the past few days.

But it's not always been like that. London, for instance, was notorious for its pollution during much of the 19th and early 20th centuries.

As late as 1952, the so-called Great Smog covered London with a thick toxic layer of pollution, bringing the city almost to a standstill for days, not unlike the situation in Delhi now. It's thought to have resulted in thousands of deaths.

While London experienced a different mix of pollutants, "it probably wasn't far off what's currently happening in Delhi," says Mr Taylor.

Back then, power stations along the Thames were major polluters of the British capital.

In fact - much of what we know today about the health impact of air pollution dates back to the experiences of the London smog during those years.
 
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rss says its Pakistan and China.

As India's north continues to struggle with extreme pollution levels, the story has put a fresh spotlight on air quality in cities across Asia.

Beijing has long been notorious for its smog - but statistics show that India, Pakistan and Bangladesh have worse air by far.

So why is South Asia so much more polluted?

Asia's most polluted cities
Of the world's most polluted 30 cities, 22 are in India, according to research by IQ AirVisual, a Swiss-based group that gathers air-quality data globally, and Greenpeace.

The remaining eight cities are all in Pakistan, Bangladesh and China - but the list doesn't include Beijing, which comes in at number 122.

Just looking at global capitals, it's also Asian cities that top the ranking.

World's most polluted capitals
Sorted by average yearly PM2.5


Source: World Air Quality Report
Looking at overall countries, it's Bangladesh that has the worst air, followed by Pakistan and then India.

All these rankings are based on average air quality per year.

As these countries have very different densities of measuring stations and transparency of data, the statistics have to be read with a degree of caution. But they certainly indicate an overall trend.


ADVERTISEMENT
inRead invented by Teads
World's most polluted countries
Sorted by estimated average PM2.5


Source: World Air Quality Report
Why is India worse off than China?
Pollution in urban areas is usually a mix of different factors - mostly traffic, fossil fuel burning power plants and heavy industries.

What differentiates China from India is that in the latter, there is still a lot of burning of agricultural stubble when farmers want to clear their fields. The burning usually takes place in autumn.

p07t3z22.jpg


Media captionThe BBC's Vikas Pandey shows what it's like driving through the high levels of smog in Delhi
"In this episode, the big problem really seems to have been the agricultural burning," assistant professor Thomas Smith of the London School of Economics told the BBC.

"That's one thing that China has tackled. All agricultural burning has been banned, full stop."

A global overview for fires and thermal abnormalities is made available by Nasa, and allows users to track developments over past days and weeks.

The area north-west of Delhi shows a highly unusual concentration of fires, Prof Smith points out.

"And you can't underestimate how important agricultural burning is - even though people often think only of cars and heavy industry as the causes."

In the wake of the pollution spike, India's Supreme Court ordered a stop to stubble burning in the states around Delhi.

But the city's situation is made worse by the colder winter air which is more stagnant, trapping the pollutants in place.

Prof Smith also points out that "while India is largely reactive, Beijing tends to be more proactive and preventative to try to stop the problems from happening in the first place".

What does pollution feel like?
Pollution levels are categorised by measuring the levels of dangerous particles in the air. The result is then classified on a scale from good to hazardous.

p07t5tjy.jpg


Media captionWatch how children in India's capital Delhi are affected by air pollution
"The effect of pollution is different for every person," explains Dr Christine Cowie of the University of New South Wales.

"Some people complain about irritation to the eyes, to the throat, exacerbations of wheeze and asthma symptoms. Coughing is certainly also a very common symptom - even in non-asthmatic people.

"And of course it's the elderly who suffer, the very young and people with pre-existing respiratory illnesses like or heart problems."

_109530299_airqualityindex-nc.png

She explains that even a short exposure to the unhealthy or worse pollution levels can trigger an asthma attack or increase the risk of a stroke. The longer the exposure, the greater the risks.

And the ways to protect oneself are limited.

There's the advice to stay indoors, to reduce physical exercise and to wear a mask - but in many poorer parts of the world, none of these options really work for regular people.

"It is toxic air," says David Taylor, professor of tropical environmental change at the National University of Singapore.

"It must be very uncomfortable - especially if you're having to work outside and if you're having to do jobs that require quite a lot of energy."

_109515172_hi057748420.jpg
Image copyrightAFP
Image captionAir quality in Delhi has deteriorated into the "hazardous" category
"You feel like it's hard to breathe," agrees Prof Smith.

"It's like doing hardcore exercise when you just take a walk outside. And depending on the kind of pollution, you can of course also smell it in the air."

How does it compare to Europe or the US?
Today, pollution levels in Europe, Australia and the US are significantly lower than the extreme readings that India has experienced in the past few days.

But it's not always been like that. London, for instance, was notorious for its pollution during much of the 19th and early 20th centuries.

As late as 1952, the so-called Great Smog covered London with a thick toxic layer of pollution, bringing the city almost to a standstill for days, not unlike the situation in Delhi now. It's thought to have resulted in thousands of deaths.

While London experienced a different mix of pollutants, "it probably wasn't far off what's currently happening in Delhi," says Mr Taylor.

