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What would happen if KMT ruled over China after 1949?

He has been going rather low recently, showing his true China-hating face under the facade of long "lols' and various other emoticons.

The UK has just betrayed the US, no more Anglo-Saxon brotherhood.

No longer confident about his Anglo-Saxon supremacy, that's why he is going low right now.

And the good thing is that he also got banned now.
 
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Its wierd to me how people think that a government that has fked up for 37 years would do better in the next 37 years. Imagine Nehru era Congress India. Then combine that with the British Raj. Then multiply it by 10. That's how bad the KMT was. Why not give the British 100 more years to see if they get better?
 
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Its wierd to me how people think that a government that has fked up for 37 years would do better in the next 37 years. Imagine Nehru era Congress India. Then combine that with the British Raj. Then multiply it by 10. That's how bad the KMT was. Why not give the British 100 more years to see if they get better?

There were two periods in the ROC; the first half was the Beiyang government, the second half was the KMT government.

1. The Beiyang was founded by Yuan Shikai who was mainly responsible for overthrowing the Qing Dynasty because he had become the most powerful politician during the end of the Qing Dynasty and controlled over the military, so he got the power to overthrow the Qing Dynasty. The Beiyang government lasted from 1911 to 1927.

2. The KMT was founded by Sun Yat Sen, and they did manage to overthrow the Beiyang government with the help from CPC. Too bad the young CPC was naive for trusting those backstabbing bastards, when they seized the power, they immediately turned their back on their allies and started a bloody purge on them. The KMT controlled over the Mainland China from 1927 to 1949.

Overall, KMT was even worse than Beiyang, at least Beiyang has secured Dongbei provinces by transported all the men and women over there. The Beiyang had almost controlled over Outer Mongolia, but KMT had just started a rebellion against them which caused to lose it again to the USSR. And CPC was naive at the time for helping KMT.
 
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Mao Zedong China was a failure

Under Mao‘s reign,the population of China nearly doubled from 580 million to 1 billion while the literacy rate when from roughly 20% to 60%. It's not Deng, but these 400million young and educated “Babyboomers of China” who made the " Chinese miracle" of economic growth as you see today.

Sure he made a few mistakes, but the bigger picture here is he laid down the ground work for China's future success by accumulating the single most important fuel for the economic engine to takeoff:human resources. Mao's era was indeed poor and backward,but no country gets rich and prosperous over one night,He contributed to the modern China just as much as Deng if not more. Certainly not a “failure” in my book

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The biggest joke of the century, and I can even say that the ROV would become the number one GDP per capita if it still exists, lol.

It is nothing special,

without interventions of France and American imperialists after WW II, VDR of Ho Chi Minh with multi - party govt, Viet eco could surpassed Taiwan and S Korea eco now. :enjoy:
 
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At beginning KMT of Sun Zhong Shan is good party. KMT liberated China from Qing Dynasty.
 
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If KMD had ruled China instead of CPC since 1949:

1. China would have never turned into a Marxist/ Communist.

2. The US would have never allied with Japan soon after WW2 - the very reason Japan recovered quickly as a loser of WW2 was because China turned red, hence the US felt the urgent need to ally with Japan to encircle red-China and red-Russia.

3. There would had been no Korean War : 100,000s of lives of both sides saved

4. The would had been no Communist VietNam, and would have had no VietNam War with the US, neither China-Vietnam war - millions of lives saved as a result.

5. China would have stationed troops in Japan as the US ally right after the war as a winner of WW2. Okinawa would have been another independent country friendly towards China sitting in the UN, like most of its history instead of being a part of Japan.

6. Japan's WW2 top criminals would have been executed. No one today would have heard the name called Shinzo Abe

7, there wouldn't have been Cultural Revolution and Great Leap forward...millions of Chinese lives ( many of whom were Chinese intellectual elites at a time) saved.

8. China would have been industrualised, and have freedom of speech and press, etc, almost the same way as Taiwan did, but on a much bigger scale at a much advanced level.

9. China would have become an economical and military statue -quo power of the US long ago, both as a friend and as a technological competitor to the US in the Parcific and around the multi-polar-world. As a result, with combined effort of both countries human beings would have probabaly colonised Mars years ago.

10. There have been no issue of Diao Yu Islands.

11. China's map today would have included: outter Mongolia, South Tibet, and a HUGE portion of today's Russian Far East - the ancestral homeland of the Manchus and teh Mongols.

12. The ole Soviet would have collapsed long ago, other than 1989, due to the combi efforts of China and the US - the allied powers.

13. Japan today would have become a little brother - a kind of "tributory state" - of China, like most of its time in the history.

14, both ChineseTiger and Speeder 2 would have been living in China instead.

15. India would have toilets long ago due to China's donations, rather than depending on Melinda & Bill Gates Foundation and Modi ji's world-touring begging bowl

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I can go on.

1. I cherish what we have achieved, and work for the future.

2. You consider America is an angel, China is a baby needing milk and America will feed China after warii.

3. During the civil war and WWII, America had communicated with Chinese Communist Party, America is smart at diplomat.

4. Originate back to the China-Japan war in 1894, China totally failed in the war and China lost navy, ceded Taiwan, paid for 950 million gram silver. Do you think Japan alone defeated China? No, definitely not. That's the West long term goal. At that time, China actually fought against Britain, France, and Japan together. America also provide weapons to Japan, Russia had threat in the North East China. See? This is American real goal, the intention always continued till nowadays. Japan had been an European agent in Asia since 1850's. That's not because Japanese is smart or good at diplomat, the reason is that Japan easily could be controlled.

