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Why Did Afghanistan Just Suspend a Request for Heavy Weaponry from India?

Utter nonsense! Do read the historical ties between the peoples of India and Afghanistan.

Historically always been the slave-slave master relationship.

Lahore was the capital of the Mughals, explains cultural and historical influence of Pakistanis.
 
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Historically always been the slave-slave master relationship.

Lahore was the capital of the Mughals, explains cultural and historical influence of Pakistanis.

Actually it was delhi... lahore came much later... probably due to the insurgency of Abdullah Bhatti.. Akbar shifted his capital to Lhr,.
 
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First of all India doesn't export any heavy weaponry and the new Afghan govt wants to build military ties with Pakistan and China, both of whom can service any demands the President Ghani has.

When you have no idea about India's heavy weponry, you should keep that mouth shut. You truly come across retarded when you do that.

You mean pakistan will now give them heavy weaponry ? Cause the list includes Russian helicopters "financed" by the generous country. Pakistan makes Russian helicopters ? Like I said , you just come across as retarded.

China will give them heavy weaponry ? The Chinese helis and other stuff ? I highly highly doubt teh Afghan army wants that. It has a shopping list like I said, and they are look for a financier. Ala Egypt deal style.

Look at the Pakistanis come out of their holes. This tribe that tribe brotherhood, retarded comments et el..

On topic :

Ghani is good for Afghanistan. Make no mistake about the fact that ghani has come due to an incumbency factor. He also is aware that if mullah Omar or his present equivalent comes to Kabul, pak army and raheel sharief will be the first ones to give them international recognition once again. This time, China also will approve under the table. But Then again, this $25 mil weapons list is in the centre of anti Taliban plan.

I will love to see cash strapped Pakistan dole out $25 mil to Afghanistan. I would love that. Honestly. Why ? Because I know that these will be used to kill Pakistan's non state actors in Pakistan. So, Pakistan wants to pay for it, fcuk yeah ! Let them by all means.

Secondly, 6 cadets in PA academy ? 6 ? Wasn't there a thread here in PDF about how the Taliban and the ANA, Afghan army will train together ? That's a joke by the way.

India is staying in Afghanistan. And india is staying on LoC also. Deal with it kids.

@WebMaster , @Oscar @waz this horus guy has deleted my answers and banned me before just because it wasn't good looking for an admin. So, i'm just tagging you. Thanks fellas.
 
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First of all India doesn't export any heavy weaponry and the new Afghan govt wants to build military ties with Pakistan and China, both of whom can service any demands the President Ghani has.

I think that is more due to the China.They can export such weaponry for discount rate.
We dont have any weaponry export.But that is not going to reduce our influence.We are already created a mighty network through our development program.
 
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India tried to exploit Afghans and backstab them. Thanks to Chinese tip off, they found out about India's true intention in time.
 
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I hope Afghanistan really is serious about building ties with Pakistan. I have seen that the people though-seem to hate us Pakistanis.
 
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Afghanistan needs schools, colleges, universities, hospitals, power plants, sports stadiums and peace as well !
Indians are actively involved in infrastructure development of Afghanistan in a big away . Afghan happy with India's help than Americans .

But anyway when a country get stability it needs arms to maintain peace . Internal and external . Example no civilian should think that few mob can over throw the democratic process of Afghanistan. And Afghanistan already lost their land to Pakistan . which they will defend. Or even to negotiate with Pakistan they need some decent force . Russia China US and India and sell arms. But money is what matters . We have many weapons to sell . But we yet to take that initiatives . Few hundreds of Arjun tanks along with Pinaka and other tactical mean weapon system can create create headache to any decent army .Leave winning but can do heavy damage . So in future Afghanistan will be armed . It's Very Important .Like Schools and roads.
 
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We don't want to sell our weapons :P

But don't worry . Future export to Afghan are very possible . Lots of weapons needed to strengthen Afghan Military . Tanks howitzer guns war plans etc .All are maturing in India and China . So both can provide arms to Afghanistan in near future . India will have good chance if they get cash from US .

The coalition forces have billions of dollars worth of equipment in Afghanistan, which incidentally haven't been completely transferred to Afghanistan forces...when such armament isn't of much use to Afghan forces then what's the point of sending some more?

One more issue is, even if it was requested it would have been rejected because most of the equipment would have ended up with the taliban in some way and god knows where they will get used in the future, including even in terrorist attacks in pakistan which of course will add to their bs about foreign involvement....The reason too why NATO doesn't want to leave stuff behind.
 
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The coalition forces have billions of dollars worth of equipment in Afghanistan, which incidentally haven't been completely transferred to Afghanistan forces...when such armament isn't of much use to Afghan forces then what's the point of sending some more?

