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‘Wars of religion will start in Europe’ – Turkish FM

The US, China, Japan, Germany, Spain, Russia, Turkey, Poland, Brazil, they all have a vision for their future. They have goals they want to achieve. Italy and the Netherlands don't have goals. Two countries dominated by small business minded populace, only interested in day to day profits. The Dutch will worry more about how much their beer cost today than what their country and Europe will meet up the the world challenges of tomorrow. Italy is not even worth mentioning because the government it is not worth any serious consideration. It's a shame a country could be run that way. Any country.

In general however Europeans are not ready to take responsability to become a superpower. They will only sit there and complain about what the Americans do, but they don't have an alternative. The EU as a block is powerful and usually expresses good ideals. Concern for environment, social justice, education, progress. But the populace don't want any of that. Each country thinks they will be better off by itself. Holland is no exception. They think they are the best anyway, and they can take on to the whole world all by themselves. The Hutus and the Tutsis thought the same. The real winner of the Europeans stupid disputes? Americans, Chinese, Russians. They will be the powers of the future. The losers? Europeans. Nobody will be able to look after their interests any more.

Holland was doomed anyway, by demografic implosion, cultural stagnation, natural elements. The sea, sooner or later, will claim that land. Probably too late for the sake of all of us.

The Dutch think Euroskepticism is cool. It is fashionable right now. Let's go back to the (whatever name their insignificant currency was called). We are better off on our own. They say this with a little grince on their ugly faces, and their friends laugh around them. It's Dutch humor. The type that says :"I'm realistic, I'm practical, I don't fall for intellectual crap."

Even the least sophisticated American farmer is much more educated than the average Dutch. So any direction their government would want to take would not have the support of their own people. For God's sake the Dutch are still worshipping a royal family! It's a country that should be shamed for its past, but they are afraid of the future. So the best they can do is hold on their small currency and hope it gets them more beer as a unified currency would.

The USA has given Europe everything it has today. It has already rescued Europe (with the help of the Soviets) from their little querrels and conflictual tendencies. Because of EU and NATO Europeans have not been fighting each other for 60 years. But this is a small anomany in thousands of history of divisions. You want the real face of Europe? You want to know how the Dutch really are? Look at Yugoslavia in the 90s. Look at Lebanon. Look at South Africa before the 1990s. Not only are they the mirror of Europeans true nature, but those are all situations provoked by Europeans.

The Dutch would love to have South Africa again. They can't, but their diamond mining companies are still operative and responsible for some of the worst human right abuses in history. Then the Dutch will tell you we believe in human right. Oh really? Look at your fu**ing mines. Why is Amsterdam the center of European diamond trade? The Dutch think their little slave trades will keep them wealthy for ever, just like Norwegians rely on fishing and oil to maintain their standards. You could argue that some arabs are doing the same. But if you look at the Emirates and Dubai, you know they are using oil to jump into the future. Not live in the past.

Europeans are within their rights to ban immigration from Muslim states. China, Japan and South Korea do not allow immigration. Neither does Saudi Arabia or any of the rich GCC states.
 
After the referandum,all will be forgotten and ties with Europe will be back to normal again.
How?
Well the AKP is good at sucking up.
 
It won't be wrong since we do not have the military might to protect the rights of other Muslims in those countries. All things in this global village are connected. You sound like we are all so Islamic. I would accept your argument if Muslim states followed Islamic principles in every sphere of life but they don't. So suddenly why are you so Islamic when we're talking about demolishing churches while they are literally celebrating demolition of mosques?

First select your position where are you standing? If you are demolishing based on your ego then don't use Islam in it or if you are doing because of Islam then Islam didn't permit it. Choice is yours follow your path.
 
Le Pen is going win French elections.

This is another huge blow to the left liberal closed minded approach to religion & terrorism that have impacted western countries like never before.

Trump, Putin, Modi and Le Pen are not winning elections in vaccum. China for all their friendship with Pakistan, deals with Islamic terrorism in more absolute & inhumane terms than any other country on the planet.

The wars of religion has been going on for more than a decade now.
 
Personally and based on my heart emotions, i am with Turkey in this case. EU has to learn how to respect.
And as far as i know Turkey has the second fire power between NATO countries however Turkey may leave EU before receiving S-400 triumph. This can help them to have their independence
Turkey was never part of EU, it was not allowed by Europeans; French Sarkozy said blatantly that there was no way to accept a nation with 72 million Muslims to be part of the EU, German chancellor Merkl, echoed his thoughts by saying that it was not even on the agenda of the EU to accept Turkey and that was out of question..
 
Turkey was never part of EU, it was not allowed by Europeans; French Sarkozy said blatantly that there was no way to accept a nation with 72 million Muslims to be part of the EU, German chancellor Merkl, echoed his thoughts by saying that it was not even on the agenda of the EU to accept Turkey and that was out of question..

and sarkozy was right. Turkey in EU would be horror for european people.
 
In what sense?
And why it is not horror in NATO then?

Its a horror in NATO as well. And this is openly adressed right now through all political parties.

Lets face reality. Turkey is not one of us. Never was and never will be. Its oriental. It has not our culture. It doesnt share our history and values. The only thing we shared in past is conflict. There is not one positive episode in history between our people.

The recent meltdown of the turkish regime is a perfect example for that.

You honestly believe we could build trust on turkey? Trust that would hold stand under conflict? We have not enough trust in turkey to depend the security of our troops on them. There are serious opinions in EU that turkey might use european military staff stationed in turkey as hostages.

Beside that it would create a border with Syria, Iraq and Iran. Something that is definitly not in the interest of Europe.

The distrust is that high that not even visa free travel is granted.
 
First select your position where are you standing? If you are demolishing based on your ego then don't use Islam in it or if you are doing because of Islam then Islam didn't permit it. Choice is yours follow your path.

First make up your mind if you are going to follow Islam in other areas of life too. If you are not ready to do that don't refer to Islam for your dubious intention.
 
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Europe is crumbling, becoming decadent, racist, full of itself and continues its colonialist mentality.

We are the counterbalance, we have always been the counterbalance and will always be the counterbalance. Turkey is the last castle in Middle East, if we fall they will have succeeded their mission = subjugating the Middle East.

Not so easy, not so fast
 
Europe is crumbling, becoming decadent, racist, full of itself and continues its colonialist mentality.

We are the counterbalance, we have always been the counterbalance and will always be the counterbalance. Turkey is the last castle in Middle East, if we fall they will have succeeded their mission = subjugating the Middle East.

Not so easy, not so fast

What about your colonialist menatlity? And Erdos neo ottoman dreams. You currently occupy iraqi territery against iraqi will.
 

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