What are the most lactose tolerant areas of the world (Arabia, Europe and Pakistan leading)

[Hack-Hook]

If you read the thread more carefully you would have saw links to articles that answere your question in detail.

Who was the first Lactose intolerant human?

Its a recent phenonmenon this.

A Fassad

A Fitna



Where?

 

[nang2]

Just put a bowl of milk in front of a cat and you'll see what will happen.

Cat eats fish, too, and loves it. But it is also terrified by water. Animals eat a lot of different food if it is available but it doesn't mean it is all their natural food. Have you seen a cat sucking on a cow's nipple?

 

[El Sidd]

If you read the thread more carefully you would have saw links to articles that answere your question in detail.

I watched a documentary few years ago.

I never thought it would lead to armageddon

 

[Hack-Hook]

Do y

Cat eats fish, too, and loves it. But it is also terrified by water. Animals eat a lot of different food if it is available but it doesn't mean it is all their natural food. Have you seen a cat sucking on a cow's nipple?

Do you see any cow that allow it ?

 

[nang2]

Do y

Do you see any cow that allow it ?

LOL, this is so funny.

 

[Cybernetics]

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https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/infographic-day-where-people-can-digest-milk

Interesting.

Poor Chinese friends. Will never enjoy the thrill of high-quality dairy products such as laban, cheeses, yoghurts etc.

Now it makes sense why KSA has the largest dairy farms in the region.

I've seen that map before and find it strange. Not sure if its because of my particular surroundings or something else but I was consuming milk and milk products since birth in China.

Cheese is a relatively new concept (and gaining some traction) in China but other milk products are not. Growing up I had milk delivered to my house by a milkman, drank yogurt from the store, occasionally used butter on my meals, ate milk based cakes/creams

Milk products from Mengniu/蒙牛

The map shows lactose intolerance in the Beijing area but Beijing is famous for its "Old town Beijing yogurt".

Here's a tub of yak yogurt.

There's a dish from Canton called "stir fried milk"

Bubble tea wouldn't be as popular in East Asia if people were lactose intolerant.

Overall Chinese would likely consume less milk products than European nations but I wouldn't say people are lactose intolerant. Milk requires cows and cows are hard to raise in most parts of China in large numbers relative to the population due to resource constraints. Some parts of China like Inner Mongolia has high per capita milk production due to its environment. People in China consume milk just not in the numbers like some nations.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

cant remember dairy products being any different to what we get worldwide but the fruit juices in the arab countries are so good compared to what you get in the rest of the world.

someone told me the governments havent got any sugar tax laws so the producers make them very delicious and luxurious i.e full of sugar. but damn their juices are good.

The best fruit juices in the Arab world (Arabia in particular) are organic juices made from organic/local pomegranate, orange, citrus, cherry, apple, mango, grape, strawberries, guava, banana (all grow locally in KSA) etc. fruits.

There is great diversity on this front as alcohol is not consumed.

We also often add pistachios, almonds, astha and various creams etc.

http://www.kikucorner.com/2015/06/25/saudi-fruit-juice/

Most important thing.

Portions are big and its very cheap.

Since we not longer consume alcohol (due to religion), in particular wine, we have our fruit juices, tea, coffee, milk, water, laban etc, lol. Although our ancestors liked a drink or two, lol.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

This is what we drink as laban.. and prefer to go to cardiac hospital in early years.. lolll

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Modern-day dairy firms are copying modern preparation methods (in order for their products to last longer) which obviously is not the same as the "real deal" and why elders mostly complain about this but for us youth that have not really known anything else since birth, we do not complain and honestly having lived in a few European countries and currently being in one too (Spain), dairy products in KSA are far superior in general taste and quality wise. Only country where I drank milk/dairy products that were as good or sometimes even better were in Denmark and that country is famous for their dairy products in all of Europe.

BTW, Arab and Pakistani tastes are probably a bit different too. We don't add cream (usually) to those products or Arabic coffee for instance. It's mostly used for deserts, cakes, ice creams.

Also too much cream is not very healthy due to it being fatty and since there is a health mania among the youth in KSA of late, people are more conscious in this regard which I find as a good thing.

