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Updated Feb 10, 2019 08:40am
Why Bangladesh overtook Pakistan
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BANGLADESH is not some Scandinavian heaven. It is poor and overpopulated, undereducated and corrupt, frequented by natural catastrophes, experiences occasional terrorism, and the farcical nature of its democracy was exposed in the December 2018 elections. But the earlier caricature of a country on life support disappeared years ago. Today, some economists say it shall be the next Asian tiger. Its growth rate last year (7.8 per cent) put it at par with India (8.0pc) and well above Pakistan (5.8pc). The debt per capita for Bangladesh ($434) is less than half that for Pakistan ($974), and its foreign exchange reserves ($32 billion) are four times Pakistan’s ($8bn).

Take a look: Why we lag behind

Much of this growth owes to exports which zoomed from zero in 1971 to $35.8bn in 2018 (Pakistan’s is $24.8bn). Bangladesh produces no cotton but, to the chagrin of Pakistan’s pampered textile industry, it has eaten savagely into its market share. The IMF calculates Bangladesh’s economy growing from $180bn presently to $322bn by 2021. This means that the average Bangladeshi today is almost as wealthy as the average Pakistani and, if the rupee depreciates further, will be technically wealthier by 2020.


Other indicators are equally stunning. East Pakistan’s population in the 1951 census was 42 million, while West Pakistan’s was 33.7m. But today Bangladesh has far fewer people than Pakistan — 165m versus 200m. A sustained population planning campaign helped reduce fertility in Bangladesh. No such campaign — or even its beginnings — is visible today in Pakistan.

Eschewing militarism in favour of human development, Bangladesh set its initial priorities correctly.

The health sector is no less impressive — far fewer babies die at birth in Bangladesh than in Pakistan. Immunisation is common and no one gets shot dead for administering polio drops. Life expectancy (72.5 years) is higher than Pakistan’s (66.5 years). According to the ILO, females are well ahead in employment (33.2pc) as compared to Pakistan (25.1pc).

How did West Pakistan’s poor cousin manage to upstage its richer relative by so much so fast? It’s all the more puzzling because Bangladesh has no geostrategic assets saleable to America, China, or Saudi Arabia. It also has no nuclear weapons, no army of significance, no wise men in uniform running the country from the shadows, and no large pool of competent professionals. At birth, East Pakistan had, in fact, no trained bureaucracy; it received just one member of the former Indian Civil Service.

Special report: The Breakup of Pakistan 1969-1971

None should be more surprised at these new developments than those West Pakistanis — like me — who went to school during the 1950s and 1960s and grew up surrounded by unconcealed racism. Short and dark Bengalis were reputedly good only for growing jute and rice and catching fish. They were Muslims and Pakistanis, of course, but as children we were made to imagine that all good Muslims and real Pakistanis are tall, fair, and speak chaste Urdu. We’d laugh madly at the strange-sounding Bengali news broadcasts from Radio Pakistan. In our foolish macho world, they sounded terribly feminine.

The mega surrender of 1971 made West Pakistanis eat humble pie. But, even as the two-nation theory went out of the window, the overwhelming majority was loath to change its thinking. The west wing renamed itself Pakistan, many assuming this was temporary. They said Bangladesh could never survive economically and would humbly ask to be taken back.

Others optimistically imagined that the disaster had taught Pakistan a profound lesson making change inevitable. Responding enthusiastically to the popular roti, kapra, makaan slogan, they believed Pakistan would shift from pampering its hyper-privileged ones towards providing welfare for all. Equally, it was hoped that the rights of Pakistan’s culturally diverse regions would be respected. None of this happened. Instead, we simply got more of what had been earlier.

Thirsting for vengeance, Pakistan’s establishment could think of nothing beyond wounded honour and ways to settle scores with India. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto’s secret call for the nuclear bomb led to the famed Multan meeting just six weeks after the surrender. That centralisation of authority breeds local resentment remained an unlearned lesson. In 1973, Bhutto dismissed the NAP government in Balochistan and ordered military action, starting a series of local rebellions that has never gone away. In doing so, he re-empowered those who ultimately hanged him.

In a nutshell, Bangladesh and Pakistan are different countries today because they perceive their national interest very differently. Bangladesh sees its future in human development and economic growth. Goal posts are set at increasing exports, reducing unemployment, improving health, reducing dependence upon loans and aid, and further extending micro credit. Water and boundary disputes with India are serious and Bangladesh suffers bullying by its bigger neighbour on matters of illegal immigration, drugs, etc. But its basic priorities have not wavered.

For Pakistan, human development comes a distant second. The bulk of national energies remain focused upon check-mating India. Relations with Afghanistan and Iran are therefore troubled; Pakistan accuses both of being excessively close to India. But the most expensive consequence of the security state mindset was the nurturing of extra state actors in the 1990s. Ultimately they had to be crushed after the APS massacre of Dec 16, 2014. This, coincidentally, was the day Dhaka had fallen 43 years earlier.

