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I am an avowed well-wisher of Pakistan. Like any patriotic Pakistani, I would like to see our neighbour emerge as a prosperous, peaceful, harmonious, stable, secure, united and democratic nation, living in peace and cooperation with all its neighbours. I believe that a resurgent Pakistan, whose population is smaller than all but five countries in the world, can greatly contribute to the progress of South Asia (of which it is an integral part), Asia and the world at large. Pakistan's pain is my pain, and Pakistan's joy is my joy. This is because even though India and Pakistan are two separate, independent and sovereign nations (and so may they remain in future), I share my civilisational, cultural and spiritual identity, as also the priceless heritage of over 5,000 years, with my sisters and brothers across the border. I do not want any harm to come to one who is, after all, an offspring of Mother India.

However, when Pakistan continues to harm itself by trying to harm its neighbours (India and Afghanistan in particular), it's time the rulers and people of Pakistan learnt a few basic lessons. One of them is how to safeguard their national self-respect, sovereignty and independence. So far, in its 70 years of existence, Pakistan has bartered its freedom, honour and sovereignty in pursuit of its flawed goals on so many occasions that it is now being humiliated by the very imperial power it relied on, assisted, and received arms and alms from.

Which self-respecting nation, when it gets globally insulted by a tweet by an American president (no respecter of the honour and sovereignty of weak nations), does nothing but offer a weak, formulaic protest? Donald Trump accused Pakistan of "lies and deceit". He almost described Pakistan, without using those derogatory words, as a beggar and cheat nation that took "33 billion dollars in aid over the last 15 years". He blamed it for not fulfilling its obligations and castigated it for "fooling" the aid-giver. Worst of all, in a charge that sticks, Trump slammed Pakistan for giving "safe haven to terrorists".

A day after this New Year slur, the US has blocked the promised 225 million dollars in military aid to Islamabad.


Trump's tweet is so unprecedentedly undiplomatic, indeed downright demeaning, that the least Islamabad must do is ask the American ambassador to go back home and drastically reduce the level of diplomatic ties with Washington. It must reject any further "aid", military or otherwise, from the Trump administration, and also stop all further assistance to America in its war operations in Afghanistan.

But after having done what it must to assert that it is not a vassal of any world power, Pakistan - its army, its political establishment, its intelligentsia and its people - must do some honest soul-searching. Why have they come to experience this ignominy? Their introspection should begin from the time their country joined hands with USA and Saudi Arabia in defeating the now defunct Soviet Union which invaded Afghanistan in 1978. The fact that India did not condemn the Soviet invasion strongly enough, and did not demand the pull-out of its troops from a country which is a member of the South Asian civilisational family, is one of the low watermarks in our foreign policy. Not surprisingly, the Soviet Union paid a heavy price for its unjust and imperialist action. But what did Pakistan gain from its own foreign policy fantasies?

Nearly four decades after the two competing neo-imperialist powers destabilised the region, the worst sufferer, apart from Afghanistan, is Pakistan itself. Far from gaining "strategic depth" in Afghanistan, it is finding itself caught in a strategic death-trap. The woes of Afghan people continue and they too must introspect on the dissensions and divisions in their own society. But has Pakistan remained safe from the fire which it fuelled with state-assisted terrorism, religious extremism and sectarian bigotry? The fire has consumed the lives of more than 50,000 innocent people, a majority of them Muslims. More Pakistani soldiers and security personnel have been killed in terrorist attacks than in all the wars Pakistan has fought with India. Dozens of books by Pakistan's own scholars have bemoaned that the lure of lethal arms from western powers and petrodollars from Saudi Arabia, which came along with the toxic export of Wahhabism, has transformed and deformed Pakistani society beyond recognition. So much so that none other than the country's army chief, Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa, in a recent speech expressed his deep concern over the mushrooming of madrassas in Pakistan, and asked the startling question: "What will the students of these madrassas become - maulvis or terrorists?"

The fact that the terrorists born and nurtured in Pakistan in the wake of the war in Afghanistan started to target India was only natural. For this was a deliberate policy of the Pakistani army and ISI in which its political establishment too became complicit. Pakistan's civilian-military establishment protected, and continues to protect, terror groups that kill innocent people and security personnel in India. What have Pakistan's rulers gained by doing so? Are they even an inch closer to achieving their goal in Kashmir or in destabilising India? No. But they have certainly made a very large Indian population turn viscerally anti-Pakistan. They have unwittingly helped the traditional haters of Muslims and Pakistan in our country become stronger. They have, predictably, also weakened the influence of those Indians who are committed, despite all the threats and adversities, to the cause of India-Pakistan peace and normalisation.



It is for this reason that tens of thousands of Indians are today celebrating Trump's tweet. Not a small number of them would be even more jubilant tomorrow if Trump were to make Pakistan itself the target of America's "war on terror".

This is clearly a moment of reckoning for Pakistan. For its own peace, progress, prosperity and security - indeed, for its own future survival - Pakistan must uncompromisingly fight terrorism and Islamist extremism without lectures and threats from any outside powers.

