What Do Europeans Think About Muslim Immigration?

[schoolboy]

Nope, there isn't much Turkish people in Paris or London compared to other nationalities. I don't need to talk about dirty Indians as I don't even take them into account. India is probably the dirtiest country in the world, a country of slaves.

I would love Indians if I was European as they are easily assimilated because they love to be slaves.

I sense a feeling of hurt after reading that news report - well fear not - there are few Turks in London because Turkey is not in the EU (and unlikely to be in the near future).

That news clip I posted for you was from Der Spiegel - a german newspaper - and articulates German views on Turkish migrants. The German experience with Turkish immigrants had a role in Britain's Brexit campaign.

Indians may or may not be smelly or dirty (how would you know - have you lived in India?) but they sure understand how to immigrate well. No shame in integration - those who do not / cannot want to integrate should stay at home. But hey, Indian immigrants don't create news like this:

- Germany Moves To Ban Refugees From Welfare; http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...re-politician-calls-islam-law-limit-influence

- Home to 3 million Turkish immigrants, Germany fears rising tensions; https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ish-immigrants-germany-fears-rising-tensions/

- Nearly half of Turkish immigrants in Germany put Islam above law
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/680828/Germany-Turkey-Islam-above-law-Muslim-immigrants-study

- Terrorism fears over visa-free Turkish immigration
http://www.theweek.co.uk/72225/terrorism-fears-over-visa-free-turkish-immigration

 

[Baybars Han]

I sense a feeling of hurt after reading that news report - well fear not - there are few Turks in London because Turkey is not in the EU (and unlikely to be in the near future).

That news clip I posted for you was from Der Spiegel - a german newspaper - and articulates German views on Turkish migrants. The German experience with Turkish immigrants had a role in Britain's Brexit campaign.

Indians may or may not be smelly or dirty (how would you know - have you lived in India?) but they sure understand how to immigrate well. No shame in integration - those who do not / cannot want to integrate should stay at home. But hey, Indian immigrants don't create news like this:

- Germany Moves To Ban Refugees From Welfare; http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...re-politician-calls-islam-law-limit-influence

- Home to 3 million Turkish immigrants, Germany fears rising tensions; https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ish-immigrants-germany-fears-rising-tensions/

- Nearly half of Turkish immigrants in Germany put Islam above law
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/680828/Germany-Turkey-Islam-above-law-Muslim-immigrants-study

- Terrorism fears over visa-free Turkish immigration
http://www.theweek.co.uk/72225/terrorism-fears-over-visa-free-turkish-immigration

No problem, we will rather remember our language than forget it. We ain't slaves like Indians so it's fine. Our people like to keep their culture, language, identity.

And I could care less what the Germans think about Turks there.

 

[schoolboy]

No problem, we will rather remember our language than forget it. We ain't slaves like Indians so it's fine. Our people like to keep their culture, language, identity.

You're a slave to your insular thinking - and it's precisely that kind of thinking that gets immigrants a bad name.

No right or wrong about your view - but with an attitude like that you can't expect a smooth immigration experience. People who immigrate can cling onto their social and cultural markers only upto a limit - and often do so at great cost to themselves - which is why successful immigrant groups are not so dogmatic.

And I could care less what the Germans think about Turks there.

Easy to pass comments like that sitting in your country of origin. I doubt successful immigrants share that sentiment.

 

[Baybars Han]

You're a slave to your insular thinking - and it's precisely that kind of thinking that gets immigrants a bad name.

No right or wrong about your view - but with an attitude like that you can't expect a smooth immigration experience. People who immigrate can cling onto their social and cultural markers only upto a limit - and often do so at great cost to themselves - which is why successful immigrant groups are not so dogmatic.



Easy to pass comments like that sitting in your country of origin. I doubt successful immigrants share that sentiment.

Not really those people don't starve to death there wherever the Germans think. If Germans don't want them they won't give citizenship simple as. Most will move back to Turkey after there 50s and 60s anyway.

