Who will be the winner in by-polls NA246

[Mav3rick]

Unfortunately MQM gonna win on this seat but PTI is on rise in Karachi, however 2018 elections could be a Nightmare for MQM in Karachi.

2008 Elections would be an extremely rude wakeup call for all kids across Pakistan, and I hope you understand whom I am referring to as kids.

I think MQM will win but PTI will give them good fight. Which will be huge win for PTI.

Reality check, MQM will win and second will be JI, the votes that PTI gets will be marginal at best.

what has MQM given them ? Was Karachi better before MQM or after MQM joined politics ?

Do you want to be given a history lesson on the past 50 years of Karachi? Because only then can you understand what MQM has given Karachi and what more it could have given had it not been consistently shunned by establishment.

 

[Shamain]

I'm loving the way, PTI is giving sleepless nights to MQM leaders and hardcore workers. By 2018, I can see PTI becoming a strong force in Karachi. PTI needs to work on grass root level till 2018, especially in Punjab and Sindh. But instead, they are more focused on other things.

The only thing I'm looking for in this NA-246 election is votes difference between PTI and MQM. In 2013 elections on this seat, PTI was distant second. Lets see how much PTI can reduce the margin..

Iknew through a reliable source that rigging happened by mqm in karachi,yet ppl will lie here. 2013 elections i am talking

 

[Mav3rick]

Can i ask simple question ? Why target killings , bhatta and other crimes has gone down after raid on MQM HQ ? And what were all those criminals doing there

Would you still be laughing if asked who began the culture of violence, with batons and sticks and then later on with weapons, in Karachi? Do we blame the pioneer of violence in Karachi or the common Karachiite who stood up against that violence to actually fight back?

And would you still be laughing if picked up by the LEAs in a random sweep and MADE to confess to 13 murders and numerous extortion and kidnapping crimes or worse?? Would you still be laughing if you were a sarfaraz shah or a random taxi driver being executed by the Rangers? And those incidents were highlighted because they were caught on camera!

May I suggest you learn the entire history of Karachi, its dynamics and the influence outsiders have within Karachi first?

Here's my 2 cents..since its going to be a rigging free election 90% of the time..Karachi-ites have finally got the opportunity to decide their fate and not MQM forcibly through heavy rigging.. If they're willing to get out of their houses and vote for PTI..they can start the moment for target killing-free Karachi..this seat victory would be a giagantic momentum starter for PTI in karachi and Sindh however if they think PTI is not the way forward and decide to sit on their butts and don't go and vote for PTI then they've sealed their own fate and can blame themselves for letting fear rule them like it always have...

You seem like a self declared guru spweing your verdict as if it is THE solution to Karachi. But, I have a question for you. What will PTI give Karachi?

 

[batmannow]

Would you still be laughing if asked who began the culture of violence, with batons and sticks and then later on with weapons, in Karachi? Do we blame the pioneer of violence in Karachi or the common Karachiite who stood up against that violence to actually fight back?

And would you still be laughing if picked up by the LEAs in a random sweep and MADE to confess to 13 murders and numerous extortion and kidnapping crimes or worse?? Would you still be laughing if you were a sarfaraz shah or a random taxi driver being executed by the Rangers? And those incidents were highlighted because they were caught on camera!

May I suggest you learn the entire history of Karachi, its dynamics and the influence outsiders have within Karachi first?



You seem like a self declared guru spweing your verdict as if it is THE solution to Karachi. But, I have a question for you. What will PTI give Karachi?

Mullha fazal ullha ,s foot ball team playing football with the heads of infidel s Like imran Ismail the pti ,s Ismaili candidate for 246 ?lolzzzz

 

[khawaja07]

You seem like a self declared guru spweing your verdict as if it is THE solution to Karachi. But, I have a question for you. What will PTI give Karachi?

Self declared Guru Lmao...PTI can give true people's power to Karachi cause it doesn't have any militant wings to be begin with..Its a party that lives and is currently thriving due to its supporters...just take a look at KPK, 60% less terrorist Incidents in it since PTI came unlike a few incident such as the Bannu jailbreak and the APC massacre(for which both army and the police are responsible)...the best thing PTI has done is to make nearly every state institution independent.. no political influence whatsoever, state institutions like the Police needs to be given power so that it does its true work instead of the Rangers doing it for them...Basically if Karachi's Local bodies are empowered then its the betterment of all people of Karachi and not some high level person only..