But this is also a moment of cool and objective reflection for Indians of all political persuasions. Should India really rejoice when the one lecturing and threatening Pakistan is Trump, a disgrace to all that is good about America? Have we Indians become so blind with prejudice as to forget that America and other western powers have contributed enormously to the growth of terrorism and Islamist extremism around the world? Firstly, all of them are buddies and protectors of despotic Saudi Arabia which is the fountainhead of religious fanaticism and whose interference in the internal affairs of Pakistan is alarmingly on the rise. Secondly, although the dictatorships in the Muslim countries in West Asia are by no means blameless, the US and its allies are principally responsible for the deaths, destruction and destabilisation in that region. ISIS and other murderous organisations operating in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen and other countries are at least partly a product of the unjust and criminal acts of USA and its allies in the name of their so-called "war on terror".

Closer home, even though the Soviet Union was the original culprit in destabilising Afghanistan, USA has destabilised it further by waging its other "war on terror" which began in 2001 and is still continuing. Thus, when Trump in his tweet blamed Pakistan for giving "safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan", all the peace- and freedom-loving people in Afghanistan, Pakistan and also India must ask this fundamental question: is imperial America a part of the solution or a part of the problem? In the name of hunting down terrorists, hasn't the USA killed many more innocent people in both Afghanistan and Pakistan? And isn't this one of the main reasons why Al-Qaeda, Taliban and other extremist organisations have been able to radicalise Muslims in these two countries and elsewhere?

In short, the anti-Pakistan hysteria in India should not blind us to the fact that far from putting an end to terrorism, America's 16-year-long war in Afghanistan, which frequently spills over into Pakistani territory, has emboldened Islamist extremism and terrorism in the region. Now Trump seems to want to indefinitely prolong USA's military operations in Afghanistan. In this scenario, if, God forbid, a terrorist attack takes place in America, Pakistan could get hit harder. And the terror groups in the region would become stronger. The fires of West Asia will come closer to South Asia. Is this welcome to the ultra-nationalists in India for whom Trump has become a hero?

Pakistan must of course exorcise the menace it has created for itself and others in the region and the world. But should India be myopic? Should we not correct our own wrongdoings in Kashmir? Should we rely on outside powers to resolve the problem we have with Pakistan? Or should both India and Pakistan revive our own civilisational wisdom to find a path to reconciliation on the basis of justice and non-violence?

(The writer was an aide to India's former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee.)
 
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Yeaahh!!! We really dont give a fcuk about india, please kindly stuff your advice

You cant occupy kashmir then expect us to be friends


Trump is a loud mouthed orange buffoon, and like any loud mouthed bufoon he is prone to retarded outburst like a drunk racist uncle

Pakistan needs to concentrate on our own strategic requirements not what others want

The U.S can either pay to utilise ports, roads and infrastructure

Or it can not pay and fcuk off somewhere else

Either way no amount of sanctions will hurt more than following a ill thought out American plan at a time America is led by a goof

Concentrate on building alliances with friendly nations, ensure emnity with india and that we are able to defend ourselves and try to deal with a corrupt political elite that is hindering necessary change in Pakistan
 
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Yeaahh!!! We really dont give a fcuk about india, please kindly stuff your advice

You cant occupy kashmir then expect us to be friends


Trump is a loud mouthed orange buffoon, and like any loud mouthed bufoon he is prone to retarded outburst like a drunk racist uncle

Pakistan needs to concentrate on our own strategic requirements not what others want

The U.S can either pay to utilise ports, roads and infrastructure

Or it can not pay and fcuk off somewhere else

Either way no amount of sanctions will hurt more than following a ill thought out American plan at a time America is led by a goof

Concentrate on building alliances with friendly nations, ensure emnity with india and that we are able to defend ourselves and try to deal with a corrupt political elite that is hindering necessary change in Pakistan


You Pakistanis are shouting four letter words left right and centre at USA and Trump

I have never seen so much resentment to USA on this thread.

You are all shooting from the HIP and acting with your BALLS

Reality is SOME ONE in your leadership needs to get a GRIP and try to soften the USA anger

This nonsense of we don't need USA we don't need their money we will shut down air routes etc

Is easier said THN DONE

PUSH COMES TO SHOVE and USA calls your bluff and SAYS try shutting a ROUTE ??? THEN you lose a few F16 in few minutes ................THEN what ????????
 
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The author is an emotional idiot who forgets the origin of 26/11 attacks.
Indians are neither celebrating nor condemning the trump tweet. At the best we are spectators and nothing more. The issue is between US & pakistan and its none of our business.

US & pakistan will fight today & connive tmmrw lets not be taken in by the melodrama.
 
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You Pakistanis are shouting four letter words left right and centre at USA and Trump

I have never seen so much resentment to USA on this thread.

