What has Pakistan achieved from hostilities with India?

[Chanakyaa]

So in effect if if Sikhs acted on their hate they would go after UPians, Gujrati, Mahratha, Bihari, Bengali etc citizens of India who are circumcised. This should make lot, lots of trouble in big India. Should be interesting to see 2% of India tear apart 13% of India. Pray nobody like me takes over Pakistan or I would have ISI supporting 2% Sikh #hateagainstindians so they can go for the other 13%.

Hate Desnt Need any Classification. Period.
Im told that Shia-Sunni Differences are far far greater than history has witnessed in case of Hindus & Muslims which have co exhisted peacefully in India.

Pakistan was a "One Religion" nation yet we had a split in 1971.

 

[Taxzu]

Both countries have much to benefit from friendly relations but territorial integrity is uncompromisable for India, Pakistan or in fact any country on the planet. India wants friendly or at least neutral relations with Pakistan, it is Pakistan that has to give up on it's dream of bleeding India and annexing Kashmir

What if Kashmiris don't want to live with you. See Indian territorial integrity was compromised on the very day when Pakistan was created. Pakistan was once India too but we got independence and India was broken. So its not new for India and historically too india was never a one country but instead consisted of many states. So let Kashmiris decide for themselves who they want to be with. Its small piece of land and India is gaining nothing at all by holding it. But the benefits of solving Kashmir are extremely high for India.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

ii. Stronger Islamism - leads to point (i) (mainstream parties have adopted Islamism, which is good for Pakistan)

I wouldn't say "stronger islamism". Pakistan is a Parliamentary system, unless a majority can be acquired to form a government the largest elections winner has to create a coalition. And in many cases the party brought on board is an "Islamist" party, I say "Islamist" because well face it they are just for show.

The largest party isn't going to take the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th, but bring in the 5th or 6th which happen to be these "Islamist" parties. Provided they get the Oil/ Hajj Ministries

 

[Lurch Adams]

Really? Have you seen Indian media's retarded reports about Pakistan getting destroyed in 15 days ? Or the spy pigeon? Or TNT carrying camel coming from Pakistan?

You wouldn't be in a good position to comment because Youtube was blocked in Pakistan. Now that you have access to it again compare the amount of coverage given to Pakistan in our media, and vice versa. If you still don't get it then have a good day. Deliberate ignorance cannot be helped.

 

[GumNaam]

What has Pakistan gotten out of it? Two hilarious comedians ruining I mean running india, namely modi and ajit the failed doval.

 

[The Accountant]

I was just going through an article in dawn (http://www.dawn.com/news/1287227/mounting-tensions) and was just thinking, 'What has Pakistan achieved from hostilities with India? ' Pakistan/ISI in the 90s' waged a very successful, low cost proxy war on India. Disgruntled youth from Kashmir were made to cross LOC, were trained, brainwashed, armed and sent to fight Indian forces and interests. But after 9/11 everything changed, add to that India invested heavily to seal the LOC and cross border infiltration was no longer easy. But never the less ISI continued with it's game now by using unemployed youth from Pakistan instead of Kashmiri youth and by using it's assets in Indian Kashmir (separatists)

With changed scenario after 9/11 and with the Indian/world economy getting integrated the narration of freedom struggle by guns is no longer acceptable and is classified as terrorism all across the globe. Never the less ISI still continued and it did harm India and Indian interests to a certain degree but what Pakistanis failed to realize it that it has harmed Pakistan more than it can ever harm India

So, what has Pakistan achieved so far?

(1) Firstly Pakistan's international image got ruined, which meant less tourism, less business, less FDI leading to weaker economy and poverty. Add to that suspicion with which Pakistani passport is looked at all across the west. An example is my boss had to travel to Pakistan for some work but he decided against it as he said it will become difficult for him to get a US or UK visa if his passport gets stamped with a Pakistani Visa

(2) Secondly because of fighting and losing multiple wars with a bigger enemy, the Army became the most important institutions in Pakistan which meant democratic institutions never got nurtured, massive defence budget, interference of Army in politics etc which again leads to instability which means weaker economy

Now if it would have been 90's it would have made sense for ISI to continue their game. But now with nukes in picture (eliminating chances of one side winning a war), does it makes sense for Pakistan to keep playing 'I bleed you' and 'you bleed me' game any longer? Or do they really believe that some terrorist attacks will make India negotiate on it's terms and thus keep on harming themselves more than they can ever harm India? Your thoughts guys

We achieve honour ... We are not like dogs of india like nepal bagladesh and afghanistan .... Look at nepal they cant have PM of thier own choice .. Look at afghan and bagali ... They are barking at your will ... Atleast we are independent nation ...

 

[Imran Khan]

Both are stupiditly blind in hate and mossing many important tasks

 

[HAIDER]

I was just going through an article in dawn (http://www.dawn.com/news/1287227/mounting-tensions) and was just thinking, 'What has Pakistan achieved from hostilities with India? ' Pakistan/ISI in the 90s' waged a very successful, low cost proxy war on India. Disgruntled youth from Kashmir were made to cross LOC, were trained, brainwashed, armed and sent to fight Indian forces and interests. But after 9/11 everything changed, add to that India invested heavily to seal the LOC and cross border infiltration was no longer easy. But never the less ISI continued with it's game now by using unemployed youth from Pakistan instead of Kashmiri youth and by using it's assets in Indian Kashmir (separatists)

With changed scenario after 9/11 and with the Indian/world economy getting integrated the narration of freedom struggle by guns is no longer acceptable and is classified as terrorism all across the globe. Never the less ISI still continued and it did harm India and Indian interests to a certain degree but what Pakistanis failed to realize it that it has harmed Pakistan more than it can ever harm India

So, what has Pakistan achieved so far?

(1) Firstly Pakistan's international image got ruined, which meant less tourism, less business, less FDI leading to weaker economy and poverty. Add to that suspicion with which Pakistani passport is looked at all across the west. An example is my boss had to travel to Pakistan for some work but he decided against it as he said it will become difficult for him to get a US or UK visa if his passport gets stamped with a Pakistani Visa

(2) Secondly because of fighting and losing multiple wars with a bigger enemy, the Army became the most important institutions in Pakistan which meant democratic institutions never got nurtured, massive defence budget, interference of Army in politics etc which again leads to instability which means weaker economy

Now if it would have been 90's it would have made sense for ISI to continue their game. But now with nukes in picture (eliminating chances of one side winning a war), does it makes sense for Pakistan to keep playing 'I bleed you' and 'you bleed me' game any longer? Or do they really believe that some terrorist attacks will make India negotiate on it's terms and thus keep on harming themselves more than they can ever harm India? Your thoughts guys

Atleast Indian provide a good govt level comedy show ......