Where have all Pakistan's militants gone?

[Audio]

Here is map of N.Waziristan. Observe it in Satellite mode, than terrain mode to decide weather the mountains that form border b/w N.Waziristan and afghanistan can be secured and movement can be stopped completly

Operation Zarb-e-Azb

Thanks for the map but i feel you are insulting my intelligence now. I was not questioning an occasional wanderer that finds his way along a goat path to Afghanistan. I am questioning the abandonement of border patrols for weeks prior to operation.

That said, while reading through the Pakistani poster's sentiments in here, i get the feeling leaving the border open was not oversight, but planned, as in, let the Afghan's have some. Technically, this isn't the best move, a short term answer for a long term problem, or kicking the can down the road.

In any case, best of luck.

 

[Bratva]

Thanks for the map but i feel you are insulting my intelligence now. I was not questioning an occasional wanderer that finds his way along a goat path to Afghanistan. I am questioning the abandonement of border patrols for weeks prior to operation.

That said, while reading through the Pakistani poster's sentiments in here, i get the feeling leaving the border open was not oversight, but planned, as in, let the Afghan's have some.

And who said Pakistan abandoned border patrols?

A stretch of border b/w N.Waziristan and Afghanistan. Pray tell us, how would you patrol such an area ?

Talking about abandonment. American abandoned their bases in Kunar, afghanistan, Taliban occupied them and they can move across the border more easily

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2011/04/taliban_occupy_aband.php

 

[Audio]

And who said Pakistan abandoned border patrols?

The most prominent among these are the Uzbek fighters allied to the TTP who claimed the 7 June assault on Karachi airport, and are believed by many to be one of the two major targets of the current operation, along with the TTP.

They are mostly believed to have slipped into Afghanistan's Khost province after Pakistani troops left a section of the border unmanned for a couple of weeks prior to the operation.

Others who might have pulled off a similar disappearing act are the Haqqani network's leaders. They have traditionally had sanctuaries in Khost as well as in Pakistan's Kurram tribal district and, despite official denials, are known to have enjoyed freedom of movement through security checkpoints in the region.

BBC News - Where have all Pakistan's militants gone?

A stretch of border b/w N.Waziristan and Afghanistan. Pray tell us, how would you patrol such an area ?

Is this a joke?

 

[Bratva]

BBC News - Where have all Pakistan's militants gone?



Is this a joke?

What's jock in it ? Can Border patrols secure mountain paths completely ?

BBC News - Where have all Pakistan's militants gone?



Is this a joke?

And BBC news is speculative at best and accusation at worst. It's like saying CIA knew who w 9/11 bombers were but let them do what they want for ulterior motives.

A few years after the 9/11 attacks in New York City, the CIA released a report recommending disciplinary action against Matthews and others.

It suggested the agency managers had not warned the FBI about two al-Qaeda members in the country since 2000. The CIA director declined to take any disciplinary action.

Gary Anderson says CIA wife Jennifer Matthews was not to blame for suicide bombing that killed her in Afghanistan | Mail Online

 

[Cheetah786]

Can any Pakistani member answer, is it by design, that a portion of Afghan border was left unmanned for weeks before the operation, only so that today, Pakistani PR spokesperson can say how Afghanistan must hand over people hiding there.

Was it left open for friendlies, but Fazlullah got through as well? Was it open so that later the blame for it being unsuccessful can be cast on Afghanistan? Or perhaps, some unintentional export of the ones who would run from offensive to Afg.?

Don't take me the wrong way, i wish you all the best in this operation, but leaving the border open like this is negligence on epic scale. It either speaks volumes about the planning or lack there of, or speaks volumes about sincerity of this operation.

On one hand BBC claims (In the absence of the media, the only source of information is the military.) On the other hand they claim passage was left open for terrorist to escape.Are you telling me that Pakistan Military called BBC to inform them about this passage or its just pure GAGA and creative journalism.

 

[Audio]

What's jock in it ? Can Border patrols secure mountain paths completely ?

The joke is, you say you cannot seal of the border, but that's exactly what is being counted upon in order for the ones that fled not to return.

And BBC news is speculative at best and accusation at worst. It's like saying CIA knew who w 9/11 bombers were but let them do what they want for ulterior motives.

Have any of the master minds been caught/killed? TTP or Uzbeks? I'd say the BBC is speculating in the right direction in this case....

 

[Bratva]

The joke is, you say you cannot seal of the border, but that's exactly what is being counted upon in order for the ones that fled not to return.




Have any of the master minds been caught/killed? TTP or Uzbeks? I'd say the BBC is speculating in the right direction in this case....

You following news ? TTP Commander of N.waziristan Umar killed in airstrikes last week. AL Qaeda explosives expert, an arab was caught as well.

Like I said, That's not we are counting upon. That's what BBC is speculating. You do know there is difference between factual news and speculative news?

 

[Audio]

On one hand BBC claims (In the absence of the media, the only source of information is the military.) On the other hand they claim passage was left open for terrorist to escape.Are you telling me that Pakistan Military called BBC to inform them about this passage or its just pure GAGA and creative journalism.

Recent evidence suggests that most of these groups have already left the regions around Miranshah and the other main town in North Waziristan, Mir Ali.

Whatever "recent evidence" means.

You following news ? TTP Commandar of N.waziristan Umar killed in airstrikes last week

Any link? Nvm, i found it. This Omar is some small fish.

 

[Cheetah786]

Whatever means.

Unless BBC was involved with the transit of the terrorist and has some solid proof "recent evidence" means BBC is subsidiary of Fox news.

 

[Audio]

Unless BBC was involved with the transit of the terrorist and has some solid proof "recent evidence" means BBC is subsidiary of Fox news.

But you cannot explain how Fazlullah and Haqqani got away?

 

[Bratva]

Whatever "recent evidence" means.



Any link?

History of BBC fabricating news. No wonder such a generalized statement is given instead of those evidences

BBC controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fish is fish, weather it is small or large. We are going after everyone. No distinction made this time

But you cannot explain how Fazlullah and Haqqani got away?

Do you know Fazlullah is already in Afghanistan since SWAT operation ? Haqqani leadership is already in afghanistan.

 

[Audio]

Do you know Fazlullah is already in Afghanistan since SWAT operation ? Haqqani leadership is already in afghanistan.

Mullah Fazlullah in Pakistan's tribal areas: spokesman - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

 

[Cheetah786]

But you cannot explain how Fazlullah and Haqqani got away?

Same way you can't that they didn't or they were in Afghanistan all along?

 

[Audio]

Same way you can't that they didn't or they were in Afghanistan all along?

Seriously! Link is above your post.

 

[Bratva]

Mullah Fazlullah in Pakistan's tribal areas: spokesman - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

So what? It's for propaganda purposes. A better source would be this

U.S. troops capture senior Pakistani Taliban commander Latif Mehsud - NY Daily News

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2013/10/us_grabs_pakistani_t.php


LAtif mehsud was second in command before his capture.