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We are a nuclear power, and know how to defend ourselves: Sartaj Aziz

Even US bmd is far from 100% and chinese and russians are not sleeping...
As a general rule its far easier to develope aggressors than defenders...
There is no 100 % accurate sam even against fighter jets who are mostly sub sonic and supersonic only for a short period...

People have very little idea what a bmd involves...
Basically u r trying to hit a bullet with a bullet...
But that happens frequently in bollywood any way...so i will leave it at that....
 
Try one more time.. Your army can't fight a full fledged war against India, so you keep sending cowards across the border. You can't even protect a school in your great nation. What a nation!

Says the Indian media. Can't protect a school? Well, who can. You couldn't even protect your precious Bombay and talk about school in Pakistan. It is not easy to protect and defend against unpredictable organized attack from Indian-funded TTP allegedly. Pakistan is human being nation, not God. That being said, this is not something to be pride of considering one is funding money to group to kill innocent civilians while others put their lives at stake to protect the innocent civilians.

In some missions they failed, but saved a lot in most cases which attempted bomb-blasts were prevented successfully.

Despite of being tiny nation, its has done well so far considering the size of India and its manpower.
 
it does look like Sartaz Aziz wants to take over the clowning and foaming job, now that zaid hamid is gone
 
Mr. Sartaj Aziz by your statement don't think that India is not nuclear power. India also want war only and nuclear war only, so chill. You politician alwasy talking about nuclear nuclear, which seems like laughing stuff in owrld community. It seems like Bomb in child hand.

Well, whatever he says seems to be working.....if you call them a "child", they are easily keeping a big adult "VERY" far away from adventures and fireworks!!!

Instead of acting like buffoons, people should realize the fate of 1.5 billion people. Everyone learns the tough realities of life. Problem is, many millions will be gone if the lessons are learned the hard way in Indo-Pak's scenario. Macho man only looks good in the Wrestling Ring. Not everywhere on the street.....similarly, immaturity only looks good on comedy shows. When you have 1.5 billion poor people, the sad reality is to bring their life up to a better environment. Not give them a more dangerous environment to live in!!
 
no Sartaz Aziz is plain wrong. If Pakistan knew how to defend itself it won't be sheltering and supporting terrorists. Aren't Pakistani people disgusted with their military even after the embarassments of 1971 surrender, Kargil defeat, Osama raid, repeated coups, Kasab exposure of ISI, Md.Naved capture, exposure of A.Q.Khan smuggling ring, Dawood Ibrahim passports/phone bill, Washington triggered drone bombs...

pathetic
 
So you are a senior member so I would love to know your extinction of india yes I understand that Pakistan will be victim of its own creation by MAD but will you tell me how it will annihilate India yes we will have some wounds if our ballistic defence system doesn't work for sometime but still I will love to know it.
I am all ears
BMD cannot work in Pakistan india scenario due to very short response times required. The longest Pakistani missile takes less than 15-20 min to reach the farthest point in india. While most targets (large cities in india) are at much shorter distances and flight times fall in 3-8 mins. There isn't much any BMD can do. BMD can only work between Russia and USA due to very large distances and enough time for response but still more modern missiles are much more difficult to target by BMD.
 
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There are hundred possible solutions for a bmd...
But ....
Than....

Half of country shitting on open and accounting for half the malnourished childern in the world...
And they are building a bmd that probably will be neutralized in lets say ... 30 seconds tops???
A country which frequently fares in frafile lists of country and also is regarded as a beggar country shouldn't be talking about other countries.
A/c to survey India is the second country in the world behind China in poverty eradication and according to the same report Pakistan is the only country which is doing opposite what the world is doing I.e, they are increasing the poverty.
So take care of your country before criticising others.

To @PAKISTANFOREVER
Pakistan's
you don't have any idea what you are talking.
Firstly you think that you have very good knowledge of BMD but you don't know sh1t.
Now coming to BMD India has GSAT series satellites which are coupled with ELINT package which will information and real time reconnaissance and hold on your country.
The GSAT series is very sensitive satellite series which will give information of signature of high sensitive activities or signature of ballistic missiles if launched from 6000 km way so just as even if you move your BM missiles from one place to another INDIAN satellites give that information to our armed forces let alone firing the BM.
Now that's why our BMD is based on our GSAT series which is highly reliable and which has two defence strategy.
AAD+PDV which will make sure that no missiles can get 3rd chance to escape our defence even if some missiles missed our 1st defence.
Do you know AMERICA's THAAD missile defense system.
If you don't know than please spare me.
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Actually you don't know indias nuclear doctrine.
After the first missile is nullified you will be met with nuclear weapons from 3 dimension and because you are a small country you will get annihilated.

And let me tell you INDIA's capability to produce weapons.

India is making fast breeder reactor and after it is procured it is said that 700 nuclear weapons can be made annually.
Pakistan doesn't have the capability to more than 20 kiloton.