One more issue is, even if it was requested it would have been rejected because most of the equipment would have ended up with the taliban in some way and god knows where they will get used in the future, including even in terrorist attacks in pakistan which of course will add to their bs about foreign involvement....The reason too why NATO doesn't want to leave stuff behind.


WE can have less capable version of our tanks by replacing with cheep engines in the name of export variant ;) By the way I agree what u have said . It's still unstable because they don't have proper ground forces . Which we are trying to sort by training them . It will increase I the coming years and decades .
 
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Indians are actively involved in infrastructure development of Afghanistan in a big away . Afghan happy with India's help than Americans .

But anyway when a country get stability it needs arms to maintain peace . Internal and external . Example no civilian should think that few mob can over throw the democratic process of Afghanistan. And Afghanistan already lost their land to Pakistan . which they will defend. Or even to negotiate with Pakistan they need some decent force . Russia China US and India and sell arms. But money is what matters . We have many weapons to sell . But we yet to take that initiatives . Few hundreds of Arjun tanks along with Pinaka and other tactical mean weapon system can create create headache to any decent army .Leave winning but can do heavy damage . So in future Afghanistan will be armed . It's Very Important .Like Schools and roads.
'and Afghanistan already lost their land to Pakistan, which they will defend ' :o:
 
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Or that they got offers from China who can make faster and give them without any complex paperwork unlike our Indian bureaucracy.
 
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'and Afghanistan already lost their land to Pakistan, which they will defend ' :o:
:o: Do even heard about Darand Line ? and 1948 invasion of Afgan border ... It's still unstable settlement between Afghanistan and Pakistan due to mistakes made by British rulers ... Let me explain with this .



Durand Line: the line of Evil


Balochistan, along with the North West Frontier Province (N.W.F.P) are the victims of an imaginary line, called Durand Line, which was described by Hamid Karzai, the Afghan president as the "line of Evil". In deed that line signifies both the British and Pakistani imperialism that have subjugated the Baluchs and the Pushtuns.

In 1893, the Afghan and British governments agreed to demark a 2,450-kilometer (1,519 miles) long border dividing British India and Afghanistan. The signatory of the document, known as The Durand Line Agreement, were Amir Abdur Rahman Khan, ruler of Afghanistan, and Sir Henry Mortimer Durand, the foreign secretary of the British Indian government. After a series of battles and false treaties signed by the British, 'The Durand Line Agreement' of 1893 divides boundaries between three sovereign countries, namely Afghanistan, Balochistan and British India. According to that agreement Britain had taken a lease of the area in N.W.F.P and Balochistan, without the knowledge of Balochistan. Sir Durand gave verbal assurance to Afghanistan that the lease will lat until 1993, but in the written agreement there is no mention of it. Otherwise just like Hong Kong, N.W.F.P would have gone back to Afghanistan in 1993.

The Durand Line Agreement should be a trilateral agreement and it legally required the participation and signatures of all three countries. However, the clever British drawn the agreement bilaterally between Afghanistan and British India only, and it intentionally excluded Balochistan. Thus, Balochistan has never accepted the validity of the Durand Line. The British, under false pretenses, assured the Afghan rulers that Balochistan was part of British India, and therefore, they were not required to have the consent of anyone from Balochistan to agree on demarking borders. Meanwhile, the British kept the Baloch rulers in the dark about the Durand Line Agreement to avoid any complications. According to International Law, all affected parties are required to agree to any changes in demarking their common borders. Hence, under the rules of demarking boundaries of the International Law, the Agreement of Durand Line was in error, and thus, it was null and void as soon as it was signed.

Also, International Law states that boundary changes must be made among all concerned parties; and a unilateral declaration by one party has no effect. However, the British government disregarding the objection of Afghanistan gave away the N.W.F.P to Pakistan after a fraud plebscite. However, it never gave Baluchistan to Pakistan in the same way the British never gave away Jammu & Kashmir to India.

When in 1949, Afghanistan's "Loya Jirga" (Grand Council) declared the Durand Line Agreement invalid and also raised objections in the United Nations against the creation of Pakistan and its boundary decalared by the British alone, the so-called world body had ignored the plea of a small nation.

Pakistani Invasion of Indepent Baluchistan, 1948:

On August 11, 1947, the British acceded control of Balochistan to the ruler of Balochistan, Mir Ahmad Yar Khan - the Khan of Kalat. The Khan immediately declared the independence of Balochistan, and Mohammad Ali Jinnah signed the proclamation of Balochistan's sovereignty under the Khan.

