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Why India Will Displace China as Global Growth Engine
By A. Gary Shilling Dec 17, 2012 5:00 AM GMT+0530

Most of us still look at China, the world’s second-largest economy, as the undisputed leader among major developing countries. In the long run, however, I’m betting on India to emerge as the more significant global economy.
Those who are dazzled by China often forget that much of the rapid growth before 2008 was caused by the shift of global manufacturing from Europe and the U.S., not by domestic-oriented activity. China’s economy remains export-driven, with consumers accounting for only 38 percent of gross domestic product, far below the levels of many developing and developed countries.


Chinese leaders are working to shift toward a more domestically directed economy. They want households to spend more and save much less than the current rate of almost 30 percent. One of the reasons that savings play such a big role is the high value Confucian society puts on providing for one’s family. The Chinese also save to pay for education for their children and to cover health care and retirement costs because there is no equivalent of Medicare and Social Security.
In 2010, the Chinese government promised basic health care for all by 2020. That’s eight years from now, and basic care remains pretty basic. In some rural hospitals, a practical nurse is the most highly trained medical practitioner.


China has also increased minimum wages 20 percent to 30 percent in the last year to enhance consumer incomes and purchasing power. Yet higher pay, notably for factory workers producing goods for foreign companies, is driving low-skilled manufacturing jobs to cheaper venues such as Vietnam, Bangladesh and Pakistan.

Furthermore, Western companies are increasingly resisting the requirement that they transfer technical expertise to Chinese partners as the price of setting up production facilities in China. There is a widespread belief that much of the success of Chinese manufacturers is due to such voluntary technology transfers or outright theft of intellectual property.
China recently reduced its target for real GDP annual growth to 7.5 percent from 8 percent. That target is probably too high as China’s one-child policy leads to a population decline, especially among new labor-force entrants. The number of 15- to 24-year-olds is already dropping and this group is projected to account for 150 million people in 2030, compared with 250 million in 1990. As a result, China’s labor force between the ages of 15 and 65 is expected to peak in 2014.
China’s ample labor has increased GDP growth by an estimated 1.8 percentage points annually since the 1970s, but the contraction will cut into growth by 0.7 percentage point by 2030. At the same time, better conditions in rural areas have reduced the availability of cheap labor in coastal cities.


By contrast, India has had no effective constraints on population growth. China still has the advantage -- with 1.34 billion people last year, compared with India’s 1.24 billion -- though not for too much longer. Furthermore, the age distribution of India’s population is better because of China’s one-child policy, which is now being reconsidered in view of its negative consequences for the country’s long-term labor force and economic growth. This means that the dependency ratio, the proportion of children and senior citizens to working-age people, is expected to continue falling in India in coming decades and to increase in China.


Younger people, of course, tend to be more geographically mobile, flexible in terms of occupation and creative. But these advantages only translate into greater productivity and economic growth if these workers have the right education and training as well as job opportunities.
Several centuries of British colonial rule left India with a vigorous democracy and a parliamentary form of government. As in the U.S., these kinds of institutions are very well adapted to running a large, religiously diverse country where the central government is constrained by increasingly powerful states and weak coalition governments. China, however, remains centrally controlled, with the Communist Mao Dynasty, as I’ve dubbed it, simply replacing the dynasties of old.
The British also left India with a railway system that enabled the relatively easy movement of people and goods in that vast country. By contrast, China doesn’t grant resident status to farmers who move to urban areas in search of work.
And, of course, the British gave India the English language -- very useful in today’s world and a unifying force in a country with hundreds of languages and dialects. India also inherited a legal system that is very different from the Communist Party-dominated courts in China, which feature show trials and foregone convictions, as demonstrated by the recent trial and conviction of Gu Kailai, the wife of the disgraced party leader Bo Xilai.

India is also home to a number of large, sophisticated companies, such as Tata Group, that can compete globally. China, meanwhile, is burdened with government-controlled banks and other hugely inefficient state-owned enterprises that still produce a significant share of GDP and employ a quarter of the workforce.

Indians have a natural bent toward technology, as was pointed out to me by the U.S. ambassador to India when I visited him in his New Delhi office in 1986. The ability of India’s many engineers and scientists to communicate in English is also a big help. Furthermore, the booming information-technology sector relies more on new technologies such as satellite transmission than it does on India’s utilities and inadequate basic infrastructure.


U.S. and European companies outsource many back-office and even legal and medical services to India. Outsourcing now yields about $69 billion in annual revenue, accounting for a quarter of Indian exports. The lower wages in India and English-language skills of call-center employees offer big advantages to this industry.

Another asset for India, as well as China, is a rapidly growing middle class. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP estimates that 470 million Indians, or 38 percent of the population, had annual incomes of between $1,000 and $4,000 in 2010, enough to permit some discretionary spending. The number of consumers with such ready cash is expected to jump to 570 million in a decade, with about $1 trillion in income.

The household-savings rate is high, almost 30 percent. Even so, 82 percent of Indian households had phones, usually mobile, last year. Of the 247 million Indian households, 77 percent owned televisions, and 42 percent had bicycles, motor scooters or motorcycles, though only 10 percent possessed a motor vehicle, according to the 2011 census of India. Furthermore, much of Indian household saving is invested in gold and the dowries of yet-to-be married daughters.
Another strong point is that the Reserve Bank of India is relatively independent of government influence, while the People’s Bank of China is completely controlled by the state. During the recent regime change in China, the PBOC governor, Zhou Xiaochuan, was dropped from the list of 205 members of the Communist Party’s Central Committee and is apparently being forced into retirement. Politicians, not central bankers, call the monetary shots in China.