But yes, cream is tasty even for a person like me that does not have a particular sweet teeth.

Dont know bout you guys but this is what a proper lassi looks like;

Youghurt+milk or sometimes a bit of water with it. With alot of white butter on top!!

 

[Saif al-Arab]

I've seen that map before and find it strange. Not sure if its because of my particular surroundings or something else but I was consuming milk and milk products since birth in China.

Cheese is a relatively new concept (and gaining some traction) in China but other milk products are not. Growing up I had milk delivered to my house by a milkman, drank yogurt from the store, occasionally used butter on my meals, ate milk based cakes/creams

Milk products from Mengniu/蒙牛
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The map shows lactose intolerance in the Beijing area but Beijing is famous for its "Old town Beijing yogurt".
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Here's a tub of yak yogurt.
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There's a dish from Canton called "stir fried milk"
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Bubble tea wouldn't be as popular in East Asia if people were lactose intolerant.
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Overall Chinese would likely consume less milk products than European nations but I wouldn't say people are lactose intolerant. Milk requires cows and cows are hard to raise in most parts of China in large numbers relative to the population due to resource constraints. Some parts of China like Inner Mongolia has high per capita milk production due to its environment. People in China consume milk just not in the numbers like some nations.

My brother told me that drinking wine is also a relatively new thing in China. Is this correct? For example the earliest evidence of wine growing dates back to the Neolithic period in the Arab world/Western Asia. Our ancestors used to drink mostly wine pre-Islam or anise drinks such as Arak which is still consumed by Christian Arabs in mainly Sham but not only.

What did Chinese drink of alcohol traditionally? Beer (originates in Iraq) mostly?

Dont know bout you guys but this is what a proper lassi looks like;

Youghurt+milk or sometimes a bit of water with it. With alot of white butter on top!!

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Lassi is not consumed in Arabia/Middle East but it looks similar to how old-fashioned Laban is done minus the additions as per the Wikipedia page about lassi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lassi

Same family and they taste similar. Turks have Aryan as well if I am not wrong. Central Asians use kefir. There are many regional variants and 100's of recipes to make it.

I tried the Iranian Doogh in UAE once and it was similar to Laban.

If you want to see what real milk look like you must try buffalo milk . here in khuzestan province in southern area of the province some arab tribe raise bufallo (because of high moisture in the area they live, well at least it used to be so) and after tasting that milk the rest of the milks just taste like water .

Since you live in Arabistan ( ) have you tasted laban? How do you say it compares with doogh? To me it is very similar.

Are you Iranian Arab, Lur or Persian (most genuine Persians live in Southern Iran) if I may ask?

Most people in Arabia (Eastern Arabia but not only) who have ancestral ties to Iran next door are from Southern Iran (Iranian Arabs, Lurs, Southern Persians and Baloch) and there is much similarity. I am curious, knowing Iraqi and Arabian cuisine very well, how Southern Iranian cuisine is or more precisely the cuisine of Khuzestan.

I imagine a lot of seafood (love it) as well, at least among the Iranian Arabs.

 

[PakSword]

Dont know bout you guys but this is what a proper lassi looks like;

Youghurt+milk or sometimes a bit of water with it. With alot of white butter on top!!

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I have tried it quite a bit of times in village, but it becomes extremely heavy.. A farmer who ploughs fields all day long might have it, but I am not able to eat the entire day whenever I have this lassi..

I like the simple lassi with cream on top..

With alot of white butter on top!!

By the way, this white butter is very tasty.. It can only be extracted from buffalo milk.. yellow butter comes from cow's milk.

 

[Hamza913]

Cold laban drink with mint in the summer while reading a good book.





Everything in moderation.

Asalamu Alaikum

I've never really liked plain yogurt drinks like laban to be honest, they lack flavour.

Flavoured lassi is excellent though (especially Mango lassi).