They should learn the countries language, but not forget their mother tongue and culture. Most have a thought of going back anyways.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

Not really those people don't starve to death there wherever the Germans think. If Germans don't want them they won't give citizenship simple as. Most will move back to Turkey after there 50s and 60s anyway.

They should learn the countries language, but not forget their mother tongue and culture. Most have a thought of going back anyways.

Why do you think relations broke down completly? I mean turkey is propably the most disliked country in most of europe. The conservative fraction of EU parliament made a statement recently to end all negotiations with turkey.

There are no free Visa for turkey and Greece, Germany and Italy grant asylum to turkish military staff.

I think what we need is honestly, a clear cut and end this farce. Its better for both sides.

Greetings from Lucca

 

[Jaanbaz]

Why do you think relations broke down completly? I mean turkey is propably the most disliked country in most of europe. The conservative fraction of EU parliament made a statement recently to end all negotiations with turkey.

There are no free Visa for turkey and Greece, Germany and Italy grant asylum to turkish military staff.

I think what we need is honestly, a clear cut and end this farce. Its better for both sides.

Greetings from Lucca

What happened to your other account Markus?

 

[Hold up]

If Europeans don't like Muslim immigration, then why do they fund destabilization of Muslim countries for apparently bringing "democracy"? And then cry about its consequences. Seriously why are they so confusing?

 

[Hold up]

When did Italy fund destabilisation of muslim countries?


Can you please list what funds we actually did and when?

Look...i dont care about muslim countries. They can live in peace. Its not my concern. All i care for is Italy. Thats the opinion of almost all Italians. As long they dont cause a problem for us, we dont interfer. We made great deals with Gadaffi. Great deals with Saddam and Assad.

We just want do business. We dont want immigration. We dont want to deal with all those things. Thats understandable, isnt it?

Italy is part of EU, so maybe that's why it has to bear some part of the burden, since EU was complicit along with UK and US in providing arms and money to rebels in Libya and Syria, apparently to bring democracy (lol). As long as you are part of the EU, you are gonna have to reap the consequences of what they have sown, like creating terrorist groups such as ISIS leading to mass exodus from Syria and Iraq.

 

[Hiptullha]

Wrong. The EU did not participate in Libya nor Syria. Italy voted against any involvement in Libya. It was a thing from USA, UK and France. Are you saying now Italy is part of USA? Or of France? Or part of the UK?

Italy is part of NATO which carried out in airstrikes in Libya and enforced a no-fly zone in the country's airspace.

 

[Hold up]

Do you have any prove that the EU did support rebels in Libya? if so, prove it.

EU categorically pledged support for Libyan rebels in May 2011 and supported them covertly through arms, money until NATO intervention.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-libya-eu-idUSTRE74L0X020110522?mod=related&channelName=worldNews

There are many other links on this. You are part of the EU, so now share the burden of what you have sown. Correct me if I am wrong, Italy contributes money and troops to NATO like other NATO countries. My point is, why interfere if you don't want to bear the consequences.

BTW, Christians are being persecuted a lot by these terrorist groups created by CIA and co. I am sure Italy wants to help them, so would you close immigration for them too? Answer is no. And also why on earth are West Africans coming to Italy? Hmm no answer I suppose.

 

[Hiptullha]

That is not true. NATO was blocked out since Italy and Germany voted against it.

Nope. Quit with the mental gymnastics
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/04/20/libya.war/

Italy will send military advisers to train the rebels in self-defense tactics, Italian Foreign Ministry spokesman Maurizio Massari announced.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-13188951

Italian PM Silvio Berlusconi has approved the use of his country's air force in Nato's Libya mission.

Italy was ready to allow its jets to take "targeted military action", he said in a statement.

Earlier, a Nato air strike badly damaged buildings in Libyan leader Col Muammar Gaddafi's compound in Tripoli.

Nato is enforcing a UN resolution to protect civilians in Libya amid a revolt that began in February, inspired by other uprisings in the Arab world.

Mr Berlusconi announced the decision after a telephone call with US President Barack Obama, and would also call other European leaders to brief them personally, said his statement.

Italy had previously said it would not take part in Nato-led air strikes, citing its 40-year colonial rule of Libya.