 

[Gazi]

Self declared Guru Lmao...PTI can give true people's power to Karachi cause it doesn't have any militant wings to be begin with..Its a party that lives and is currently thriving due to its supporters...just take a look at KPK, 60% less terrorist Incidents in it since PTI came unlike a few incident such as the Bannu jailbreak and the APC massacre(for which both army and the police are responsible)...the best thing PTI has done is to make nearly every state institution independent.. no political influence whatsoever, state institutions like the Police needs to be given power so that it does its true work instead of the Rangers doing it for them...Basically if Karachi's Local bodies are empowered then its the betterment of all people of Karachi and not some high level person only..

1. I hope those TRUE People of Karachi Arent Mafias because when Karachi is Disarmed Mafias from other Parts of Pakistan would come for Takeover as its a Gold Mine for them compare to other parts of Pakistan.
2. PTI Supporters are Laughing Stocks mostly out of Control and Day Dreaming about something that Looks Impossible to Achieve by PTI like this NA 246.
3. All Thanks to ARMY ACTION in NWA and Khaibar otherwise KPK would have seen Worse of its kind incidents if Army didnt have started the Operation against Terrorists.
4. LB System also Requires FUNDS to develop different Projects just LB System is not enough so I dont think PTI Would RELEASE Funds to Karachi because they are More Interested in Forming Base in Punjab rather.

 

[Jf Thunder]

as much as i am anti PTI, i would love to see PTI taking root in Sindh to form future govt there, no mater how much one abuses PTI , you have to admit they are not corrupt like the PPP.

 

[khawaja07]

1. I hope those TRUE People of Karachi Arent Mafias because when Karachi is Disarmed Mafias from other Parts of Pakistan would come for Takeover as its a Gold Mine for them compare to other parts of Pakistan.
2. PTI Supporters are Laughing Stocks mostly out of Control and Day Dreaming about something that Looks Impossible to Achieve by PTI like this NA 246.
3. All Thanks to ARMY ACTION in NWA and Khaibar otherwise KPK would have seen Worse of its kind incidents if Army didnt have started the Operation against Terrorists.
4. LB System also Requires FUNDS to develop different Projects just LB System is not enough so I dont think PTI Would RELEASE Funds to Karachi because they are More Interested in Forming Base in Punjab rather.

Lol...PTI isn't a terrorist faction which thrives on ammunition and guns.. people are its power..if they start behaving like MQM or people's party, nearly all of their supporters including me will leave them..they're done for after that.

PTI supporters are quite intelligent more than you know...they criticize when its due..nearly every party has some shitty fanatics who follow their party regardless of the party's current impression and performance...

Not all thanks to Pak army..KP's police force is severely underrated and is half responsible for the reduction in terrorist attacks in KP..since the change of regime, this has been significantly noticed whether you agree or not.

I wholeheartedly disagree with your assumptions. Karachi is the Hub of Pakistan's business, PTI would surely want to empower it as much as it can and spread it's wings all over Sindh...Just wait and watch what PTI does if it ever gets full control of the LB funds there..

 

[Gazi]

Lol...PTI isn't a terrorist faction which thrives on ammunition and guns.. people are its power..if they start behaving like MQM or people's party, nearly all of their supporters including me will leave them..they're done for after that.

PTI is not Terrorist Faction that is why Constituency would be more VULNERABLE to be taken Hostage by Terrorists and even they wont be able to Stop them from Taking Over because they doesnt even have a Public Strength like MQM.

PTI supporters are quite intelligent more than you know...they criticize when its due..nearly every party has some shitty fanatics who follow their party regardless of the party's current impression and performance...

That would be Biggest Joke of 2015. Just look at the Intelligence of PTI Supporters who were Protesting for Electoral Reforms and JC in Lahore instead of Petrol Crisis while there was a Week Long Petrol Crisis which had nearly Closed Down Punjab.