Bangladesh is conflicted by internal rifts. Still, being more multicultural and liberal, its civil society and activist intelligentsia have stopped armed groups from grabbing the reins of power. Although elected or quasi-elected Bangladeshi leaders are often horribly corrupt and incompetent, they don’t simply endorse decisions — they actually make them. Ultimately responsible to their electorate, they are forced to invest in people instead of weapons or a massive military establishment.

For Pakistan, these are lessons to be pondered over. CPEC or no CPEC, it’s impossible to match India tank for tank or missile by missile. Surely it is time to get realistic. Shouting ‘Pakistan zindabad’ from the rooftops while obsequiously taking dictation from the Americans, Chinese, and Saudis has taken us nowhere. Announcing that we have become targets of a fifth-generation hi-tech secret subversion inflames national paranoia but is otherwise pointless. Instead, to move forward, Pakistan must transform its war economy into ultimately becoming a peace economy.

The writer teaches physics in Lahore and Islamabad.

Published in Dawn, February 9th, 2019

www.dawn.com/news/amp/1462757
 
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and its foreign exchange reserves ($32 billion) are four times Pakistan’s ($8bn).

Not a big deal, forex reserves change with time. and $32 b isn't like a great figure.

The debt per capita for Bangladesh ($434) is less than half that for Pakistan ($974)

Can some one quote debt per capita of other countries like US, and stuff?

Its growth rate last year (7.8 per cent) put it at par with India (8.0pc) and well above Pakistan (5.8pc)

Again policies can abruptly change this figure in a matter of years, so no big deal.

Today, some economists say it shall be the next Asian tiger

So if some people say, it should be true then I guess. because its some not most or all...

BANGLADESH is not some Scandinavian heaven. It is poor and overpopulated, undereducated and corrupt, frequented by natural catastrophes, experiences occasional terrorism, and the farcical nature of its democracy was exposed in the December 2018 elections.

Totally agreed, rest is all narrative driven. I guess he didn't find anything else to write on.
 
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Not a big deal, forex reserves change with time. and $32 b isn't like a great figure.

Can some one quote debt per capita of other countries like US, and stuff?

Again policies can abruptly change this figure in a matter of years, so no big deal.

So if some people say, it should be true then I guess. because its some not most or all...

Totally agreed, rest is all narrative driven. I guess he didn't find anything else to write on.
If a $32 billion reserve does not look great wait for another five years when it will shoot above $50 billion.
Why are you worried about the debts of other countries like the US or the UK. Unlike Pakistan they borrow from the domestic source like banks. In the case of Pakistan, its debt is a staggering $95 billion from foreign sources. Can you pay this much of money just by printing new Rupee tender? You have to earn dollars by export. But, you are importing military hardware by paying in dollars instead.
 
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Other indicators are equally stunning. East Pakistan’s population in the 1951 census was 42 million, while West Pakistan’s was 33.7m. But today Bangladesh has far fewer people than Pakistan — 165m versus 200m. A sustained population planning campaign helped reduce fertility in Bangladesh. No such campaign — or even its beginnings — is visible today in Pakistan.

Eschewing militarism in favour of human development, Bangladesh set its initial priorities correctly.

The health sector is no less impressive — far fewer babies die at birth in Bangladesh than in Pakistan. Immunisation is common and no one gets shot dead for administering polio drops. Life expectancy (72.5 years) is higher than Pakistan’s (66.5 years). According to the ILO, females are well ahead in employment (33.2pc) as compared to Pakistan (25.1pc).

Cant really disagree with these facts
 
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Your friend @Nilgiri seems to think that things like BD life expectancy are made up.

There maybe discrepancies coming from Bangladesh govt sources on some of these figures but most of the time figures put out by multilateral agencies usually correlates or at least not widely off the mark either, So as far i see there is no reason to disagree with these facts

Bangladeshi's are definitely improving both at economic and livelihood matter, At most aspects faster than their Sub continental counter parts.. That's what counts really
 
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For Pakistan, these are lessons to be pondered over. CPEC or no CPEC, it’s impossible to match India tank for tank or missile by missile. Surely it is time to get realistic. Shouting ‘Pakistan zindabad’ from the rooftops while obsequiously taking dictation from the Americans, Chinese, and Saudis has taken us nowhere. Announcing that we have become targets of a fifth-generation hi-tech secret subversion inflames national paranoia but is otherwise pointless. Instead, to move forward, Pakistan must transform its war economy into ultimately becoming a peace economy.
This writer must be a fifth columnist asking Pakistan to become a domesticated peace-loving country instead of talking machoist jargons. He should be shot dead by Pakistan's militaristic establishment.