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/04/25/146639.html

Earlier on Monday, an air strike by NATO destroyed Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi’s office in his immense Tripoli residence. The bombing came after heavy violence in the besieged city of Misrata, where Colonel Qaddafi’s troops—who had supposedly left the city—continued to fight rebels.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/31/opinion/31iht-eddaalder31.html?_r=2

Importantly, this was a collective effort. France and Britain played an extraordinary part in the operation, leading the pack in providing air and naval assets and striking over 40 percent of all targets. Italy, too, made an outstanding contribution. Not only was it the fourth largest contributor to the strike mission, it was an indispensable host to hundreds of aircraft at seven airbases.

 

[Hold up]

The majority of Italians want immigration down to zero. We soon have election and far right Lega Nord is leading. The other parties are in panic mode. Why you think they realize now all those hard anti immigration things that would have been seen as facist just months ago?

Okay then pray for your far right to win. Maybe they would find inspiration from Trump lol. I can't fathom though how Italy the citadel of Catholicism wouldn't want to help its Christian brethren in Syria who have genuinely suffered a lot. I find it weird how Christian leaders of Europe and US supported rebels against Assad who did so much for Syrian Christians. Then again you never know, given how NATO went boom boom on Orthodox Serbians in 1999 lol.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

Okay then pray for your far right to win. Maybe they would find inspiration from Trump lol. I can't fathom though how Italy the citadel of Catholicism wouldn't want to help its Christian brethren in Syria who have genuinely suffered a lot. I find it weird how Christian leaders of Europe and US supported rebels against Assad who did so much for Syrian Christians. Then again you never know, given how NATO went boom boom on Orthodox Serbians in 1999 lol.

Syrians are not our brothers. We are not arabic.

We do actually find inspiration from Trump. Next Geert Wilders will win in Netherlands and i hope Marine lePen in France. Evrything looks good.

Italy can help, but we help at their home. No need to bring evryone here.

If India wants to help you are free to do so my friend.

Italy doesnt want to. And that feeling is strong enough, that entire Rome was plastered with anti Pople posters a few days ago. The pope had to row back after heavy criticism for his "pro refugee" talk. Since he is pretty isolated in the Vatican and most cardinals oppose him he stays silent now regarding that issue.

 

[Hold up]

Syrians are not our brothers. We are not arabic.

We do actually find inspiration from Trump. Next Geert Wilders will win in Netherlands and i hope Marine lePen in France. Evrything looks good.

Italy can help, but we help at their home. No need to bring evryone here.

If India wants to help you are free to do so my friend.

Italy doesnt want to. And that feeling is strong enough, that entire Rome was plastered with anti Pople posters a few days ago. The pope had to row back after heavy criticism for his "pro refugee" talk. Since he is pretty isolated in the Vatican and most cardinals oppose him he stays silent now regarding that issue.

You seem like the Stormfront type

Yeah, everything in Europe seems to be swinging to the far right these days..guess the pot's now brimming over.

As for India helping Syria, LOL. I am an Indian Muslim so I don't reflect the majority view of my country.

But like I said earlier, as long as Italy's part of the EU, it has to kowtow to it. There's no escaping from the EU- like sharing the refugee burden with other EU countries. Unless your Lega Nord whatever party is planning something on the lines of Brexit lol

 

[ValerioAurelius]

You seem like the Stormfront type

Yeah, everything in Europe seems to be swinging to the far right these days..guess the pot's now brimming over.

As for India helping Syria, LOL. I am an Indian Muslim so I don't reflect the majority view of my country.

But like I said earlier, as long as Italy's part of the EU, it has to kowtow to it. There's no escaping from the EU- like sharing the refugee burden with other EU countries. Unless your Lega Nord whatever party is planning something on the lines of Brexit lol

That is not necessary my friend.

The EU already decided that no migration from africa is allowed anymore. All boats are brought back to northern africa. They want build up camps there.

We live in hard times and human rights is a luxury we cant afford anymore. That counts for you as well.

I think we can agree that we live in times where evryone has to look for themself.