In 1999 David Albright made it clear that India has enough stocks to make more than 700 nuclear weapons.
Now if you Arent a brain damaged fool
Pakistan's Heavy water reactor capacity to produce plutonium == 275 Mwth
India's Heavy water reactor capacity potentially to produce plutonium== 8233 Mwth
Total plutonium India has outside safeguards including fuel grade and weapons grade === 16000 Kgs
Total plutonium Pakistan has outside safeguards in weapons grade form == 125 kg to 150 kgs


Total number of bombs Pakistan can produce per year == 9 nuclear bombs
Total number of bombs India can produce per year ==== 156 bombs

In case you are brain damaged 156 bombs > 9 bombs

In here I am not including India's fast breeder reactor which only one country in Asia operate.
Pakistan's reprocessing capacity is in the gutters and most important you are running out of Uranium ore before long you will be operating on depleted tails while India has enough uranium to last 60 years of weapons program and our Three stage program can last for 500 years .


And remind you India started to make weapons 26 years before you now if you want to do suicide then you are welcome.
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Unless india has become more advanced than America in the last 3 months like some indian posters claim than you'll know that no BMD system is reliable especially against ballistic missiles:
$40-billion missile defense system proves unreliable - LA Times

If the American BMD is doubtful than the indian BMD will obviously have more problems. The minute indian BMD can nullify Pakistan's nuclear weapons, india would launch a massive conventional attack on Pakistan. Pakistan not having a 2nd, 3rd strike capability? or Thermonuclear weapons? A day before Pakistan tested it's nuclear weapons in 1998 many high ranking indian scientists, politicians and so-called experts claimed that Pakistan had 0% nuclear weapons capability. They got a shock of their lives a day later. So any member of the indian race doubting Pakistan's nuclear weapons capability should be taken with a pinch of salt.
Lot of people think that Pakistan's nuclear weapons program has stagnated and india is developing it's arsenal more faster than China, Russia and USA:
Pakistan's Fourth Reactor at Khushab Now Appears Operational | Institute for Science and International Security

From the above article it can be seen that Pakistan's nuclear program only really picked up after 2000.
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Its so long of a post that i dont have tine to read it fully.... but one word caught my eye THAAD.. the missile defence anericans are developing ..

If you know what thaad stands for...
Terminal high altitude area defence....designed to protect forward troops from short range missiles....

Its not to protect cities from nuclear assault and non of american defences are currently deployed to protect washington or newyork....

But i guess u have v . thaad

Vedic terminal high alt area defence...which can protect cities ...

100% accurately...
A claim americans never made
 
The other issues are that americans use x band radar for thaad and similar programmes...
India does not have an x band radar...

There is a huge criticism of x band radar it self...

Only operational units are deployed to guam and hawaii..not washington or newyork..
Where sea born x band radar is left to rot...according to most critics....

But again they never tried item song as part of their experiments....the missing link i think...
 
As expected from you.
The real second strike capability is from water.
Your first nuke missile which will be targeted by BMD will go in vain and then you will be asking for nuclear missiles from 3 dimensional which in your case doesn't exist your area being small will get covered by 3 way striking and because of absence of any BMD your country is an open fileld.
And yes just seeing your videos and pics let's us know about your capabilitie.
And if you are so much confident about your capabilities then please share with us your valuable lecture about Pakistani abilities.


Actually let me tell you the real capabilities or hidden capabilities which an advanced country has is not on land but on space. Many people here tend to forget or don't pay attention when they see list of top 10 militaries of the world and dilute the list by making their own list.
The top 5 or 4 nations which are on the list of top ten militaries have a world class space capabilities which range from real time reconnaisance to tracking sensitive activities also from BMD to jamming the whole communication system of a country.

Now this is what we call a top military countries which have dual capabilities offensive and defensive.

As an RUSSIAN defence analyst said
'The real WAR in the future will not be won by weapons but by satellites'.

The thing with Indians is that they think they know every thing specially about Pakistan :D

Mister there will be plenty surprises for India in any future war and don't try to judge someone who you don't know.

you lost kargil... don't try to pull facts...

Have you ever visited Kashmir? Were you there in Kargil war areas?
 
The opening post remarked MODI THINKS AND BEHAVES AS IF INDIA IS A REGIONAL SUPER POWER..

He is right India is a regional superpower based on GDP forex reserves growth rates and military power geographic size and population education resources natural and developed. ..

Thus he behaves like a Man with running a nation that has the 7th largest GDP in the world t
the 8th largest bank account. forex reserves
4th biggest military
nuclear WEAPONS

Fastest growing economy on the world in the G20

its normal behaviour
 
Every Pakistani know that India is Nuclear power but what Indians don't understand that if India attached and certain threshold is crossed then Pakistan can assure MAD which will distroy both not just Pakistan.

So what is the point really? India has better chance of surviving nuclear MAD. It has the greater technological, social and economic base to revive compared to Pakistan.So MAD may turn out to be assisted suicide for Pakistan.
 
So what is the point really? India has better chance of surviving nuclear MAD. It has the greater technological, social and economic base to revive compared to Pakistan.So MAD may turn out to be assisted suicide for Pakistan.

All possibilities have been considered by Pakistan before creating their nuclear war capability and doctrine. The remaining ones will pray for death after MAD (God forbid).
 
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