Why don't more Muslims speak out against the wanton destruction of Mecca's

[xyxmt]

more recently our muslims are not giving any importance to anything thats not related to Islam. Culture, social life, art have no importance left at all. Looks like we need robotic praying human with no need to think. I dont know when this generation become more muslim than all past generation including the prophet and his companions, but their religion becomes so week that mere sight of a budhist monument threaten their beliefs. why we suddenly become the protector of namoos-e-risalat when every one around us claims to be the best of muslims then who do they think is going to disgrace the name of our beloved prophet. We are insisting on hanging a 14 year old child for she dropped her book which had prophet's name in it but we are going to sell old new papers which has Quranic scribes on it so we dont loose 10 Rs.

We should be happy we are not the generation when God used to unleash his wrath for their bad deeds, by God we need it most than any previous generations.

 

[Splurgenxs]

OFF topic RANT..no intention to pun seriously concerned.

YAr WTFFF is this....plz tell me fr fks sake u dont find anyhting wrong with this...i just had to post it.

and im not trolling ,\ive got much shittier material to troll with but i want sincere answer ....does this look ok to u Pakistani muslims?

Yaa chot bacca to dekho ,kya he yeh!!!!?

 

[Solomon2]

I say its wrong and they say "Yalla, itla barra" (Get lost/F Off!). Now what should I say?

You are such a Pakistani! The mentality hasn't changed in forty years!

Ask yourself, what would you do if Israel was bulldozing the Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem? You wouldn't bother appealing to the Israelis, would you? What would you do? And what stops you from acting the same way towards the Saudis?

 

[KingMamba]

What can Muslims do these damn Salafists have taken over backed by their enormous oil wealth that we just cannot match. Most of all the Saudis living inside the kingdom believe the monarchy is doing alright and they themselves are the ones who should be speaking out first and foremost. Also if any Pilgrim speaks out they are just deported.

You are such a Pakistani! The mentality hasn't changed in forty years!

Ask yourself, what would you do if Israel was bulldozing the Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem? You wouldn't bother appealing to the Israelis, would you? What would you do? And what stops you from acting the same way towards the Saudis?

The difference is the Zionazis wouldn't dare as it would undoubtedly lead to war whereas the Saudis are not destroying any holy mosques just the infrastructure surrounding them which most people don't really care about. The Saudis did however try to bulldoze the tomb of the Prophet and they were stopped after objections from Muslims the world over and the tomb is still there.

 

[KingMamba]

Major Question: why do the Indians care so much?

Answer- They don't they just want Muslims to be at each others throats.

 

[Solomon2]

The difference is the ******* wouldn't dare as it would undoubtedly lead to war -

Don't be daft. Israel captured the Temple Mount as a result of a war. They could have done whatever they wanted with it then and the war proved nobody would be able to stop them.

...whereas the Saudis are not destroying any holy mosques just the infrastructure surrounding them which most people don't really care about -

But Asim and others do. Let these people speak for themselves, if they dare.

The Saudis did however try to bulldoze the tomb of the Prophet and they were stopped after objections from Muslims the world over and the tomb is still there.

Was it the tomb that was the issue or Muhammed's home, which the Sauds did indeed bulldoze? link

 

[darkinsky]

Answer- They don't they just want Muslims to be at each others throats.

never had said better myself

 

[KingMamba]

Don't be daft. Israel captured the Temple Mount as a result of a war. They could have done whatever they wanted with it then and the war proved nobody would be able to stop them.

But Asim and others do. Let these people speak for themselves, if they dare.

Was it the tomb that was the issue or Muhammed's home, which the Sauds did indeed bulldoze? link

No the destruction of the mosque was never attempted though yes you have control of the mount but destroying the mosque itself and Al Aqsa would even alienate your loyal Muslim populace. It was specifically his tomb they did not bulldoze it because they feared widespread anti-Saudi protests and the Saudi monarchy likes to keep itself in good graces among Muslims worldwide.

 

[Solomon2]

No the destruction of the mosque was never attempted though yes you have control of the mount but destroying the mosque itself and Al Aqsa would even alienate your loyal Muslim populace. It was specifically his tomb they did not bulldoze it because they feared widespread anti-Saudi protests and the Saudi monarchy likes to keep itself in good graces among Muslims worldwide.

I could dispute with you the reasons why Israel didn't destroy Al Aqsa but that would simply divert you more from the topic you don't want to face, which is why Pakistanis and many other Muslims are prepared to scream and protest and start political movements when Israel is even suspected of doing something deemed offensive while at the same time letting the Sauds off the hook for their truly destructive culture-destroying deeds.

 

[KingMamba]

I could dispute with you the reasons why Israel didn't destroy Al Aqsa but that would simply divert you more from the topic you don't want to face, which is why Pakistanis and many other Muslims are prepared to scream and protest and start political movements when Israel is even suspected of doing something deemed offensive while at the same time letting the Sauds off the hook for their truly destructive culture-destroying deeds.

The thing with the Saudis is that their monarchy has local support and the locals think the Saudis are doing the right thing also their doctrine is continuously shipped overseas so others also do not see a big deal with what they are doing. Personally I think they are idiots but nobody will say nothing unless they do something drastic like start bulldozing mosques or going after the tomb again.

 

[Solomon2]

The thing with the Saudis is that their monarchy has local support [So what?] and the locals think the Saudis are doing the right thing [So what?] also their doctrine is continuously shipped overseas so others also do not see a big deal with what they are doing. [So what?]

All these points are disputable.

Personally I think they are idiots -

This point is not. You are wrong. The Sauds keep hundreds of billions of dollars of the peninsula's wealth for themselves, have weathered the Arab Spring successfully, have millions of loyal followers, and are quite simply the most successful family/clan in history. What would it cost to your self-esteem to admit that rather than airily dismiss them as "stupid"? Can you find the reason why you're wearing blinders?

 

[474474]

nutins gonna happen, to many saudi worshipping whabis around. These guys played their cards well, they did enough propoganda that many cant believe Islam=/=Saudi Arabia

 

[474474]

I say its wrong and they say "Yalla, itla barra" (Get lost/F Off!). Now what should I say?



Sometimes vatta utha is needed. Sometimes Awaz utha.

Awaz wahan uthai jaati hai jahan at least 10 percent toh sunnay walay hon.

ta3al az-*** yabnish****** ummak *****
yep, i know the usual. it sounds poetic to me for some reason

Don't stop there. Why does speaking out have no effect?

Speaking out involves using billions of $$$ in oil money to build fortress-madrassas in isolated poor regions around the country. Can we do that?
Worked for the saudis, but i cant imagine how it;ll work against them

You are such a Pakistani! The mentality hasn't changed in forty years!

Ask yourself, what would you do if Israel was bulldozing the Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem? You wouldn't bother appealing to the Israelis, would you? What would you do? And what stops you from acting the same way towards the Saudis?

You still think all of us are the same

 

[Kompromat]

Zameen junband na junbad miyaan Gul Mohammed

 

[Banu Umayyah]

So much nonsense in this thread. The first thing that needs to be clarified is that NO religious building was or is being destroyed. Old houses and buildings around the haram are being bought and cleared by the government to make room for facilites for hajj and umrah. There has been clearing of sahaba graves in the past but that's to prevent idolatry and grave worshipping(considered polytheism by Islam) that is so wide spread in some muslim countries specially where shiasim and sufism is widespread. No one can dare touch the prophet's tomb, that's nonsense, you can come to Madinah to visit it. I agree that many historical building have been unnecessarily destroyed, but 1) they hold no religious value and 2) as I said before, we do what ever we want in Mecca and Madinah.