The army generals love to exploit the Kashmir issue to buy weapons that fill their own pockets but the general people are blinded by the slogans like, "Larke Leyenge Kashmir".
 
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Not a big deal, forex reserves change with time. and $32 b isn't like a great figure.....Again policies can abruptly change this figure in a matter of years, so no big deal.

Totally agreed, rest is all narrative driven. I guess he didn't find anything else to write on.

What I hear you saying is that none of Mr. Hoodbhoy's statements matter. One can hide one's head in the sand, but that activity won't resolve issues. I am deeply aware of the situation present in both countries, and every one of the facts he mentioned is correct, especially regarding Bangladesh. Most Bangladeshi posters here in PDF will agree.

Brushing aside issues that are staring you in the face - just because they are too uncomfortable to accept, does not make those issues go away. Staggering levels of national debt caused by military expenditure and showcase projects floated by politicians intent to show a 'great face' has to be sustainable at the end of the day.

Military expenditures are in turn caused by the ever-present bugaboo of Indian invasion kept alive in Fauji discourse and propaganda (Fauji circles benefit from these projects). These have to be reigned in and the focus has to go into export led growth, like Bangladesh.

I wouldn't care - but I'm one of those rare impartial folks who'd hate to see regular folks like Mr. Hoodbhoy in Pakistan suffer. I speak to enough Pakistani friends on a regular basis, so I know the gravity of the issue.

The 'something else' Mr. Hoodbhoy did not write on (I suspect because of fear of 'repercussions' from those in power in Pakistan - air quotes mine) are the facts that Pakistan's focus need to change to public service (as opposed to military projects and service), and those steps need to be taken NOW.

Your friend @Nilgiri seems to think that things like BD life expectancy are made up.

I guess UN agencies are all fabricating figures then......
 
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I guess UN agencies are all fabricating figures then......


Apparently BD is so insignificant that they are not bothering to check and just publishing whatever BD government says.

Dude has some SERIOUS butt-hurt issues with BD.
 
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Bhutto was a complete idiot. He had no sense or ability to be a genuine leader. He falls in the class of Saddam Hossein, Gaddafi etc.
 
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Updated Feb 10, 2019 08:40am
Why Bangladesh overtook Pakistan
PERVEZ HOODBHOY
5c5e094e4a3fb.jpg

BANGLADESH is not some Scandinavian heaven. It is poor and overpopulated, undereducated and corrupt, frequented by natural catastrophes, experiences occasional terrorism, and the farcical nature of its democracy was exposed in the December 2018 elections. But the earlier caricature of a country on life support disappeared years ago. Today, some economists say it shall be the next Asian tiger. Its growth rate last year (7.8 per cent) put it at par with India (8.0pc) and well above Pakistan (5.8pc). The debt per capita for Bangladesh ($434) is less than half that for Pakistan ($974), and its foreign exchange reserves ($32 billion) are four times Pakistan’s ($8bn).

Take a look: Why we lag behind

Much of this growth owes to exports which zoomed from zero in 1971 to $35.8bn in 2018 (Pakistan’s is $24.8bn). Bangladesh produces no cotton but, to the chagrin of Pakistan’s pampered textile industry, it has eaten savagely into its market share. The IMF calculates Bangladesh’s economy growing from $180bn presently to $322bn by 2021. This means that the average Bangladeshi today is almost as wealthy as the average Pakistani and, if the rupee depreciates further, will be technically wealthier by 2020.


Other indicators are equally stunning. East Pakistan’s population in the 1951 census was 42 million, while West Pakistan’s was 33.7m. But today Bangladesh has far fewer people than Pakistan — 165m versus 200m. A sustained population planning campaign helped reduce fertility in Bangladesh. No such campaign — or even its beginnings — is visible today in Pakistan.

Eschewing militarism in favour of human development, Bangladesh set its initial priorities correctly.

The health sector is no less impressive — far fewer babies die at birth in Bangladesh than in Pakistan. Immunisation is common and no one gets shot dead for administering polio drops. Life expectancy (72.5 years) is higher than Pakistan’s (66.5 years). According to the ILO, females are well ahead in employment (33.2pc) as compared to Pakistan (25.1pc).

How did West Pakistan’s poor cousin manage to upstage its richer relative by so much so fast? It’s all the more puzzling because Bangladesh has no geostrategic assets saleable to America, China, or Saudi Arabia. It also has no nuclear weapons, no army of significance, no wise men in uniform running the country from the shadows, and no large pool of competent professionals. At birth, East Pakistan had, in fact, no trained bureaucracy; it received just one member of the former Indian Civil Service.