Not all thanks to Pak army..KP's police force is severely underrated and is half responsible for the reduction in terrorist attacks in KP..since the change of regime, this has been significantly noticed whether you agree or not.

In terms of Police Attitude KPK Police has always been the best in Pakistan but in terms of Competence they are still not as good as they are perceived. Of Course there are Improvements but not as much as PTI Claim. FC is still there performing there duties of LEA alongside KPK Police and attacks on Polio Workers are still Happening.

I wholeheartedly disagree with your assumptions. Karachi is the Hub of Pakistan's business, PTI would surely want to empower it as much as it can and spread it's wings all over Sindh...Just wait and watch what PTI does if it ever gets full control of the LB funds there..

PTI like others would want to empower Punjab more because Future of their Govt. would be dependent on their Votes from Punjab not from Karachi that is why PTI would try to Strengthen their Vote Bank in Punjab and Ignore Karachi because Karachi doesnt Play much Significance Politically Speaking. Economically things are different but PTI is Following same old Political Trend under new Banner only.

as much as i am anti PTI, i would love to see PTI taking root in Sindh to form future govt there, no mater how much one abuses PTI , you have to admit they are not corrupt like the PPP.

They should empower Interior Sindh Instead if they want to form a Govt. Karachi doesnt have much Significance Politically Speaking so they would Achieve nothing in Karachi rather face a backlash afterwards because when Karachiite started Demanding few Unpopular things they would left with nothing to Satisfy them.

 

[Dubious]

as a citizen of Karachi it pisses me off when IK acts like a savior

Dude Karachi is PART OF PAKISTAN stop taking it hostage!

Citizen of KARACHI ...think of being a Citizen of Pakistan first!

As for savior...Well, if you like to be a slave soo much go and do it on someone else's land....My Pakistan doesnt welcome slave mentality!

we (Citizen of Karachi) don't need an outsider to act macho with us, may it be someone sitting in UK or someone sitting in Bani Gala, my 2 cents.

Hello have you woken up? For the past decade or so an outsider from UK has been instructing how to run a Pakistani city...where were you hero?


As for alienating yourself you are not achieving anything just being an equal show off as you claim IK to be! Karachi is a part of Pakistan ....drill that in your brains then develop from there!

lol roads WAO. Btw u know Norway which is worlds richest and best country to live in has worst roads than most of European countries ?

Apparently EVERY bloody politically brained person in Pakistan thinks making roads is the way to development! They want to wear cement, eat laptops and live under metro bridges and then hold their chest out and claim to be DEVELOPED!

When around the world economy and education are the measure of development in Pakistan it is materialistic things to show off ....typical habits!

 

[Gazi]

Hello have you woken up? For the past decade or so an outsider from UK has been instructing how to run a Pakistani city...where were you hero?


As for alienating yourself you are not achieving anything just being an equal show off as you claim IK to be! Karachi is a part of Pakistan ....drill that in your brains then develop from there!

He meant to say a Leader who understand Karachi's Problems not a Leader who is interested in Votes. Instead of overreacting with Patriotic Sentiments(Which Fades Away with Opportunity to move outside the Country) understand the Context of what he said.

 

[Dubious]

He meant to say a Leader who understand Karachi's Problems not a Leader who is interested in Votes

There is nothing wrong with my comment and it still fits the bill if you are awake...Pakistan doesnt have a single human who can claim to be a leader coz MANY Pakistanis dont even know what qualities a leader SHOULD posses...let alone looking for one...

As for understanding Karachi's problems....None understands them.....The same way we have one who has never lived a single day without electricity, the same who has never been in a traffic jam nor has he ever gone without petrol let alone traveled in a public transport or had any medical care in our public hospitals (problems faced by a typical Pakistani) is running our country

 

[Gazi]

Apparently EVERY bloody politically brained person in Pakistan thinks making roads is the way to development! They want to wear cement, eat laptops and live under metro bridges and then hold their chest out and claim to be DEVELOPED!

When around the world economy and education are the measure of development in Pakistan it is materialistic things to show off ....typical habits!