Back then, power stations along the Thames were major polluters of the British capital.

In fact - much of what we know today about the health impact of air pollution dates back to the experiences of the London smog during those years.
China, Pakistan released poisonous gas to pollute India: BJP leader
 
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China is at a higher elevation maybe the reason why. Correct me if wrong.
 
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When China was hit by smog, the all western media go out by force reporting it like the end of the world, but when India met the same problem, all the western media largely keeps mum. That teaches us how much we trust them.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/04/india/delhi-india-smog-pollution-intl-hnk/index.html

https://www.dw.com/en/india-new-delhi-schools-reopen-as-threat-of-toxic-smog-recedes/a-51133478

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/india-smog-pollution-new-delhi-12061142

https://news.yahoo.com/photos-millions-in-indian-capital-endure-eyeburning-smog-170615235.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/yamuna...ndia-hindu-devotees-for-chhath-puja-festival/

https://news.sky.com/story/new-delh...an-capital-shuts-schools-due-to-smog-11851015

clearly western media is focusing on Indian smog.

You just have confirmation bias and an extremely thin skin.
You believe any reporting on China, if not glowing and kowtowing, is an attack on china.

In reality, its just reporting facts.

Also, you have an agenda to push the narrative that western media can't be trusted so next time they report something on china you can simply dismiss it.
 
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https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/04/india/delhi-india-smog-pollution-intl-hnk/index.html

https://www.dw.com/en/india-new-delhi-schools-reopen-as-threat-of-toxic-smog-recedes/a-51133478

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/india-smog-pollution-new-delhi-12061142

https://news.yahoo.com/photos-millions-in-indian-capital-endure-eyeburning-smog-170615235.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/yamuna...ndia-hindu-devotees-for-chhath-puja-festival/

https://news.sky.com/story/new-delh...an-capital-shuts-schools-due-to-smog-11851015

clearly western media is focusing on Indian smog.

You just have confirmation bias and an extremely thin skin.
You believe any reporting on China, if not glowing and kowtowing, is an attack on china.

In reality, its just reporting facts.

Also, you have an agenda to push the narrative that western media can't be trusted so next time they report something on china you can simply dismiss it.
Comparing to what they reported about China's smog some years back, they are nothing.

Also, you have an agenda to push the narrative that western media can't be trusted so next time they report something on china you can simply dismiss it.
Western media is largely against China is a known fact, are you trying to deny it? there some some reports are relatively not biased to give a facade of fairness, I never said every piece of them is a total lie. Besides, it is an English language forum, I use Chinese media in Chinese language forums.
 
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Comparing to what they reported about China's smog some years back, they are nothing.

That is your opinion. I can't argue with opinion.
you have the right (in the free west at least) to have that opinion.

The fact that the west is not reporting on Indian smog however, is not true. As they clearly are and they are even pointing fingers at the government and crop burning.
 
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Comparing to what they reported about China's smog some years back, they are nothing.


Western media is largely against China is a known fact, are you trying to deny it? there some some reports are relatively not biased to give a facade of fairness, I never said every piece of them is a total lie. Besides, it is an English language forum, I use Chinese media in Chinese language forums.

I am not denying anything, I am just saying that you people are the epitome of the people who cried wolf.
Any slightly negative story that the west reports and you guys start to get your pitch forks and torches.

What that does is make neutral people like me think that you people have thin skins and over react to everything.

Trust me, I hate western media more then anyone, but i hate bullsh!t even more and I have a disease I need to call out bullsh!t any time I see it, from anyone.


If you were smart, you would let the small stuff slide and then when the western media hit you with the big stuff you could say "they are biased"

But when even small stuff make you people go insane, that leads people like me to believe that there is some truth to the reporting.
 
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You just have confirmation bias and an extremely thin skin.
You believe any reporting on China, if not glowing and kowtowing, is an attack on china
.

In reality, its just reporting facts.

Also, you have an agenda to push the narrative that western media can't be trusted so next time they report something on china you can simply dismiss it.

You hit the nail on the head!

This thread is about India (in comparison to China) lol...why is "Western Media" being dragged into this thread? :rolleyes:

The Chinese government has made it a government policy to fix the pollution.

That's awesome, we should all be fixing this problem. It affects us all in the end. :enjoy:
 
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Emission source strength is important factor in air quality. But local/regional meteorological conditions play the decisive role in converting those emissions into atmospheric concentrations. That is the reason we see smog episodes in a particular season in the region, in spite of the fact that traffic and industrial sources are there throughout year with crop residual burning occurring in different/multiple seasons. Since we cannot control meteorology, we are left with the option to control sources in extreme conditions.
we also need to understand that smog makes pollution ‘visible’ as its extreme case. Otherwise, air pollutants exceed safe limits frequently in urban areas of region.

Accurate Air quality monitoring requires a lot of financial resources, skilled human resource and committed Management. Unfortunately, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh all lack adequate monitoring plan in place. So while its safe to assume that air quality in this region is generally bad, comparisons like this are technically less meaningful. While sharing and using this data, lets also keep in mind its limitations.
Regards.
 
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the same thing happens every year and yet nothing is being done about it.
 
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