5. Why China became Communism country, why CCP could win the civil war? Because Japan and USSR work together. Japan attack crazy against incumbent KMT govt, made millions of Chinese lost land, job, business, factory, so those poor people all joined in the CCP, and USSR provide massive of weapons to them.

6. The US didn't support KMT govt during the WWII, what can make us believe they would support China after WWII? You should know America always trade oil, weapons with Japan after 1931, when Japan started war in north east China, this lasted for 10 years, till Japan attack Hawaii in 1941. ( Please note during WWII, Hawaii was not American territory, America just had military base there. )

7. It seems you give all Chinese fate and hopes to the hands of American, you are too native. America is a pragmatic country, they change policy and diplomatic relations very quickly and without any reasons. When they need Iraq, they are good buddy; when they don't need Iraq, they beat them to death. No, Chinese fate must be grabbed on our own hands, this is the only way back to be a great country again.

8. Within 20 years from 1949-1969, China re-build massively heavy industry, such as steel, shipbuilding, airplane building, tank, rocket, atomic, space and basic agriculture system, and light industry such as food, clothes. Not to mention, the railway connecting east to west, north to south, road net connecting all provinces.
You should know in 1860's China had already built up lots of such industry, but all were destroyed by British, and later the Japanese. See the steel factory in China in 1870's.
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9. International and regional diplomat is important for a country, especially for small and middle-sized country, but the most important thing is the country itself. The all your suppose are based on one condition: America would help China after WWII. My buddy, this point is totally wrong, especially for an American born Chinese. America had no responsibility to help China.
 
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Foreigners obviously prefer the KMT.

Guess why? :azn:

Because the KMT are traitors to China, just like Wang Jingwei and Chiang Kai-shek.

CPC has made China strong, and foreigners don't like it.

Mao say Japan invade China good.

揭秘毛泽东谈“我们要感谢日本皇军”经过_历史频道_凤凰网

KMT fought 9 out of 10 biggest engagement against Imperial Army. Even CPC now admit that.

And CPC Hundred Regiment War instigator Marshall Peng Dehuai got screwed by Mao for fighting Japanese.
 
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Mao say Japan invade China good.

揭秘毛泽东谈“我们要感谢日本皇军”经过_历史频道_凤凰网

KMT fought 9 out of 10 biggest engagement against Imperial Army. Even CPC now admit that.

And CPC Hundred Regiment War instigator Marshall Peng Dehuai got screwed by Mao for fighting Japanese.

He didn't thank the Japanese invaders, his original meaning was that the Japanese invasion has awakened the Chinese people, thus it made us stronger.

Also, i kudos to those KMT soldiers who fought bravely against the invaders.

However, most of them didn't belong to the faction of Chiang Kai Shek, and Chiang Kai Shek wanna preserve his own faction and sent those other factions as the cannon fodder.

Chiang and his faction are still scums, end of story.

At beginning KMT of Sun Zhong Shan is good party. KMT liberated China from Qing Dynasty.

Nope, to overthrow the Qing Dynasty was the collaboration between a powerful Qing politician Yuan Shikai and Sun Zhongshan's KMT.
 
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Being selective and blind again? why am I not suprised. Have you even read your own source?
"我说侵略当然不好,但不能单看这坏的一面,另一面日本帮了我们中国的大忙。假如日本不占领大半个中国,中国人民不会觉醒起来。在这一点上,我们要感谢日本皇军。"

Do you even understand chinese at all?
 
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His government is more pragmatic and not delusional as him.



CPC is also using the capitalism's efficiency to boost the economy with the socialist government regulation, since they won't let the capitalism's greed to take over.

Against the US, sure they are using the tactic to economically bundle themselves together with the US, so there is nothing the US could do against them.



According to @Speeder 2, KMT is a divine entity and the truly heaven heir of China.

CPC sucks because it has surpassed the US yet, and KMT would just accomplish this like a piece of cake.

I wonder why he loved to make fun at the Indians, but when himself is even much worse at bragging.

You people srsky need to find some other country to make fun off it is very hard to hold good discussions while constantly being trolled
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Democracy is good for no developing country many Indian leaders discussed the possibility of ruling the country with a iron fist for 2-3 Yeats to prepare it for Democracy but they were sadly sidelined by Pacifists
 
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You people srsky need to find some other country to make fun off it is very hard to hold good discussions while constantly being trolled
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Democracy is good for no developing country many Indian leaders discussed the possibility of ruling the country with a iron fist for 2-3 Yeats to prepare it for Democracy but they were sadly sidelined by Pacifists

Well, the real Chinese members here have no grudge against India except making the backlash when the Indian members started the flame bait first.

We hope that India could find its own path of the development, and stop being a western political stooge.
 
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Well, the real Chinese members here have no grudge against India except making the backlash when the Indian members started the flame bait first.

We hope that India could find its own path of the development, and stop being a western political stooge.

Well you said it yourself majority of members
Also Do explain the last part about being a stooge of west
 
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