You are all shooting from the HIP and acting with your BALLS

Reality is SOME ONE in your leadership needs to get a GRIP and try to soften the USA anger

This nonsense of we don't need USA we don't need their money we will shut down air routes etc

Is easier said THN DONE

PUSH COMES TO SHOVE and USA calls your bluff and SAYS try shutting a ROUTE ??? THEN you lose a few F16 in few minutes ................THEN what ????????

We are quite calm I assure you, indignant at the ramblings of a internationally recognised goof of a president sure but have any official Pakistan statement been anything less then reasonable?

Its not about needing the U.S or not, bottom line is U.S has failed in Afghanistan, has no clear strategy or plan but wants Pakistan to get involved with full committal

Sanctions wont be as bad as following a failed plan

Pakistan needs to release reasonable statements (if the U.S wants to bluster it can)
Keep its eye on our strategic interests and needs
Follow through with the plan that has been put in place with allies such as China, Turkey Islamic Alliance etc to safeguard our future on our terms

Just like we didnt go into Yemen because the arabs wanted us too we wont follow a stupid American plan because the yanks are frustrated in Afghanistan
 
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LOL.......
 
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Hehehe...this guy’s advice to Pakistan is to send back the American ambassador and stop all aid to WOT.

This directed at a country with no economy to speak of, completely dependent on remittances and sundry exports to the West and it’s allies, and only one friend of international consequence in the whole world.

Great advice - I hope Pakistan takes it. :lol:
 
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Hehehe...this guy’s advice to Pakistan is to send back the American ambassador and stop all aid to WOT.

This directed at a country with no economy to speak of, completely dependent on remittances and sundry exports to the West and it’s allies, and only one friend of international consequence in the whole world.

Great advice - I hope Pakistan takes it. :lol:

I know modi master strokes have isolated Pakistan, and their media have caused mental distortion in their public who think India is a super power and Pakistan is isolated, poor and has no economy. keep living in your dreams.
 
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I won't waste my 3 minutes of life reading $hit from NDTV. Flushed!
 
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Hehehe...this guy’s advice to Pakistan is to send back the American ambassador and stop all aid to WOT.

This directed at a country with no economy to speak of, completely dependent on remittances and sundry exports to the West and it’s allies, and only one friend of international consequence in the whole world.

Great advice - I hope Pakistan takes it. :lol:
:lol: :lol: Are you living in an alternative universe?
 
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I won't waste my 3 minutes of life reading $hit from NDTV. Flushed!

The article is thought provoking.. India will not escape the fire should harm comes to Pakistan... You don't have to like everything written to broaden your understanding of matters.
 
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The article is thought provoking.. India will not escape the fire should harm comes to Pakistan... You don't have to like everything written to broaden your understanding of matters.

India will do everything which could eliminate Pakistan - thought of consequences has neither stopped them in the past, nor will prevent them in the future.

Such articles are more for Pakistani audience - and they want us to think that Indians will probably not disturb Pakistan because they know they will be disturbed as a result - But as matter of fact, from the year 2000 onward (from the last 17 years) India is actively working against Pakistan. What do you think, why have been acting and would this "not establishing Pakistan" thought had never crossed their minds before?
 
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You Pakistanis are shouting four letter words left right and centre at USA and Trump

I have never seen so much resentment to USA on this thread.

You are all shooting from the HIP and acting with your BALLS

Reality is SOME ONE in your leadership needs to get a GRIP and try to soften the USA anger

This nonsense of we don't need USA we don't need their money we will shut down air routes etc

Is easier said THN DONE

PUSH COMES TO SHOVE and USA calls your bluff and SAYS try shutting a ROUTE ??? THEN you lose a few F16 in few minutes ................THEN what ????????

All the better for India, No?
Shooting down F-16s is also easier said than done. We have shut down US route and guess what US had to back down not the other way round. Back than we had the most corrupt government and Pakistan the most weakest. It was 2011, today its 2018. 7 years latter Pakistan is in a much stronger position to negotiate with the US which is why you are seeing such a response which has not happened in the past.
 
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All the better for India, No?
Shooting down F-16s is also easier said than done. We have shut down US route and guess what US had to back down not the other way round. Back than we had the most corrupt government and Pakistan the most weakest. It was 2011, today its 2018. 7 years latter Pakistan is in a much stronger position to negotiate with the US which is why you are seeing such a response which has not happened in the past.
Not saying it's better for India, nor worst for India. The US - Pak issue simply has no effect on India. At least this might get a PR for India to sideline talks. Other than that, we cannot get too close to the US, as yours is a good example of what will happen.

Speaking of cutting ties with US, I don't think making an enemy out of US is a good idea. They do have the resources to overcome any immediate setback in ties. While it can only hurt Pak economy, I don't think much of angry reaction from Pakistan. But to cool the situation down.

And what is good for India is Pakistan clashing with the US. Your politicians and mil knows it.
Trump tweets 'fire' are gonna settle down after a while and Pakistan might agree to some of US demands.
 
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