India has a vigorous and opinionated free press, compared with China’s state-controlled propaganda machine. Internet use in India is expanding, although it is still tiny compared with the U.S. and even its BRIC cohorts: Brazil, Russia and China.
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This article has only one sided view that hype up India. Many Indians will comment on how this article shows that India will be ahead of china. And the Chinese will counter with their arguments. This thread will for sure be a multi page troll thread. I won't be surprise if this thread is locked with a day or two.
 
India is growing less than 5% annually,and from a very low base。

India's dollar GDP has stagnated at about 1.8-2.0 trillion dollars for God knows how many years while in the same time span China's has doubled,with the result that the Chinese economy,including Hong Kong and Macau but excluding Taiwan, will be 5 times India's by the end of this year。

China will continue to expand at rates above 7.5% for the next 10 years,while India will be lucky to average 6% in the next 5 years。

India talks,China acts。

India loves foreigners painting a rosy picture for them,China hates attracting unwanted attention。

China considers it an insult getting herself compared with India,whilst India can't live a day without mentioning China。:omghaha:

There lies the difference between the two countries。
 
This article has only one sided view that hype up India. Many Indians will comment on how this article shows that India will be ahead of china. And the Chinese will counter with their arguments. This thread will for sure be a multi page troll thread. I won't be surprise if this thread is locked with a day or two.

No one here cares a rat's @$$ about whether we are ahead of China or not. Only reasons why comparisons are made to see how deviant from an efficient economy (as executed in a dictatorship) we are.
 
China in 1999( $1 trillion) and in 2005( $2 trillion).
India in 2007( $1 trillion) and in 2013( $2 trillion).:cheers:
Check it from World Bank website.

China is on a downhill growth path but India is on the uphill growth path. This is the difference. Consult with any economist and the answer will be the same.
 
China in 1999( $1 trillion) and in 2005( $2 trillion).
India in 2007( $1 trillion) and in 2013( $2 trillion).:cheers:
Check it from World Bank website.

China is on a downhill growth path but India is on the uphill growth path. This is the difference. Consult with any economist and the answer will be the same.

Uphill growth path. Its true that any more growth for India will be an uphill battle. Isn't India's growth rate about to be surpassed by Pakistan? Check the numbers. India will not grow as fast in the future as it did in the past 8 years. It already had peaked.
 
India is to experience 6% growth in FY13-14, 7% in FY14-15 and above 8% from FY15-16 onwards. But it will be praiseworthy for China if it achieves about 7% growth in 2015. :azn:
 
No one here cares a rat's @$$ about whether we are ahead of China or not. Only reasons why comparisons are made to see how deviant from an efficient economy (as executed in a dictatorship) we are.

I won't categorize China as an efficient economy. An efficient economy would be that of Germany and Japan. China still have a lot of rooms to improve.
 
What an insult comparing a democratic free India to a hegemonist communist autocratic dictatorship controlled by a cabal of self elected mandarins with an iron hand where free speech is taboo, and a state controlled media that dishes out propaganda to suit the puppeteers. Chinese arrogance is going to lead to their downfall.
 
No one here cares a rat's @$$ about whether we are ahead of China or not. Only reasons why comparisons are made to see how deviant from an efficient economy (as executed in a dictatorship) we are.

If you think China's economy is run by a "dictatorship", then no one here will care a rat's @$$ about your comparison.

China in 1999( $1 trillion) and in 2005( $2 trillion).
India in 2007( $1 trillion) and in 2013( $2 trillion).:cheers:
Check it from World Bank website.

China is on a downhill growth path but India is on the uphill growth path. This is the difference. Consult with any economist and the answer will be the same.

Consult with any economist and the answer will be that China is currently in a shifting phase in terms of economic growth pattern and mode of operation. A slower and yet more sustainable growth rate is certainly expected here.
 
India is to experience 6% growth in FY13-14, 7% in FY14-15 and above 8% from FY15-16 onwards. But it will be praiseworthy for China if it achieves about 7% growth in 2015. :azn:

Actually, India growth rate is suppose to surpass China's in 2009. And guess what, it didn't happen. So you have the popular projection of when India will surpass China, which is still 2-3 years out that India will consistently outpaced China. Since this prediction begin about 8 years ago, it have no come to pass. I won't hold my breath until India start to grow faster than China consistently.

Also, these early proponents that India will surpassed China is now disgusted with India. Some people such as Fareed Zakaria had called India the most disappointing countries out of BRICS and even proposed that Indonesia replace India in BRICS.
 
Our economy has bottomed out. The worst is behind us .
And by the way, the day Pakistan will surpass India's growth, it will find itself within India. :pakistan:
 
useless rants.
if india was so good and china so bad then, US would have been going for india's neck n not the chinese one.
almost every point is incomplete and is included just to support the notion that somehow india is going to reach at the top.
too much talk.
 
What an insult comparing a democratic free India to a hegemonist communist autocratic dictatorship controlled by a cabal of self elected mandarins with an iron hand where free speech is taboo, and a state controlled media that dishes out propaganda to suit the puppeteers. Chinese arrogance is going to lead to their downfall.

Interesting, a "communist dictatorship" runs a country that has 30 percent of its corporations privatized and changes its leadership every ten years. :disagree:
 
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