The New York Times reported on August 12, 1947: "Under the agreement, Pakistan recognizes Kalat as an independent sovereign state with a status different from that of the Indian States. An announcement from New Delhi said that Kalat, Moslem State in Baluchistan, has reached an agreement with Pakistan for free flow of communications and commerce, and would negotiate for decisions on defense, external affairs and communications." The next day, the NY Times even printed a map of the world showing Balochistan as a fully independent country.

On August 15, 1947 the Khan of Kalat addressed a large gathering in Kalat and formally declared the full independence of Balochistan, and proclaimed the 15th day of August a day of celebration. The Khan formed the lower and upper house of Kalat Assembly, and during the first meeting of the Lower House in early September 1947, the Assembly confirmed the independence of Balochistan. Jinnah tried to persuade the Khan to join Pakistan, but the Khan and both Houses of the Kalat Assembly refused. The Pakistani army then invaded Balochistan on April 15th, 1948, and imprisoned all members of the Kalat Assembly. India stood by silently. Lord Mountbatten, Mahatma Gandhi, Nehru or Maulana Azad, then the president of India's Congress Party said nothing about the rape of Baluchistan or later of N.W.F.P.

Throughout the period of British rule of India, the British never occupied Baluchistan. There were treaties and lease agreements between the two sovereign states, but neither state invaded the other. Although the treaties signed between British India and Balochistan provided many concessions to the British, but none of the treaties permitted the British to demark the boundaries of Baluchistan without the consent of the Baluch rulers. Once Balochistan was secured through invasion, the Pakistanis deceptively used the law of uti possidetis juris to their advantage and continued occupation of territories belonging to Afghanistan, the N.W.F.P with the full approval of the British Army in India and their supreme commander Lord.Mountbatten. As Pakistan is in illegal occupation of territories belonging to Afghanistan and Balochistan under false pretenses, it is in Pakistan's interest to have a weak and destabilized government in Afghanistan so there is no one to challenge the authenticity of the Durand Line Agreement. That was the reason Pakistan has joined the conspiracy of President Carter and his national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski (as described in the interview given by Brzezinshi to the French newspaper Le Nouvel Observateur on 15-21 January 1998) to destabilize the Afghan government of Noor Mohammed Taraki in 1978 by using Pakistani army and destroy it completely through the invasions of the Muzzahideens in 1992 and Talibans later in 1995 with the approval of President Clinton who has sent his special adviser Robin Rafael to Kandahar to congratulate the Talibans. In the same way Clinton administration has sent 10,000 strong Mujahideen army, composed of Arabs, to Bosnia in 1991 to murder the Christian Serbs.

Even after 2001, Pakistani intelligence agencies have provided shelter for members of Al-Qaeada and Taliban who are committing acts of terrorism within Afghanistan to destabilize the democratically elected government of President Hamid Karzai. Pakistan has waged a proxy war against the United States through Taliban, and continues to terrorize the Afghan nation in hopes to frustrate the US to leave Afghanistan and weaken the Afghan government.Meanwhile, the Baloch have launched their "War of Independence" in Iran and Pakistan. Liberation Movement in Balochistan:

Mir Azaad Khan Baloch, the General Secretary, The Government of Balochistan in Exile in Jerusalem decalared recently, "Afghanistan and Baluchistan should form a legal team to challenge the illegal occupation of Afghan territories and Baluchistan by Pakistan in the International Court of Justice. Once the Durand Line Agreement is declared illegal, it will result in the return of Pakistan-occupied territories back to Afghanistan. Also, Baluchistan will be declared a country that was forcibly invaded through use of force by the Pakistanis; and with international assistance, Baluchistan can regain its independence."
 
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There has to be some genuine reasons behind such a decision and we all can only guess about it.
First, the Peshawar attack has put Afghans under pressure to act against TTP.
Second, Pakistan is trying to send the 3 million Afghan refugees back to their country which will put pressure on both these repatriates and Afghanistan.
Third, the US is out of Afghanistan and they are left to defend themselves.
Under these circumstances, Afghanistan has to be diplomatic with Pakistan to keep Talibans at bay. They have good understanding with India and can take such occassional liberties for their greater national interests. A peaceful and prosperous Afghanistan is in India's best interest.One suspension of request for weapons from India invokes so much favorable response from pakistanis on pdf, who till yesterday were swearing against Afghans. This will indeed give Afghans some relief and time and otherwise also it is in their best interest to not take a hostile stand against Pakistan.
 
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:o: Do even heard about Darand Line ? and 1948 invasion of Afgan border ... It's still unstable settlement between Afghanistan and Pakistan due to mistakes made by British rulers ... Let me explain with this .

Reality check --- from same British rulers you got Indian union. :pop:
 
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Becuase have Afghanistan have just realised India is using their territory to produce terrorists which are destroying eastern Afghanistan in the process of trying to destroy Pakistan.

Indians are selfish and can never let peace happen.
 
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