Special report: The Breakup of Pakistan 1969-1971

None should be more surprised at these new developments than those West Pakistanis — like me — who went to school during the 1950s and 1960s and grew up surrounded by unconcealed racism. Short and dark Bengalis were reputedly good only for growing jute and rice and catching fish. They were Muslims and Pakistanis, of course, but as children we were made to imagine that all good Muslims and real Pakistanis are tall, fair, and speak chaste Urdu. We’d laugh madly at the strange-sounding Bengali news broadcasts from Radio Pakistan. In our foolish macho world, they sounded terribly feminine.

The mega surrender of 1971 made West Pakistanis eat humble pie. But, even as the two-nation theory went out of the window, the overwhelming majority was loath to change its thinking. The west wing renamed itself Pakistan, many assuming this was temporary. They said Bangladesh could never survive economically and would humbly ask to be taken back.

Others optimistically imagined that the disaster had taught Pakistan a profound lesson making change inevitable. Responding enthusiastically to the popular roti, kapra, makaan slogan, they believed Pakistan would shift from pampering its hyper-privileged ones towards providing welfare for all. Equally, it was hoped that the rights of Pakistan’s culturally diverse regions would be respected. None of this happened. Instead, we simply got more of what had been earlier.

Thirsting for vengeance, Pakistan’s establishment could think of nothing beyond wounded honour and ways to settle scores with India. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto’s secret call for the nuclear bomb led to the famed Multan meeting just six weeks after the surrender. That centralisation of authority breeds local resentment remained an unlearned lesson. In 1973, Bhutto dismissed the NAP government in Balochistan and ordered military action, starting a series of local rebellions that has never gone away. In doing so, he re-empowered those who ultimately hanged him.

In a nutshell, Bangladesh and Pakistan are different countries today because they perceive their national interest very differently. Bangladesh sees its future in human development and economic growth. Goal posts are set at increasing exports, reducing unemployment, improving health, reducing dependence upon loans and aid, and further extending micro credit. Water and boundary disputes with India are serious and Bangladesh suffers bullying by its bigger neighbour on matters of illegal immigration, drugs, etc. But its basic priorities have not wavered.

For Pakistan, human development comes a distant second. The bulk of national energies remain focused upon check-mating India. Relations with Afghanistan and Iran are therefore troubled; Pakistan accuses both of being excessively close to India. But the most expensive consequence of the security state mindset was the nurturing of extra state actors in the 1990s. Ultimately they had to be crushed after the APS massacre of Dec 16, 2014. This, coincidentally, was the day Dhaka had fallen 43 years earlier.

Bangladesh is conflicted by internal rifts. Still, being more multicultural and liberal, its civil society and activist intelligentsia have stopped armed groups from grabbing the reins of power. Although elected or quasi-elected Bangladeshi leaders are often horribly corrupt and incompetent, they don’t simply endorse decisions — they actually make them. Ultimately responsible to their electorate, they are forced to invest in people instead of weapons or a massive military establishment.

For Pakistan, these are lessons to be pondered over. CPEC or no CPEC, it’s impossible to match India tank for tank or missile by missile. Surely it is time to get realistic. Shouting ‘Pakistan zindabad’ from the rooftops while obsequiously taking dictation from the Americans, Chinese, and Saudis has taken us nowhere. Announcing that we have become targets of a fifth-generation hi-tech secret subversion inflames national paranoia but is otherwise pointless. Instead, to move forward, Pakistan must transform its war economy into ultimately becoming a peace economy.

The writer teaches physics in Lahore and Islamabad.

Published in Dawn, February 9th, 2019

www.dawn.com/news/amp/1462757


Utter gibberish in terms of BD history. Typical condesending ill educated imbacile. Why does this fool and his ilk so interested in Bangladesh?

We are told by his compatriots they really wanted to get rid of bangladesh...why then compare and continiously hark back when to bangladesh pakistan has been relegated to a strawman to assign all of societies ill on.

There are no lessons here.... the two countries, their peoples, their outlook and destinies are completely different.
 
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What the Author does not recognize is that Myanmar can invade & take control of Bangladesh and all ts wealth in less than weak with China & Pakistan by its side.

On the other hand Pakistan is in the big boys club & even major powers like US have tough time controlling it.
 
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Ghetto Homecalling for Hoods-Bouy Bendover Pervaiz
 
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What the Author does not recognize is that Myanmar can invade & take control of Bangladesh and all ts wealth in less than weak with China & Pakistan by its side.

On the other hand Pakistan is in the big boys club & even major powers like US have tough time controlling it.



Are you on something strong dude?

Myanmar cannot invade BD as it's airforce will be practically useless against BD army in the field, which is armed with both modern manpads and short-range SAMs.

MAF can however bomb some targets in BD as the medium-range SAM batteries are yet to be put in place.
 
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