Why are we so adamant in our support for Palestine when they themselves support India against us?

[Beny Karachun]

But sign a peace treaty with them like you did with Jordan and Egypt. And if they renege on that, then deal with them. The world will not be able to cry evil Israeli apartheid that way. The responsibility will fall on Palestinians if they break the treaty then.

We can rely on Egypt and on Jordan to not break a peace treaty.
We can't do the same with the Palestinians, we already gave them Gaza and look how that turned for us.

 

[Genghis khan1]

We will decide what's ours and what's not.

We won't accept losing terms. We will never give Jerusalem.

Israel does not face any existential threat and anyone that tries to impose such a threat upon Israel will find himself under a much bigger threat.

You are at advantageous position, but for how long. If Arab neighbors decided to break peace accords, this attitude will go away overnight. Israel don’t wish to fight a war with real army, even with these broken Arab states.

If I was an Israeli, I would have offered Palestinian decent deal that is acceptable and get this issue over with. Because the Influence of US, the Grantor of Israel’s security is diminishing . Remember, Israel is just 10 miles across.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

We can rely on Egypt and on Jordan to not break a peace treaty.
We can't do the same with the Palestinians, we already gave them Gaza and look how that turned for us.

Have the Israelis given Palestinians free health care that is comparable to Western standards?

 

[Beny Karachun]

if everyone goes right wing, there will be no time to sit and talk.

all right wingers want expansionist wars.

you should be smarter than this Benny

Right wingers don't want wars. But they do want them to be unrestained in case they happen.

Israel can't truly deal with Hamas as long as we are more afraid of casualties in Gaza than casualties in Israel.

 

[Cliftonite]

We can rely on Egypt and on Jordan to not break a peace treaty.
We can't do the same with the Palestinians, we already gave them Gaza and look how that turned for us.

The leftist in me advocates for Palestinians but I've dealt and engaged with enough Muslim Brotherhood akhis to know you can't engage with Hamas. Doing so would be suicide says the rationalist in me.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Have the Israelis given Palestinians free health care that is comparable to Western standards?

Palestinians are not Israeli citizens, they have their own healthcare systems, what you don't understand is that they are essentially fully independent in their cities.

 

[El Sidd]

Right wingers don't want wars. But they do want them to be unrestained in case they happen.

Israel can't truly deal with Hamas as long as we are more afraid of casualties in Gaza than casualties in Israel.

There has never been a cure for paranoia although it is considered a medical condition.

People just want to live freely. Freedom to you is the same as freedom to a Palestinian.

Palestinians like you on the other side have the same sentiments when it comes to trusting anyone with freedom.

 

[Beny Karachun]

The leftist in me advocates for Palestinians but I've dealt and engaged with enough Muslim Brotherhood akhis to know you can't engage with Hamas. Doing so would be suicide says the rationalist in me.

Hamas wants our heads, period.

 

[xeuss]

Palestinians are not Israeli citizens, they have their own healthcare systems, what you don't understand is that they are essentially fully independent in their cities.

It's called apartheid. Learn proper English vocabulary.

 

[Beny Karachun]

There's no real negotiatioms with them.

 

[Naram_Sin]

Not true, it was Arab backstabbing of ottomans.
Nonsense the less, during mongol invasion, Ruler of Baghdad was busy butt-fucking each other. Instead of building a decent army or Sticking following Islam, Mustashm Was Sitting with thumb up his ***. mongol extended gesture of friendship and trade, You killed their envoys. Bad bad mistake.

That was the God’s plan. Because out of same mongols came out great muslims Empires and rulers that spread Islam all over the world.

The mongols brought the Islamic dark age which is why we are in our current state, the ottomans lost, mainly because they were technologically backward with an uneducated population, 400-500 years of no scientific progress, very few exceptions, you can barely list 10 scientist names during all of the ottoman era.

Not to completely take responsibity away from al Mu'tasim, he was a weak ruler who was simply not up to the tremendous challenge of the mongols.

 

[Beny Karachun]

It's called apartheid. Learn proper English vocabulary.

Huh? Should France be entitled to the healthcare system of Kenya?

Israeli governemnt is responsible for Israeli citizens
Palestinian Authority and Hamas are responsible for the Palestinians

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

The mongols brought the Islamic dark age which is why we are in our current state, the ottomans lost, mainly because they were technologically backward with an uneducated population, 400-500 years of no scientific progress, very few exceptions, you can barely list 10 scientist names during all of the ottoman era.

Not to completely take responsibity away from al Mu'tasim, he was a weak ruler who was simply not up to the tremendous challenge of the mongols.

This is false, but this is not the thread to discuss this issue in depth.

 

[Naofumi]

Hamas wants our heads, period.

Why don't topple Hamas as an one time investment? Do you want them to show the world as an example of Palestinian extremism?

 

[Beny Karachun]

There has never been a cure for paranoia although it is considered a medical condition.

People just want to live freely. Freedom to you is the same as freedom to a Palestinian.

Palestinians like you on the other side have the same sentiments when it comes to trusting anyone with freedom.

That's too bad, because the only one that was willing to give something to the other side besides the questionable promise to not kill them, was Israel. And the ones that either full out denied thay offer, or accepted it and started a war, were the Palestinians.