Pakistan need INFRASTRUCTURE to Develop the Economy. European and Canadian Social Welfare System wont going to work in Pakistan as our Demographics and Geopolitics are Different from them. Pakistan has an exploding Population issue and Pakistan is Densely Populated Country unlike Europe and Canada with Vast Lands and SMall Population. Pakistan need more Market Economy while Europe needs Social Economy.

 

[Dubious]

Pakistan need INFRASTRUCTURE to Develop the Economy.

Pakistan needs law and order and education to survive....

You can build infrastructure and get it destroyed in an earthquake, floods or by the mourning riot during the death of some politician!

European and Canadian Social Welfare System wont going to work in Pakistan as our Demographics and Geopolitics are Different from them.

Their system might not work but that doesnt mean learn nothing from them!

Pakistan has an exploding Population issue and Pakistan is Densely Populated Country unlike Europe and Canada with Vast Lands and SMall Population.

Yes, and what are we doing about it? Making metro for less than 50% who will use it coz the top cream have their own car and never have been inside a public transport in their life!

The bottom cream cant afford it!

Top middle class have their own cars too....middle middle class is the only one who will be able to utilize the service but then again they are also the ones who are over populating the cities! Instead of providing them proper jobs in their own area, shuttling them around the city is not very useful!

Plus the service was built and the one in Isb will be too expensive to account for these...So vision was either not there or it kind of got sidelined coz of the $ from abroad!

A man who has never gone a night hungry will never know the value of money, food and things - hence why fasting is obligatory on us to learn something! If you are incapable then you just need to admit you are just not human enough or too selfish to bother!

Pakistan need more Market Economy while Europe needs Social Economy.

Yes and no...We need both! The problem with extremist people is lack of balance....Europe is suffering due to this lack of balance....

But people yet do not learn the value of balancing!


For market you need electricity, you need infrastructure BUT you also need EDUCATED work force, willing to work and not take short cuts!

I can tell you the agriculture and education ministry is formed in the worst possible manner ....Agriculture is one of our largest market something Europe is falling behind hence cultivating from Africa...

Education is our future which according to stats (UNDP/ WORLDBANK/ ASER annual report of 2014) we will never even reach the millennium goals (even in 2015) and millennium started 15 yrs ago!

Where are our priorities...Heck we havent even rearranged our judiciary system which is also politically based and for sale...We havent fixed our law and order so policemen wont take bribes....ALL this is called NOT Welfare BUT SUSTAINABLE development which PAKISTAN hasnt even consider!

 

[batmannow]

Pakistan needs law and order and education to survive....

You can build infrastructure and get it destroyed in an earthquake, floods or by the mourning riot during the death of some politician!


Their system might not work but that doesnt mean learn nothing from them!


Yes, and what are we doing about it? Making metro for less than 50% who will use it coz the top cream have their own car and never have been inside a public transport in their life!

The bottom cream cant afford it!

Top middle class have their own cars too....middle middle class is the only one who will be able to utilize the service but then again they are also the ones who are over populating the cities! Instead of providing them proper jobs in their own area, shuttling them around the city is not very useful!

Plus the service was built and the one in Isb will be too expensive to account for these...So vision was either not there or it kind of got sidelined coz of the $ from abroad!

A man who has never gone a night hungry will never know the value of money, food and things - hence why fasting is obligatory on us to learn something! If you are incapable then you just need to admit you are just not human enough or too selfish to bother!


Yes and no...We need both! The problem with extremist people is lack of balance....Europe is suffering due to this lack of balance....

But people yet do not learn the value of balancing!


For market you need electricity, you need infrastructure BUT you also need EDUCATED work force, willing to work and not take short cuts!

I can tell you the agriculture and education ministry is formed in the worst possible manner ....Agriculture is one of our largest market something Europe is falling behind hence cultivating from Africa...

Education is our future which according to stats (UNDP/ WORLDBANK/ ASER annual report of 2014) we will never even reach the millennium goals (even in 2015) and millennium started 15 yrs ago!

Where are our priorities...Heck we havent even rearranged our judiciary system which is also politically based and for sale...We havent fixed our law and order so policemen wont take bribes....ALL this is called NOT Welfare BUT SUSTAINABLE development which PAKISTAN hasnt even consider!

Hounrable sir ,
Under crunt damocrazy , nothing will happens good for Pakistan ?