You knew there are theories that these intolerance toward food and so is the result of intermarriage between modern human and Neanderthal human . it says the gene that produce these allergic reaction alongside some of the gen that enhance our immune systems come from Neanderthals .
If I'm not wrong there was a thread about human migration out of Africa and in it there was maps that showed percentage of those Neanderthals genes in humans around the world . it would be interesting to see if there is some correlations between those maps and these lactose deficiency maps.

There might be, I know English people apparently have pretty high levels of Neanderthal DNA and as the graph clearly shows, they have a very high toleration of lactose.

 

[Hack-Hook]

I've seen that map before and find it strange. Not sure if its because of my particular surroundings or something else but I was consuming milk and milk products since birth in China.

Cheese is a relatively new concept (and gaining some traction) in China but other milk products are not. Growing up I had milk delivered to my house by a milkman, drank yogurt from the store, occasionally used butter on my meals, ate milk based cakes/creams

Milk products from Mengniu/蒙牛
View attachment 485451

The map shows lactose intolerance in the Beijing area but Beijing is famous for its "Old town Beijing yogurt".
View attachment 485446

Here's a tub of yak yogurt.
View attachment 485448

There's a dish from Canton called "stir fried milk"
View attachment 485447

Bubble tea wouldn't be as popular in East Asia if people were lactose intolerant.
View attachment 485452

Overall Chinese would likely consume less milk products than European nations but I wouldn't say people are lactose intolerant. Milk requires cows and cows are hard to raise in most parts of China in large numbers relative to the population due to resource constraints. Some parts of China like Inner Mongolia has high per capita milk production due to its environment. People in China consume milk just not in the numbers like some nations.

Yoghurt and milk products are alternatives for lactose intolerance . many of people who has lactose intolerance can tolerate milk if its mixed with cacao or other fruits.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Asalamu Alaikum

I've never really liked plain yogurt drinks like laban to be honest, they lack flavour.

Flavoured lassi is excellent though (especially Mango lassi).

The South Asian Lassi drink is not comparable to Laban, Doogh or Aryan as additional ingredients are used when making Lassi.

Lassi equivalents exists in the Arab world but they are not called Laban. Nowadays many modern fusions have emerged like elsewhere in the world.

However cold Laban with mint is great stuff. Add some high quality dates and for example almonds and you have a great snack that will give you a lot of energy.

Asalamu Alaikum

I've never really liked plain yogurt drinks like laban to be honest, they lack flavour.

Flavoured lassi is excellent though (especially Mango lassi).



There might be, I know English people apparently have pretty high levels of Neanderthal DNA and as the graph clearly shows, they have a very high toleration of lactose.

Neanderthals were lactose intolerant and not lactose tolerant bro. See my previous post and links. I doubt that there is a connection.

 

[Hack-Hook]

The best fruit juices in the Arab world (Arabia in particular) are organic juices made from organic/local pomegranate, orange, citrus, cherry, apple, mango, grape, strawberries, guava, banana (all grow locally in KSA) etc. fruits.

There is great diversity on this front as alcohol is not consumed.

We also often add pistachios, almonds, astha and various creams etc.

http://www.kikucorner.com/2015/06/25/saudi-fruit-juice/

Most important thing.

Portions are big and its very cheap.

Since we not longer consume alcohol (due to religion), in particular wine, we have our fruit juices, tea, coffee, milk, water, laban etc, lol. Although our ancestors liked a drink or two, lol.

I must add to that, the fruit juice you buy from markets can never compete with the ones you make yourself at home. I never trust what they sell on street or in supermarkets.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

I must add to that, the fruit juice you buy from markets can never compete with the ones you make yourself at home. I never trust what they sell on street or in supermarkets.

Indeed. I use a mixer to use our own products back home. I venture out on some of the farms that my family owns and I just pick the fruits directly from the tree. I pour boiling water on the skin of the citrus for example and I sometimes use the skin in the mixer too to enhance the flavor. It is also healthy. When I have a cold I use many old techniques told to me by elders which also often work.

Although some firms make very good organic juices of a good quality and taste while others use too much sugar which I do not like.

AlMarai makes a good pomegranate juice but certain other juices are not as good.

Btw some street sellers make good food and juices and I always support the good ones.