WELCOME TO NATO: Biden announces he'll notify Congress of his intent to designate Qatar a "major non-NATO ally."

[LeGenD]

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@retaxis

 

[Tshering22]

Just gas supply for Germany and Europe if Russia cuts off supply when the Ukraine invasion happens.

Good luck to them getting Qatari gas out through Syria where Russia and Assad control important passages. There is an alternative through Iran (see the pic below), and Iran has in principle, agreed for this. But would the West give Iran what it wants in exchange? Clearly it is not just for the transit revenues here; they want more.

Whether they choose to go through Iran or through the rest of the Gulf area, Syria is their choke point. The time to arrange the pipelines would be significantly more than Putin asking Gazprom to shut the tap, if European armies so much as lobbed a single mortar shell at Russian troops.

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OT: Qatar's new status seems more like a snub to UAE & Saudi.

 

[CrazyZ]

Good luck to them getting Qatari gas out through Syria where Russia and Assad control important passages. There is an alternative through Iran (see the pic below), and Iran has in principle, agreed for this. But would the West give Iran what it wants in exchange? Clearly it is not just for the transit revenues here; they want more.

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Whether they choose to go through Iran or through the rest of the Gulf area, Syria is their choke point. The time to arrange the pipelines would be significantly more than Putin asking Gazprom to shut the tap, if European armies so much as lobbed a single mortar shell at Russian troops.

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OT: Qatar's new status seems more like a snub to UAE & Saudi.

Qatar has massive LNG capacity. This is what USA wants on side.....not pipelines.

 

[Tshering22]

Qatar has massive LNG capacity. This is what USA wants on side.....not pipelines.

Agreed.

But how do you plan to get the gas to a Europe in peak winters when they are in the middle of a military conflict with the only country that supplies them the cheapest gas logistically possible?

Answer: Pipelines.

Even if temporary gas tanker ships are provided, how many of them do you think would make it to European ports in the middle of a hypothetical European-Russian war?

 

[PakFactor]

Been there done that ---
It wasn't worth shit. You would get more joy hitting up a brothel in Nevada and screwing a brunette.

 

[Deltadart]

Yeah and no.. I am desi arab roots in qatar we came post partition my loyality is mostly to qatar i hold 3 citizenship including a zayeed.. pervaz Musharaf he had my support he ultimately disappointed being a zayeed himself.. ppl don't notice us but we are everywhere

Fascinating, please do elbatote more on your particular community in Qatar.

 

[CrazyZ]

Agreed.

But how do you plan to get the gas to a Europe in peak winters when they are in the middle of a military conflict with the only country that supplies them the cheapest gas logistically possible?

Answer: Pipelines.

Even if temporary gas tanker ships are provided, how many of them do you think would make it to European ports in the middle of a hypothetical European-Russian war?

European countries lack any independent geopolitical strategy. If they did.....then they would have diversified their gas supplies with more pipelines to MENA.

If war breaks out......why do you assume that Russia's energy supplies will not be impacted as well? NATO's deep strike capability dwarfs anything the Russians have ever experienced before.

 

[Bengal71]

Good luck to them getting Qatari gas out through Syria where Russia and Assad control important passages. There is an alternative through Iran (see the pic below), and Iran has in principle, agreed for this. But would the West give Iran what it wants in exchange? Clearly it is not just for the transit revenues here; they want more.

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Whether they choose to go through Iran or through the rest of the Gulf area, Syria is their choke point. The time to arrange the pipelines would be significantly more than Putin asking Gazprom to shut the tap, if European armies so much as lobbed a single mortar shell at Russian troops.

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OT: Qatar's new status seems more like a snub to UAE & Saudi.

It will probably be via gas tanker, sea route.

 

[Tshering22]

European countries lack any independent geopolitical strategy. If they did.....then they would have diversified their gas supplies with more pipelines to MENA.

If war breaks out......why do you assume that Russia's energy supplies will not be impacted as well? NATO's deep strike capability dwarfs anything the Russians have ever experienced before.

Because Russia will simply be cutting their supplies. Europe is the biggest O&G client on the Western front. If the tap shuts then the prices skyrocket overnight world over. If Russia is harmed, then the world will suffer as well.

Here is a rough map of their exports in 2020:

The only tap that won't close would be the one to China, South Korea & if Japan chooses, them.

Do you think that the US jets will strike these tankers heading off to China? It's WW3 then.