Why I no longer support Ukraine

[nang2]

While I believe they had certain reasons to stop Ukraine from going pro-NATO and stopping them from attacking Donbass,
this whole invasion was a big mistake. A big blunder. It was as if they had no clear target or strategy. In the end,all they did was alienate Ukrainians even more. It's clear now that this government has to change. And change from the inside. Incompetence and corruption have showed and they had been continuing this with little clear target other than saving face,probably.

You know I'm generally pro-Russian,not always and definetely not as Apollon thinks,but this whole war was a wrong move. They could have just protected or retook the whole of Donbass and end it there and go to negotiations for Ukraine to become a neutral country etc.

Now though,it's obvious that Putin can't stay or if he wants to stay,he has to change a lot of things. And himself too.

On the other hand,the West has shown gigantic russophobia and idiotic behavior with all the sanctions,from trade and individual's assets to even banning sales of PC games to Russian and Belarussian people to even not letting Russians in some stores in Western countries.

This madness will only worsen the way Russians and Belarussians view the West and make Westerners despise Russians even more,after all this propaganda.

In the end,the warhawks in NATO and specifically USA and Britain,started a new Cold War and Putin and his government have displeased a big part of their own people,army and allies.

Just like having a canker sore. It is painful and very annoying. Was the mouth in the wrong for giving you a canker sore or was it just a reaction for something that leads to it?

 

[Foinikas]

Just like having a canker sore. It is painful and very annoying. Was the mouth in the wrong for giving you a canker sore or was it just a reaction for something that leads to it?

I blame NATO for this,but Putin shouldn't have invaded the country. He should have just protected Donbass.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I blame NATO for this,but Putin shouldn't have invaded the country. He should have just protected Donbass.

Russia's invasion protect Donbas.

 

[Warking]

Nonsense.

I am Ukranian myself, I have friends and family there.
One friend is from Lugansk, she's ethnically Russian, separatists have literally kidnapped her and her coworkers in a factory she worked at, separatists started this whole conflict after the previous president was found to be very corrupt, he stole tens of billions of dollars, so he ran away and a president that wasn't a dog of Putin was elected.

Basically, this situation is extremely similar to Gaza. Extremists hijacked Donetsk and Lugansk, launch mortars from within the city and turning villages into battlefields, all sponsored, funded and armed by Russia.

Just like Hamas took control of Gaza, launches artillery at Israeli cities, turning Gaza into a battlefield, all sponsored, funded and armed by Iran.

Also, I call BS on the fact that you ever sympathized with Ukraine.

Damn a Israeli lecturing about human rights and oppression!

 

[nang2]

I blame NATO for this,but Putin shouldn't have invaded the country. He should have just protected Donbass.

Once his tanks move in Donbass, it will be called an invasion whether he just intended to protect Donbass or not since no other country has recognized the independence of Donbass yet. Therefore, why not play it like a real invasion to the best advantages for yourself?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

everyone support Ukraine until

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I doubt this is mandatory as it shows up in the purchase area in the restaurant receipt. If it was mandatory it would likely show up under the subtotal near the service charge as technically anything above the subtotal line are items that can be returned/refunded. Things below it can't.

What is more likely is the restaurant put some undo pressure on them to donate...maybe some pushy Ukrainian waiter/waitress.

 

[KaiserX]

I support both Ukraine and Russia.
I support them because the more Europe fights each other the lower the chances they invade another Muslim country.
Ukraine was 3rd largest contributor of troops to invasion of Iraq.
Russia illegally occupies Muslim lands and invaded Syria.
Both should fight it out and Europe should continue fighting so we Muslims can get some peace for once.

This is the mindset we should have as nationalist. Let these bastards destroy eachother for all we care. Russians though have ALOT more muslim blood on their hands. Thus I will side with the Ukrainians a bit more.

 

[Englishman]

Nonsense.

I am Ukranian myself, I have friends and family there.
One friend is from Lugansk, she's ethnically Russian, separatists have literally kidnapped her and her coworkers in a factory she worked at, separatists started this whole conflict after the previous president was found to be very corrupt, he stole tens of billions of dollars, so he ran away and a president that wasn't a dog of Putin was elected.

Basically, this situation is extremely similar to Gaza. Extremists hijacked Donetsk and Lugansk, launch mortars from within the city and turning villages into battlefields, all sponsored, funded and armed by Russia.

Just like Hamas took control of Gaza, launches artillery at Israeli cities, turning Gaza into a battlefield, all sponsored, funded and armed by Iran.

Also, I call BS on the fact that you ever sympathized with Ukraine.

Hi

I fully support the bombing of your friends and family in Ukraine.

As a zionist....you shouldn't have a problem with that.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Russians though have ALOT more muslim blood on their hands. Thus I will side with the Ukrainians a bit more.

Ukrainians are far more brutal than Russians.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Hi

I fully support the bombing of your friends and family in Ukraine.

As a zionist....you shouldn't have a problem with that.

It's okay lol, I know you guys are evil pieces of trash, the whole undemocratic Arab-Muslim-Russian-Chinese block are like that

 

[Sayfullah]

This is the mindset we should have as nationalist. Let these bastards destroy eachother for all we care. Russians though have ALOT more muslim blood on their hands. Thus I will side with the Ukrainians a bit more.

I will side with whoever is losing at the moment. I want both to be at par strength in Ukraine so it’s a long decades long war which will leave all sides involved in ruins.

 

[kingQamaR]

It's okay lol, I know you guys are evil pieces of trash, the whole undemocratic Arab-Muslim-Russian-Chinese block are like that

Jews are Middle Eastern. Russia slaughtered you So did Ukraine. Every single European country tried to annihilate you at one time or another.

The people who told you Jews are white Europeans lied to you. Please don't continue those baseless lies.

 

[Englishman]

It's okay lol, I know you guys are evil pieces of trash, the whole undemocratic Arab-Muslim-Russian-Chinese block are

Calm down buddy

Why did you find that so offensive? It's nothing personal OK.

All I said was, I support your family getting bombed in Ukraine. Why are you taking that personally?

I thought you of all people would be sympathetic to my cause.

- Ukraine was historically USSR. We have a bunch of individuals who wish to reclaim that past...rightly or wrongly...thats what they BELIEVE.

You not OK with that? or can only Jew's ethnically cleanse a population based on their beliefs?

Long live Russia

 

[Bengal71]

I will side with whoever is losing at the moment. I want both to be at par strength in Ukraine so it’s a long decades long war which will leave all sides involved in ruins.

Exactly as I think. I also hope NATO sends troops.

 

[Beny Karachun]

- Ukraine was historically USSR. We have a bunch of individuals who wish to reclaim that past...rightly or wrongly...thats what they BELIEVE.

You not OK with that? or can only Jew's ethnically cleanse a population based on their beliefs?

Long live Russia

USSR collapsed, it remained united through force, not will, Russia acknowledged Ukraine's independence and had embassies for 30 years after the USSR collapse, suddenly they don't exist because they were part of the USSR? No one wants to be Russian.

Jews don't ethnically cleanse, if we did the Palestinians you talk about wouldn't live anywhere close to Israel, if at all.